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07-26-2004, 01:13 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>With yesterdays Hall of fame induction, I couldn't help but wonder as I do from time to time, why Barney Dryfuss is not in the HOF. His contibutions to the game are numerous. One of the great owners of the early century. Made the challenge to the Boston owner to have a World Series. Built the first all steele ballpark in the NL, Which by the way, all his friends thought he was crazy for spending all that $ on building it. He had the vision that he could fill it with paying customers, and he did. He never sold a player as was customary in that day. He felt players were not property. He invested player's $ for them and guaranteed they would not lose $. He also gave his share of $ from the First World Series to his players. The only time in history the losing players got more than the winners. From all accounts the man was a genious. Migrating from Germany and quickly becoming one of the great owners of all time. He was also very well respected by other owners. He also was the man responsible for making all the team schedules which was a major headache back then due to travel and other things. Sorry to ramble. I know you all probably have your one guy you think should be in. Mine is Barney dreyfuss.

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07-26-2004, 07:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>You wouldn't happen to have his Tip Top Bread card, would you?

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07-26-2004, 08:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>No. I don't have that.

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07-26-2004, 11:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I was just kidding. I did notice that Dreyfuss made the initial cut of veterans committee candidates.

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07-27-2004, 02:07 PM
Posted By: <b>ErikV.</b><p> Pittsburg Pirates owner Barney Dreyfuss (not Dryfuss) was instrumental in the downfall of the 3-man National Commission. As the story goes, Dreyfuss signed 17 year old George Sisler right out of high school, but Sisler didn't report. Rather, he enrolled at the University of Michigan where he would be signed by Browns manager, Branch Rickey. This dispute eventually went to the National Commission. The ruling set Dreyfuss off as the Commission ruled in favor of the Browns. After the ruling, Dreyfuss went on a campaign to have the National Commission disbanded. This eventually led to Kenesaw Landis becoming the first Commissioner in 1920. Dreyfuss never forgave Commission Chairman August Herrmann over this incident. It is probably fair to say that Dreyfuss made a few enemies over this incident. This could possibly explain, at least in part, why he has not made it to the Hall of Fame.

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07-27-2004, 04:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Pcelli60</b><p>Mr.Dreyfuss rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. But he is basically forgotten to time, dispite his influence.<BR>There are several players of that era who have shared a similar fate.. Of this group who is truly worthy of the hall? All of them?<BR>Clyde Milan, Ed Reulbach, Jake Daubert, Ed Konetchy, Fred Tenny ? I hope someday Barney goes in. But there are a few bodies a head of him, still from the old days.

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07-27-2004, 04:56 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Millan and Ruelbach are boarderline at best, even though Milan is a personal favorite of mine. Decon Phillippe is probably the one Deeadball Era player not in that most belongs. He was the ace of all the great Pittsburg teams of that era.<BR><BR>Jay

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07-27-2004, 04:59 PM
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07-27-2004, 05:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Never scanned before. Mark

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07-27-2004, 05:05 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>just need to open your editor and trim the scan. PhotoDelux, PhotoShop, or anything by Adobe will do the trick<BR><BR>Jay