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03-23-2004, 05:02 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw&nbsp; </b><p>I am going to be in NYC next week and I have an appointment to view the Burdick Collection at the Met!!<BR><BR>I'm going to look at the museum's holdings in certain N T and E boxing sets as research for my book. Time permitting, I'm also going to take a look at as many of the N baseball cards as I can. <BR><BR>I can hardly wait...<BR><BR>[edited to promote topic!]

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03-23-2004, 05:11 PM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Adam:<BR><BR>How exactly does one go about getting himself/herself permission to view the holdings?<BR><BR>Kevin

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03-23-2004, 07:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>What exactly is the Burdick collection? It sounds like it must be good.

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03-23-2004, 08:02 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I am now officially embarassed to be related to Lee.<BR><BR>Jefferson Burdick is the the guy who wrote/created the ACC and came up with all the set designations. His personal collection of cards is housed in the NY MErtropolitan Museum.<BR><BR>Jay

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03-23-2004, 08:02 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I am now officially embarassed to be related to Lee.<BR><BR>Jefferson Burdick is the the guy who wrote/created the ACC and came up with all the set designations. His personal collection of cards is housed in the NY MErtropolitan Museum.<BR><BR>Jay

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03-23-2004, 08:05 PM
Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>Here is a good article about Jefferson Burdick, the father of the ACC classifications--like T206, etc.) and his collection at the Met. Mr. Adam is very lucky indeed.<BR><BR><a href="http://www.oldbaseball.com/refs/burdick.html" target=_new>http://www.oldbaseball.com/refs/burdick.html</a><BR><BR>Brian<BR><BR>

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03-23-2004, 08:54 PM
Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>At least Lee doesn't stutter when he posts!

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03-23-2004, 08:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>I used to work at the Met, and the print room is probably most protective about those cards above anything else. I've sat in front of a Rembrandt and a Leonardo, but they've cautioned about seeing the cards, so congrats Warshawlaw: that's a coveted appointment. For those of you not so lucky, a good selection of the Burdick collection is on display in a rotating gallery just north of the Temple of Dendur in the museum. There are great T206's, etc, but also an outstandingly high-grade collection of fifties cards.

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03-24-2004, 04:16 AM
Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>When I was a kid I practically lived at the Met.<BR>Unfortunately it was before Burdick donated his collection, and most of my time was spent in the Egyptology area.<BR>Again my congratulations, and please give us a rundown when you get back.<BR>Joe

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03-24-2004, 07:32 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-24-2004, 10:02 AM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I called and asked for an appointment and they gave me one.

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03-24-2004, 10:08 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott</b><p>Hi Adam,<BR><BR>When you called in were you able to just give the date you planned to be in the area and you got the appointment or did you have to pick the date far in advance?<BR><BR>

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03-24-2004, 04:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Joel</b><p><BR>to a report on what you have seen at the musuem.

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03-24-2004, 07:52 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>and gave them the dates I was to be in NYC next week and told them to pick a date. They seemingly had multiple openings. <BR><BR>I am working on a book--maybe that is why I had no problems?

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03-25-2004, 09:00 AM
Posted By: <b>hop373</b><p>If your writing a book on boxing cards, maybe your the guy I need to talk to...I have an American Caramels card with no name on the bottom....I think the card is Jersey Joe Wolcott...someone told me this is a rare variation that occured in the American Caramels Boxing Set. Any idea of how valid this is or what the card might be worth? Thanks.

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03-26-2004, 02:10 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>email me a scan, front and back<BR><BR>[edited to move email address]

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03-26-2004, 04:50 PM
Posted By: <b>t-206collector</b><p>I tried to make a similar appointment in January and they turned me down. Perhaps if I told them I was writing a book they would let me see the cards. It may be that because you are asking to see the boxing (as opposed to baseball) cards they will let you in. Once inside, they may not let you see the baseball cards because the books in which they are contained are not in viewable condition, or so I was told. You may encounter some resistance to seeing the baseball cards once you complete your boxing card research. The curators told me that I was free to see the postcards and other paper ephemera in the collection, but not the baseball cards. She actually told me to come back "after I strike it rich." Pretty obnoxious, I thought. <BR><BR>Good luck and please report back your success. Perhaps we can start a fundraising on this board to have the collection better preserved so that we can all view the cards at our leisure. The rotating collection is nice, but comes up a little short, in my opinion.<BR><BR>Paul

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03-26-2004, 09:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p>Thanks again to Brian P. for pointing these out. There are 2 Burdick articles on the oldbaseball.com site (both originally printed in SCD):<BR><BR><a href="http://www.oldbaseball.com/refs/burdick.html">Jefferson Burdick's Collection And the American Card Catalog</a><BR><BR><a href="http://www.oldbaseball.com/refs/burdickrev.html">Burdick Revisited</a><BR><BR>

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03-29-2004, 11:26 PM
Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>Thanks for posting the additional article Bill--I plum missed it. It was interesting to read a detailed account of how the collection is housed (and what a shame it couldn't have its own museum and updated and collector friendly displays). But I have to admit, the whole mystery of what one could find in an album has its appeal.<BR><BR>And once again, Adam is a rather fortunate fellow.<BR><BR>Brian

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03-30-2004, 11:51 AM
Posted By: <b>hop 373</b><p>Sorry, I have been gone for a few days. Let me know where to send the scans and I'll be happy to get them to you.<BR><BR>