VCBC came!

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>No time to review. The number featured promininetly inside doesn't work. Book looks good. Later.

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Posted By: <b>Mark Rios</b><p>Isn't that magazine ANNUAL???????

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>It looks GREAT. Has some Forum members' contributions, and a comparison of how the N28, T206, and 3 selected '30s cards have done compared to the stock market and gold. Also a list--from 1---60 (or maybe it's 100) of the top dealers with their scores(BUT--only one score per dealer! nO BREAKDOWN). Guess who came in first, with a sparkling 4.77 (out of 5), and Tik was second, and I think Scott B. was 3rd, but Sloate was nowhere near the top.<BR><BR>hAven't had time to read any of the articles yet...something neat about "plastic." Unless someone beats me to it (which i wish they would occasionally), I'll have more to say after i watch "Spirited Away" after my meeting half way across the state. About 2 A.M. That's 5, Eastern!<BR><BR>The cover is FANTASTIC--maybe some of you still get the site on the net? I don't! Anyway, red, with a circle containing a pair of hands in the grass, reaching for a MLB baseball. I think we could guess forever, unless you happen to recognize that part of that photo!<BR><BR>Gnereal survey questions: average age is about 30, most people think GREED is the prime thing wrong with the hobby. Too much auctions, not enough letters to the editor, need more in-depth articles on players, and an occasional article on a collector (if I read right).<BR><BR>Obviously, this was all done in a great rush, and I can't even plug the Forum! HELL&gt; Tin Newcomb (T207s--no pop. explosion), James Verrill On "plastic"--that horrible kind), Purdey did the comparisons with gold and the stocks, John Drecker on the Pittsburgh Allegheneys (nice photos), John oVERFIELD ON A 19TH CENTURY STAR, AND i'M GLAD TO SEE ANOTHER pRESTON oREM ARTICLE, THIS ONE ON THE 1874 N.A. with one of MY Harper's woodcuts (with Spaulding, Wright and--is it o'rOURKE OR cONNOR?) Haven't read ANY yet.

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>Send me a case of whatever you're on. ... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jeff O</b><p>While I look forward to seeing the new issue, too bad it's coming out two months later than promised. So much for "Our production schedule will be cast in stone..." as we were told in the last issue.<BR><BR>Don't get me wrong... I hope for nothing but the best for VCBC. But when they set the expecations and then don't follow through, it's very, very frustrating.<BR><BR>Jeff

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>"Spirited Away" was a B+ animated film, and I resent having it compared to "The Triplets of Bellville, an A+ animated film. But I didn't mind watching it.<BR><BR>Sent "soulgoober" --hey, I didn't make that up!--scans of a '51 Parkhurst Sawchuk, '13 Imperial Tobacco Postcard Vezina and a C57 Taylor, and I bet he doesn't like hockey one bit better than he did yesterday.<BR><BR>And I HAVE to get some sleep, because Mark Macrae's show is saturday morning, the 26th, at Saint Leander's Church, San Leandro.PLUG. And congratulations to him on winning the beautiful card dealer's contest in VCBC.

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>.....

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I got lost in the T207 article. Maybe I'm just not well enough versed in the cards, but I could not follow the interplay between the lists and the articles. Which ones are the tougher ones? <BR><BR>The survey results were interesting, mostly for demographic reasons. The vast majority of the readership is entering or is within its peak earning years (31-60), hence its peak discretionary spending years. Also eye-popping was the result that only 1/3 of those who responded buy on ebay, yet 2/3 have a computer. I, frankly, am not surprised that only 4% of those surveyed are under 30. It is an atypical "kid" who is interested in vintage cards. Remember, for most middle and upper middle class men (sorry Julie) 18-25 is time spent trying to get through school, get a job and get some, 25-35 is spent settling down and getting through the kid thing, and then you have time and income for stuff like cards.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>so there...

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Posted By: <b>Julie Again</b><p>not player biographies.

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>with his T207 articles. While I spun off in my article two issues ago extolling the beauty of the set and the aesthetics, Tim did a masterful job of describing the distribution and theories therein. Tim's yeoman work on compiling a complex statistical model to show scarcity and possible distributions should be a model for anyone picking up the gauntlet for the other card sets out there. <BR>I understand Adams' point, that the statistics might be a little tough for anyone but T207 collectors to fully digest, but to those of us who do collect the set, it was a definitive and eye-opening study. <BR>Kudos, Tim!<BR>Bob

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Posted By: <b>Julie Once More</b><p>clear conclusions. And I don't even like the darned things.<BR>I know people have wondered for years why there are so few stars in the set. A plan that never got fulfilled--I can sure understand that part, cause I don't like them!

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Posted By: <b>Ordet</b><p>Hello - new guy here. I collect T201s and was wondering whether anyone knows whether VCBC has published an article on the set. I tried to look through the various indexes, but couldn't find one. Thanks in advance.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Don't know about articles in VCBC, but I can give you experience from putting together 3 sets. The Daugherty/Lord card is supposed to be toughest, but I can't say that I found it particularily difficult to find. No cards really stuck as being very hard. I do remember that the Speaker/Gardner was always one of the last I needed to complete a set. I don't know if the myth still persists, but the cards do not contect together to form a scene. IF you have any questions about the set, I'd be more than happy to try and answer them.<BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I have a badly miscut Walsh card that has his glove hand creeping around to the other side of the card. This would be possible only if the same card was printed in a horizontal row.

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>It's amazing that we haven't heard from Julie on this post yet.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Julie started the thread.<BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>Larry Ordet</b><p>Thanks, Jay. I'm pretty far into a graded set of T201s (and will be even further if things go well tomorrow). I agree on Dougherty/Lord. Pretty easy to find. I guess I have one question - do you know how they were packaged (folded/unfolded)? Thanks - Larry

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>so they could fit little boxes of tobaccop product.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Although I know of no know unopened packs or of anyone opening one up, from the size of the pcks from that era, the only possible way they were packaged was to fold them.<BR><BR>The cards also seem to have been cut from the sheet horizontially first, then folded and cut vertically.<BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I had an actual T202 with the original box. The card fit right inside folded over on its indented lines. I also have a Mecca pack of the same dimensions as the packs T201s came in. The card would have had to be folded to fit in there too.

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>There is an interior pink box which is partially slid out--everything was really protected. Except, of course, the smoker!<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1088377228.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1088377263.JPG"> <BR><BR>(Thanks to Scott M. for the trade)

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Posted By: <b>Rob K</b><p>Julie, do you mind if I read the new VCBC issue by myself?<BR>I know you're excited with your copy but I haven't been waiting for my new copy for months now so you can ruin the moment by reviewing every single article!<BR><BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>Ordet</b><p>Great stuff - thanks for the info on the T201/2s.

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>then, after I posted a Hassan box (having nothing to do with VCBC!) someone else says it's annoying that I talk about the magazine...<BR><BR>I guess I should stop saying I got mine and what's in it--or maybe confine my comments to "I got mine, so yours are coming."

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>...because when I wrote to ask him if I was leaning over his shoulder when he read his VCBC, the mail was returned to me as being "undeliverable."<BR><BR>Still, I think I'l linmit my future commernts to "VCBC came."

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Posted By: <b>Rob L</b><p>I always found the toughest card to find for the T201's to be the Lajoie/Falkenberg card. The Dougherty/Lord card always seemed to be available.

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>I buy you books, buy you books.<BR>Teach you all I know, and still you insist on putting a gun to a readers head and forcing them to read your thread.<BR><BR>How many times must I tell you, if they want to read it they'll read it, if not, they'll move on to a thread about slabs.<BR><BR>BTW, I want to thank you for reminding me that I should check out the current standings of my VCBC subscription.<BR>It was the mentioning of some of the articles that inspired me.<BR>Thank you!<BR>Joe

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>I find Julie's VCBC posts very useful - I received my copy today, but didn't even need to open the wrapper thanks to her thorough reviews.<BR><BR>John - were there any photos in your article? LMK - if so, then I will go ahead and open the wrapper and take a look at the magazine - thanks.

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Posted By: <b>John/z28jd</b><p>I dont subscribe to VCBC and didnt get a copy of it,so i havent seen the final article.They couldve used the scans i sent but they werent the best like usual with my scanner.......Open it and let me know, Scott

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>I'm probably a little late on this post but I have seen a Hassan pack opened and a NM (albeit off-cut) card pulled. I bought the box off the "opener". The cards were folded inside to fit. On an interesting note, the box that held the card actually has a baseball scorecard on the reverse of the inner slide. If anyone wants to see what I mean, you can just email me.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>TWO free copies. I got two each time I puiblished a letter to the editor. Of course, thast was under the old regime.

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Posted By: <b>John/28jd</b><p>Thanks Julie,maybe theyre on the way still.I'll let you know if i get them otherwise ill just take you up on your offer of sending me yours when youre done reading it