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10-16-2003, 08:24 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott&nbsp; </b><p>I think it's necessary that I do this in order to save the Cubs - I am ALWAYS wrong about games, so I will state unequivicobally that "The Cubs are Toast". Yes, if ever there was a curse on a sports team, the one that is obviously now on the Chicago Cubs owes it to all self-respecting curses everywhere to thrash Kerry Wood and the Cubbies this afternoon, in a manner that properly humiliates their fans and at least one additional Cub player. <BR><BR>One more scape-goat to stand side-by-side with Gonzales, Buckner, Leon Durham, Fred Snodgrass, Fred Merkle and all the others who have made a one single goof in a baseball game that we will never let them (or their ghosts) forget...but especially Peggy Lucas of Evanston, Ill, the real culprit at last night's game, who even admitted: "I feel like it's all my fault... Just before the Marlins started scoring, I said, `I can't believe we're going to the World Series.' I should have known better with the curse and all."<BR><BR>I challenge that curse to do it's thing tonight, in a way that proves its existence beyond a doubt...Kerry Wood throws the final series-winning strike and the ball unravels in mid-air and is carried away by a pelican as Marlins circle the bases in disbelief...<BR><BR>

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10-16-2003, 08:35 AM
Posted By: <b>halleygator</b><p>The Baseball Gods must love Greek tragedies.<BR><BR>Why else could this be happening?<BR><BR>Why else would there be only TWO GUYS in the HISTORY of baseball who ever played the game with the name of "Mordecai"...<BR><BR>and ONE of them was the reason the Cubs WON their last World Series in 1908 ...<BR><BR>and the OTHER just knocked a 3-run double to possibly knock them OUT of the World Series???

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10-16-2003, 08:57 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>and I didn't believe him when I called at break to get the final score. I didn't believe him till I watched the nightly news. i thought he was playing an October Fool's joke on me.<BR><BR>Scott: any more of those beautiful OJ sets? How much?<BR>I put the four cards you sent in Mylar at the end of my OJ collection...the colors are SO fantastic.<BR><BR>I think they're easily recognisable as reprints to anyone who's ever owned an Old Judge, or has looked through a stack, but not so to someone who has just gotten bitten by the 19th century bug, and is thinking "I gotta get me some of those Old Judges." Of<BR>course, he probably got bitten by seeing an Old Judge in the first place.<BR>At the bank, people said, "keep those around for another 80 years, and they're sure to be worth lots..."

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10-16-2003, 09:21 AM
Posted By: <b>mrc32</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1066231187.JPG"> <BR><BR>The net is GREAT when you want a laugh<BR>The net is BAD when you are what is being laughed at<BR><BR>GO CUBS<BR><BR>

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10-16-2003, 09:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Jimmy Leiderman</b><p>"We'll be talking about that guy for a long time. We need to send that guy a box of chocolates."<BR> — Mike Mordecai, Marlins infielder <BR><BR>"Everybody comes to the ballpark and wants a ball. It's unfortunate it happened. I was very upset. I was there. I got there in time. I jumped. I had my eyes on the ball. But everybody who goes to the ballpark wants a baseball. Hopefully, he doesn't have to regret it for the rest of his life." <BR> — Moises Alou, Cubs left fielder <BR><BR>Misc...<BR><BR>Over the last two seasons, Wood and Prior have started back-to-back games 17 different times. Only once have the Cubs lost both of those games. If they lose two in a row in this setting, then what? Uhhhhh, don't ask.<BR><BR>

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10-16-2003, 10:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Rob M (ramram)</b><p>Cub fans quit fretting. You are your own worse enemy! Besides, I got an early edition of the paper for tomorrow and the Cubs won.

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10-16-2003, 11:17 AM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I went to dinner with my daughter when it was 3-0 and came home to watch the celebration in CHI. I laughed my @$$ off instead. What buffoons. Oh, let's not blame the poor schmuck in the stands: he didn't bobble a double play ball, serve up BP to several Marlins players, etc., etc. Let's place blame where it is due: Dusty Baker and the Cubs bullpen. Baker left Prior out there after it was apparent he was laboring AND he stupidly let Prior pitch to Pudge--a .500 hitter in the series with 1B open. Walk his @$$ and look for the DP. Instead, he rakes one, clears the bases and then comes the hook? Even I know better. Of course, with a bully like his and such a thin starting staff... Suffice it to say that these guys need to grow some 'nads; Stengel wouldn't have hesitated to have Reynolds or Raschi come in and relieve to nail down the pennant. I'm certain to draw a rasher of crap on this, but if I'm 3 up with no legitimate bullpen and five outs away, Kerry is coming in to nail it down. Now, they've got to pull it out in a one-game showdown. <BR><BR>If they make it, the Yankees (or God forbid the *(&^%& scum sox) are gonna mash them into little pieces.

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10-16-2003, 11:24 AM
Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>about sums it up!

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10-16-2003, 11:59 AM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>for printing the kid's name. My God, 3 other fans went for the ball also. That didn't lose the game. If Gonzalez hadn't nonchalanted the ground ball and remembered what he learned in Little League, that late in the game when you are ahead you always make sure of getting ONE out, things would have been different. Bringing Farnsworth in with men on base is like bringing gasoline to a bonfire. Idiotic. With Clements and Zambrana in the pen and knowing you only needed six outs to go to the W.S., Baker screwed up. I agree with Adam, you walk Pudge, he is a man on a mission. If the Cubs lose, they'll find some other reason to explain their ineptitude, like the curse of the kid, or something. <BR>

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10-16-2003, 09:16 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>The ghost of the billy goat, Murphy, is currenty stomping on Cubs fans hearts. I bet the network and media are crying as the Fish look like they are in.

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10-16-2003, 09:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Rob M (ramram)</b><p>Same one that said Enron stock was a gonna go sky high!

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10-17-2003, 10:40 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>Torre burned nearly every starter he had to close down the pennant. Baker, watch and learn; there is no tomorrow when the pennant is on the line. Big, healthy men can pitch more than once every four or five days.<BR><BR>Worst managerial choice this year: pitch to pudge or leave pedro in there to pitch to matsui? <BR><BR>New Yankees cap: $27<BR>Lost time from work to watch a 5:00 game: $195/hr.<BR>Watching the botox lose again: priceless. <BR><BR>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<BR><BR>{sorry, I'm giddy). <BR><BR>

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10-17-2003, 10:46 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>Look at it this way, what would New Englanders have to feel despondent and bitch about if they had won? <BR>The Curse is real. Deal with it!<BR>Just glad the game got over before the 15th inning, I couldn't have watched if Weaver had gone in to pitch.

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10-18-2003, 12:04 AM
Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>It's nice to see that Hell has not frozen over, and it's the Yankees vs. the Marlins in the WS. As an added bonus, Bucky Dent has passed the torch to Aaron Boone. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-18-2003, 06:29 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>It seems that pro athletes really believe it.<BR><BR>Mariano: "I was thanking the lord," said Rivera. "You don't know. I had a lot of conversations with the man. I was thanking him for getting us through this game. This was his game."<BR><BR>So it was God, not Babe Ruth...Wow the Sox really never had a chance.<BR><BR>

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10-18-2003, 08:17 AM
Posted By: <b>John(z28jd)</b><p> For me at least,this world series in 24 hours went from possibly the most anticipated ever to who gives a rats butt.Both of these teams have won within the last 6 years,the yankees have won enough already,i hate Ivan Rodriguez with a passion and Tim McCarver announcing! <BR><BR> This series couldnt be worse because i dont want either team to win and im not going to listen to Tim "im always right no matter what i say and ill take 2 or 3 innings to prove it" McCarver<BR><BR> I wouldve been glued to the tv if either cubs or red sox were in it,and if both were in i would be taking off from work and taping the games.Now i could care less.With Giants losing in the 1st round and of course my Pirates not making it,this is the most dissapointing postseason since 1992 and it will be the first w.s. i dont watch since i can remember watching baseball,which goes back to 1981 when i was 6.I can remember the yankees/dodgers series,i cant remember watching the phillies/royals in 80 but according to my dad i was watching baseball very early,so i probably did

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10-18-2003, 08:26 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Although I will not be watching the World Series if there is anything else to do (women's professional basketball, minor league bowling), this was in my opinion the greatest play-off season ever - it was almost like getting two World Series in one year.<BR><BR>My first World Series memory is the '68 one with Detroit and St. Louis. Back then they didn't worry about television schedules - the game itself was #1. I had to literally run home every day as soon as school let out (no night games as I recall). Every players seemed to be mythical in that series, no standing and watching HR's leave the park (not with Gibson around!). I would have loved to see Pedro come to bat against Gibson, the inning after throwing behind McCarver's head (but McCarver would have gotten knocked out in my fantasy, developing a speech impediment that kept him from considering a broadcasting career).

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10-18-2003, 08:34 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>.....

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10-18-2003, 11:11 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I won't be watching either unless it is the game where Marlins are going to wrap up The Series. You have to admire the Marlins though. You look at the roster and outside of Pudge, the average fan says, who the hell are these guys.<BR><BR>Jay

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10-18-2003, 01:27 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>Fox's coverage of baseball is the worst suck ass coverage I have ever seen of any major sport. Every damned pitch, they show a close-up ("CU") of the batter's face, CU of the pitcher's face, CU of some clown in the stands, CU of the coach or someone on the bench, CU of another clown in the stands, then the pitcher halfway through the delivery to the batter. If the ball is hit, they may follow it; if not, right back to the nose hair portraits. Where the hell is the baseball game? To the casual observer, there is no one on the field. Ridiculous. What makes it even more insulting is that 90% ofthe CU's are not of well endowed women <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> Honestly, it's just unAmerican to subject us to multiple CU shots of ugly people. I bet replacing the directors at FOx would boost the ratings 10% overnight. <BR><BR>As far as McCarver goes, I agree 100%. As irritating as John Madden on his worst, most cliched and obvious day ("now, on that at bat, the pitcher threw strikes and the batter tried to hit them"; no kidding). Try this: turn off the tv sound and listen to the ESPN radio play by play. Way better commentary.

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10-18-2003, 03:24 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>Outside of having Dan Patrick and Ron Dibble do the game, my second choice is Miller and Morgan on ESPN. I know a lot of people don't care for Joe Morgan but he compliments Miller well as is very knowledgeable. We know how Joe Buck got his job (dad Jack), McCarver is worthless and I didn't like Bret Boone doing his brother's games or Al Leiter who won a WS title with the Marlins doing the Fish's games. <BR>Scott is right, waaaaay too many closeups of certain players faces and not enough of the players themselves and the action on the field.

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10-18-2003, 03:28 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>What would winter be without the grumbling, whining, "why us Lord" moaning of the Sox faithful?<BR>And I'll be the first to post it here, "Why the hell didn't Grady take Martinez out after Matsui's shot?" The Red Sox bullpen could have gotten the last 5 outs with Timlin and Embree going great guns.<BR>Oh well, hope springs eternal. People always talk about Red Sox and Cubs fans being so loyal and alweays having hope. How about those of us who have lived and died with the Minnesota Vikings since their beginning. We are the TRUE sufferers! :-O

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10-19-2003, 11:04 AM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>They just did not know how to use him. I found his explanations of the pitches being thrown to be both coherent and interesting.

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10-19-2003, 11:58 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>he just happens to be obnoxious. The cohesiveness of McCarver's baseball explanations is like 19th century romantic poetry where they tried to make two words rhyme based on spelling as opposed to pronounciation...it just doesn't quite work. Or like trying to figure out what relevance what I just wrote has to baseball. that's McCarverism.

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10-19-2003, 01:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Hankron</b><p>Personally, I've never like three commentators. One good play-by-play and one good color commentator, that's more than enough.

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10-19-2003, 01:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Hankron</b><p>... and I apply that to all sports

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10-20-2003, 06:14 PM
Posted By: <b>W.M.</b><p>The only announcer worse than Mc Carver is Joe Morgan, nearly evrey sentence of his contains "I" or "Me".