1887-90 Old Judge N172 - Captain John Ward HOF - NY NL

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Posted By: <b>billy</b><p>I am in the pursuit of a John Ward card.<BR>I came across this on Ebay<BR>1887-90 Old Judge N172 - Captain John Ward HOF - NY NL <BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4125886598&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4125886598&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1</a><BR><BR>Since my experience has been mostly in the Topps 1970 to 1990 range, and all of my experience has been via shows...no internet purchases, I wonder if anyone can provide some feedback on this card and its claim to be original.<BR><BR>The seller says it is and he has many postive feedbacks. But on a random checking of feedback, I only found sales of graded cards. This one is not graded, and the back is non-existent.<BR><BR>I have heard that reprint cards say "reprint", but I wonder if that is the case for all of them. I know there are reprints of many many different sets. <BR><BR>Well...thanks from a first-time-poster.<BR><BR>Billy<BR>

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Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>It's trimmed, skinned, and beat to death, but I'd say its real.

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Posted By: <b>billy</b><p>Thanks for such a quick response, Kenny.<BR>It sure it beat up...but that's the only way I could afford one. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>Mind if I ask what you based your feedback on? Is there something you know about Old Judge cards?<BR><BR>Thanks again,<BR><BR>Billy<BR>

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>Yep, it's real, but a Jeff S. special <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Elliot,<BR><BR>Thanks for your feedback.<BR><BR>I guess you guys have some inside jokes that I may someday catch onto, but for now I must ask "What is a Jeff S special"?<BR><BR>I know the guy selling the card is not named Jeff.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Billy

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Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p><a href="http://stores.ebay.com/psa1-Vintage-Baseball-Cards" target=_new>http://stores.ebay.com/psa1-Vintage-Baseball-Cards</a><BR><BR>Jeff Sackmann's eBay Store.

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Posted By: <b>Halleygator</b><p>Good God ... those "Jeff S. cards" are painful to look at!<BR><BR>They look as if they have been tortured on purposed.

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Posted By: <b>Billy</b><p>A ha! Thanks for filling me in.<BR><BR>Those Jeff S cards are up my affordability alley.<BR><BR>I guess buying poor poor condition cards is a catch 22. It seems that the way to be sure a card is original is if its graded, but I don't believe they grade cards is very poor poor shape.<BR><BR>Again, much obliged.<BR><BR>Billy

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Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>I'd say if the Ward price stays low, it would be worth snagging. If matted and framed creatively, it could make an attractive and unique display piece.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff S</b><p><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/nb/jms/oj_casey.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>Do you accept personal checks?

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Posted By: <b>Billy</b><p>Thanks for all the help. I put in a bid and lost. Based on the price it sold for, I was the 2nd highest bidder but of course I don't know how the high winning bidders high bid was.<BR><BR>I'll keep my eyes open for some sort of Ward card in off condition from the pre-1900's. One day...<BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>that's one of the nicest skinned, trimmed cards I've seen. Why not go for it? But I didn't, and you didn't go high enough...