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07-07-2004, 08:18 PM
Posted By: <b>TIK</b><p>I picked up an AWH Caramel on consignment - it has a bad cut on all 4 sides - can anyone tell me if these cards were cut off a box or if they were issued as a card?? The gentleman that gave me this card claims it was cut from a box -<BR><BR>Thank you<BR><BR><BR><img src="http://www.tikntik.home.earthlink.net/awhcaramel.JPG"><BR>

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07-07-2004, 08:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><BR> Hi Tik,<BR> None of the AWH's(3) that I have handled over the years were cut from a box, they look and feel just like regular E or T cards. I know Leon bought a few from Scottie B not too long ago, and I believe I still have pictures..............<BR><BR><BR><BR> Be well Brian

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07-07-2004, 08:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1089253458.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1089253489.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1089253520.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1089253552.JPG">

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07-07-2004, 10:20 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I don't think they were cut from a box. Not for sure (although a few lurkers might know) where they exactly came from. If I had to guess I would say they came in some kind of caramel package (duh)....but that's just a guess...I do think they are neat though.....and am always looking for more. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> sorry for the big pic<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1089260227.JPG">

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07-07-2004, 10:28 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>How many different backs are there? I was only aware of the 2 in the first pic. I've never seen a back like the one on Leon's card.<BR><BR>Jay

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07-07-2004, 10:59 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I have been told that the AWA is one of one, or one of two known, by everyone I have spoken with. Getting back to Terry's first question about the cut though...it does look like there is some unevenness to the cuts on a few of the cards I have. Not cut from a box but maybe hand cut? (as many were)......regards

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07-08-2004, 10:06 AM
Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>I've heard the E222's are full of back variations. Notice this one has different corner designs than the others. So far all four are different. Any more?<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1089302598.JPG">

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07-08-2004, 10:42 AM
Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>Very Little known about the series. I believe, like others above that they are an insert set, rather than a box design set, but cutting variances exist. I've noted the following on the series so far.... On the fronts, five different principal colors are used (Black, Brown-sepia,Green, Blue, Red, although it should be noted that a range in shades is common (Hawaiian punch red, cranberry red, black cherry red,etc) and not too much energy should be expended on those micro-varieties. On the backs I have observed two different colors used for printing, red & blue (Again, many micro-varieties in shades) and six different printing variations on AWH. I have never owned an AWA back,& I'm not certain how many different designs are known on that variation.

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07-08-2004, 10:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I am no expert on E222s. Not even close. But I strongly suspect these cards were not cut from boxes. I cannot think of a single vintage card cut from a box that has anything printed on the back. The only modern sets I can think of are the Hostess sets, which have statistics on the back, not an ad.<BR><BR>To me, it makes very little sense to go to the trouble of printing advertising on the back of a box card. The box itself no doubt had lots of advertising for the product. Putting an ad on the inside of a box where no one could see it would be borderline silly. The only purpose would be to show off the ad after a kid cut the card out of the box. But it is not even clear that vintage box cards (like Orange Borders or All Star cards) were meant to be cut out of the box. They may have just been considered part of the box design. So I don't think anyone would have bothered to put an ad on the back. Just my opinion.<BR><BR>Paul