Need help to identfy this Ty Cobb card

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>I just came across a group of old cards that i had no idea what they were i figured out that half of them are w575's.But there are 20 to 30 cards that i can't find.They measure appox 2-7/16 by 3-1/2.They have blank backs and some of them have a FM copyright on the front.Thanks for any help anyone can give me,John<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1086225167.JPG"> <BR><BR>[edited to show image]

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Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>I swear I have seen these before, but I can't seem to place them. Anyone?<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1086225167.JPG"><BR><BR>Brian

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Posted By: <b>JC</b><p>I'm thinking Max Stein post cards... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>1919 M101-6 reprints<BR><BR> The authentic M101-6 Sporting News cards are 4.5" by 6.5" with a narower border (see page 375 2004 SCD). Your 2.5" by 3.5" card is modern card size like many reprints or fantasy issues from the 1970's-2000's. But....I have yet to see a reprint M101-6 that I can remember. Frank

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Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>A few years ago I got a particular blank backed W card (forget the number, W-5XXX). It was so cheap looking I at first wondered if I had bought a Xerox. After looking at it more closely, I saw that it was genuine but(t) ugly.<BR><BR>For these types of black and white picture cards, especially when the collector has not owned one before (like me and that W-5XXX) or it's an unknown item, the collector can take a handheld microscope and examine the picture printing. These types of early cards were usually photoengravings, which is not difficult to identify and differentiate between a modern reprint or fantasy item. The key is that photoengraving was commercially discontinued a good number of years back. <BR><BR>It also shows that a collector can often make reasonable judgements about age, even if he has not handled the item before or is even familiar with the genre (Hollywood picture premiums, foreign cards, etc).

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Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>For collectors and sellers of early baseball cards who are concerned about authenticity issues (reprints, original, identification of new items), I would recommend the following:<BR><BR>1) Learn how to identify early color lithography. (The printing on a T206 or a Allen & Ginter is nothing like modern card printing)<BR><BR>2) Learn how to identify photoengraving. Tons of old cards were made with this printing (M116, Sporting News...), and this printing isn't used commercially any more.<BR><BR>3) Learn how to identify the modern half-tone lithography printing (multi-color dot pattern as appears on a 1988 Fleer or 2001 Time magazine cover). Quick way to identify many modern reprints, as an eary baseball card would not have this type of printing pattern.<BR><BR>4) Get a blacklight and learn how to use it. If you spread out a pile of questionable early cards, photos and prints on the floor of a pitch black room and shined your black light, you could pick out out many reprints before you turned the room light back on! Tell me that isn't cool.<BR><BR>5) Access the hobby's knowledge and gain experience: ala follow auctions, read books, buy a Standard Catalog, ask questions of others. In example, you don't have to be a print historian to know that Froy Joy Babe Ruths didn't come in blue or multi-color. You don't have to be a paper fiber expert to know to avoid AAA and PRO.<BR><BR>6) Use your brain. Think about things, use common sense. Read the seller's description and see if it is credible.<BR><BR>Also note, that if you've learned how to do #1-4, you've also learned how to examine early tobacco labels, premiums and similar items.<BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>M101-6........the copyright symbol and typeface look just like it. I agree with Frank that it's a reprint. I have a friend who collects them. From vague memory, they're about 4x5 or something like that on medium cardstock. Definitely not thick borders like this one...........