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02-03-2004, 08:28 AM

Posted By: Anonymous http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31 719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1 How much worse could this have been trimmed?

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02-03-2004, 08:33 AM

Posted By: Julie <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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02-03-2004, 08:39 AM

Posted By: dave m It looks like the first ever die cut.

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02-03-2004, 08:51 AM

Posted By: Rob LIt actually looks like a a piece of a T202 triple folder. It's fairly common that the T202 are trimmed and sold as T205.

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02-03-2004, 08:56 AM

Posted By: BenActually, Joss wasn't in the t202 set...

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02-03-2004, 09:03 AM

Posted By: Rob LThanks. I stand corrected.

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02-03-2004, 09:04 AM

Posted By: JulieI have the t205 Joss, too. Also, almost the whole T202 set--Ben's right--unfortunately, there's no Joss.

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02-03-2004, 09:14 AM

Posted By: JulieDots of missing paper (or pigment) on face and interior of card seem very regularly spaced...spot of missing color above the right-side printing reminds me of...my card! As does the color distribution on the mouth (indiosyncratic to indivisual cards...)

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02-03-2004, 09:16 AM

Posted By: ramram<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1</a>

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02-03-2004, 09:32 AM

Posted By: BenDo you mean to tell me you typed out that ENTIRE URL??? Ok, for next time, simply highlight the URL, then press ctrl-C (copy). Then, go to your address bar at the top of your screen (where it says http://) and press ctrl-V (paste) and then enter.

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02-03-2004, 09:36 AM

Posted By: JulieThe mouth and the dot on my card are different. Also: the transitions between colors are smoother. I believe it's a fake (such as it is!)

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02-03-2004, 02:03 PM

Posted By: runscottIf your girlfriend is ever looking at your Cobbs and says "I'd like a blue one", you could be ready to meet her needs! <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784934515&category=31719" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784934515&category=31719</a>

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02-03-2004, 02:39 PM

Posted By: jay behrensI love the "...will go well with you other reproductions." LMAO!!!! Jay

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02-03-2004, 02:56 PM

Posted By: JulieSeller of the "blue" Cobb clearly states that's it's a reproduction and "one of a kind.'" (well, maybe that's a little of an oximoron)LOL (that's the only one I know.

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02-03-2004, 03:44 PM

Posted By: DaveJulie, Indications of laughing using web-speak can take many forms: LOL - Laugh out Loud ROFL - Rolling on Floor Laughing LMAO - Laugh My Ass Off Dave

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02-03-2004, 04:21 PM

Posted By: JulieDavid Rudd's post ("early photographers list") about watching the superbowl next Sunday made me LMAO!

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02-03-2004, 06:19 PM

Posted By: DaveHere's a card that is one end of a T202. Check out the cut on the right. Looks like a pretty clean tear against a straight edge. I don't see how this could ever pass as a T205. Much smaller (same size as the inside?), missing the gold, and the back is different - doesn't say series 400. Also missing team symbol and letter. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1075774664.JPG">

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02-03-2004, 06:37 PM

Posted By: brian pI know there are some admirers of the T202 set on the board, but I've always thought that, instead of that "revolutionary' tri-fold design, that the T202's end panels would have made a great set without the middle b/w section and its fellow mate on the other side. Just think, a regular tobacco card size that combines both the white borders of the T206 with the great portrait art and decorative backgrounds of the T205. Of course, you can collect such a set just by checking out ebay for all the identified (and non-identified) panels--and it wouldn't cost you an arm and a leg. But my guess it would still be quite a challenge. Brian

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02-03-2004, 06:50 PM

Posted By: runscottsorry - couldn't resist. The first tobacco card I ever saw, other than photos of the famous t206 green portrait Cobb and t205 Cobb, was a t206 Dan McGann - fairly boring, but enought to get me interested. Next I purchased a "3 piece" t202 with ends separate - Jennings and McGraw. To me, this was absolutely the coolest card I had ever seen. I couldn't see how it's being cut up could be a bad thing - if I was a kid and had a pile of these, I think I would have cut them up almost immediately.

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02-03-2004, 07:36 PM

Posted By: DaveL M A O

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02-03-2004, 07:57 PM

Posted By: Julie VognarA picture is (s0ometimes)worth a bunch of words. Great black-and-white photography, plus the beautiful lithography of the T205 set. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1075780155.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1075780207.JPG">

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02-03-2004, 08:16 PM

Posted By: DaveJulie, Beautiful cards. I wish my T205's were near the quality of my Johnson (the card, of course). This card came as part of an original collection from a relative that smoked (a long time ago, in Virginia). This story truely includes a trunk in the attic of the original collector. None of my cards have ever been sold. I lost my collector's virginity this last weekend and bought my first ever card (on ebay), so when it arrives I will have one card that was purchased. My wife is worried about the budget for my new hobby. Imagine that. We'll work through that. I have no idea what happened to the rest of this T202. It is really too bad.

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02-03-2004, 08:32 PM

Posted By: brian pThat Wood panel on the T202 is a beautiful piece of art. I love how it seems to have captured ol' Smokey's questioning gaze, complete with slightly cocked head. The T205 set sure missed out on this card. Brian

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02-03-2004, 11:55 PM

Posted By: Jonathan PerryGreetings, I am the seller of the T205 Joss which some are commenting on item # 2784207140. I have had nothing but positive transactions with several members of this board for the last few years. I am curious to know why individuals suggest the card is a reprint yet not a single person has contacted me directly for an additional scan or asked a question. As many of you know I have dealt with hundreds of T205s over the last year or two. Including the sale of 5 T205 Joss cards. Sure the card is trimmed, it is being sold as a filler for a collector who just wants the card and maybe can not afford a $400-$1000 Joss card. To my knowledge the card is an original T205, and for anyone who believes differently if you win the card and have a few "experts" examine it I will be more than happy to provide a full refund. Good luck to anyone who participates in the auction,

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02-04-2004, 05:37 AM

Posted By: runscottJonathan - only Julie commented with the opinion that the card was a fake. My thought was that it's real, which is also what common sense dictates given its condition, but I did not see the point in contradicting Julie. Others who know you and can also vouch for your integrity probably felt the same way.

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02-04-2004, 06:04 AM

Posted By: JulieIt may well be real--it was just that I noticed a big difference between the way your card moves from one color to the next and the way mine does (bought it off "grays")---the transitions in yours are rougher. But everyone knows that poor condition is no sure sign of authenticity--sellers doctor their fakes by roughing them up for sale as well! Nothing's certain but death and Lipset. (How'd HE get into this?) <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>