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01-20-2004, 08:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Michael</b><p>Does anyone know anything about this piece? Is it considered a "Kreig & Co. Cubs Base Ball Mail Card"? <BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781642016&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781642016&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1</a>

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01-20-2004, 01:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Nick Martinez</b><p>It is a fold out postcard made in 1907. I have not seen many offered for sale. In this condition I think it should end around $200-$275. But, ya never know! Especially with it being posted on the board before the auction ended.<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Nick

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01-20-2004, 01:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Nickinvegas</b><p>he won't end the auction early. I already tried to pay him off. I made a nice offer and he is going to ride it out.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Nick

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01-20-2004, 01:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Hankron</b><p>From what I understand they were commonly used as accordians during the depression,which explains their current rarity. It also explains why 1930s music sucks.

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01-20-2004, 01:24 PM
Posted By: <b>poelks</b><p>Yo Nick, Maybe you could tell us what book you found a book value in?

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01-20-2004, 01:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Nickinvegas</b><p>The value is posted on page 210 of the new Standard Catalog of Baseball cards. As most would agree, Lemkes guide is just a guide. Experience also helps in estimating the value...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Nick

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01-21-2004, 05:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Nick, I am curious as to the title & category on page 210. Please advise. Can anyone with the Guide validate Nick's claim?

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01-21-2004, 05:59 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>They didn't mention T.F. Brown and some of the other portraits, but otherwise it seems to be described accurately. 2000 near mint, 600 VG. True, there's no picture.

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01-21-2004, 06:31 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Is the guy who keeps asking if Nick is telling the truth the actual owner of the card? If so, it sounds like he is really fishing around among others who might be interested in the card, which should be done in the "buy/sell/trade" thread.<BR><BR>If not, then I don't understand why he is questioning what Nick told him - Nick is an honest guy who has no incentive to deceive someone who is simply requesting information. Nick provided it - end of story.<BR><BR>If every time I posted something here, some new guy asked others to verify that I was telling the truth, including posting my emails, I think I would leave.<BR><BR>

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01-21-2004, 07:52 AM
Posted By: <b>Michael</b><p>No mention of TF Brown & no photo? I'm not convinced that this item is the one SCD is talking about. No disrespect to Nick intended. Has anyone seen/bought or sold this item before? That would be a question for this forum, not B/S/T. <BR><BR>RunScott, chill.....you're understanding is secondary to where I'm sitting.

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01-21-2004, 08:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>I sent a scan to Tim (Anonymous), my scanner is being a b--isn';t being very nice, so I';m not going to send any more right now!<BR><BR>It looks fine to me, except for the lack of picture. It's the WORLD cHAMPION cUBS, 1907--remember? I guess not even I remember that!

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01-21-2004, 08:16 AM
Posted By: <b>Michael</b><p>Julie, you are awesome!! That is it. I appreciate it. Nick, henceforth, I will never doubt you again. Has anyone ever seen this albino albatross?

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01-21-2004, 09:43 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>My understanding and that of others is secondary to yours, no doubt. But this isn't a "secret hand-shake" forum - your postings have been more than questionable and if you can't handle the heat you should conduct your business by email.

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01-30-2004, 05:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Michael</b><p>To all 'rookies' looking to sell your vintage items, DO NOT accept the early offers of some the 'regulars' so they can brag about the the way they ripped you off by getting you to end your acution early. Stay the course & let your auctions go the distance. You'll regret it if you don't. <BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781642016" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781642016</a><BR>

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01-30-2004, 06:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Nickinvegas</b><p>Michael of posting my e-mail. Here is is:<BR><BR>"Michael,<BR>I am glad your item did so well, with auctions you never know. Especially with pre-war stuff, the prices go through the roof sometimes. Auction prices are impossible to predict, and often vastly exceed or fall short of book price. <BR><BR>Your item may have done even better if you did not choose to take such an attitude on the NET54 board. Your actions certainly stopped me from bidding. <BR><BR>Good luck on future auctions...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Nick"<BR><BR>-With the seams having come apart in "2" places and the missing portrait of the president, I think the item did quite well. That is one Frank Chance item that will remain on the want list. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>Nick

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01-30-2004, 07:06 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>..and he's practically new to ebay--7 feedback!

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01-30-2004, 03:57 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>because I don't understand what the heck you all are talking about in this subthread.

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01-30-2004, 06:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Hankron</b><p>Adam, Elliot deleted a lot of the posts as some were deemed improper. So continuity may be missing.

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01-30-2004, 07:16 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Nick handled this very, very well - I would have told the guy to f*ck himself. I realize that's inappropriate, but that's just me.

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01-30-2004, 08:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Nickinvegas</b><p>Adam,<BR>Just a quick snynopsis of this rediculous thread:<BR><BR>As you and most everyone here knows I am an agressive buyer of Frank Chance cards. I saw the afore mentioned postcard and I emailed the seller a few hours after the auction started and made him an offer of $300. Which considering past sales of the card and SC book value I thought it was a fair offer. The card had a few torn panels and is missing the team presidents panel. He rejected the offer then posted my email that contained my cell phone number on this board. He was asking the board if anyone can verify if what I was saying about the book value was true. Which made it look like he was fishing for a better offer or he was calling me a liar. Anyway, the auction ended higher than I offered him so he did well to reject my offer.<BR><BR>I am often the high bidder or one of the top bidders on most Chance items, but on this one I was not about to bid again. I hope the buyer enjoys the card, for now it will remain on my want list. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>Nick