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06-12-2003, 04:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Hello all,<BR><BR>After reading and posting here for about a year, I feel moved to start a network 54 appreciation thread. Hopefully other board members will have their own appreciations to add as well. Through the posts I have read, the friendships I have formed, and the knowledge I have accumulated as a result, this forum has become an invaluable resourse for me as a collector of pre-war baseball cards, and I have many people to thank for it. <BR><BR>So here it goes. First off, huge thanks to Elliot, the creator and moderator of this site. Thank you for making it all possible Elliot. <BR><BR>Next is a long list of shout outs. There are the people I have gotten to know on a personal level, people who have deepened my hobby (and non-hobby) knowledge. Thanks to Julie, Scott, Robert S, David R, Andy B, BCornell, Jimmy, Jay Behrens, Lee Behrens, vintagecatcher, Chris (the-illini), Quan, Tbob, Jeff Mckee, Jeff Sackmann, Jeff K, Mike Mcgrail, Mike Plemmons, Dan M, Nickinvegas, Brian H. Oh man, I really hope I didn't leave anyone out! <BR><BR>Next thanks go out to the hobby gurus, the "big fish", who, although I haven't had much personal contact, have still contributed A LOT to the board. Thanks to Jay Miller, MW, Warshlawlaw, Leon, Pete C, BCD, Art M, Scott Brockelman, Brian Weisner, Kieth O, Jeff O, JC, and of course, Bob Lemke. <BR><BR>Y'all may say I'm sucking up, but I figured some thank you's were due eventually. May this board continue to grow and flourish as the locus of vintage cardboard info! You guys rock!<BR><BR><BR><BR><img src="http://www.maskiflynn.co.uk/smileys/this_board_rulez.gif"><BR><BR>

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06-12-2003, 05:25 PM
Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>YES~! Us new guys need a thread like this to show some appreciation...and also to continue badgering these fine folks without feeling guilty!<BR><BR>Much love to Elliot for this board. I wasn't there for the old Fullcount board but thank you for providing the pre-war collectors a safe haven with this one. <BR><BR>Thanks to the mixed bag of tbob, petecld, bcd, wayne, and peter garcia for putting up with my annoying crap and who i consider friends in this hobby. <BR><BR>Special thanks to John/Mike from Fullcount and davidb for all their help and patience...and also Tim Sedlock for saving me money by outbidding me on all the caramels <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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06-12-2003, 07:57 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Well, I'm not happy about this forum. It's partly responsible for bringing an end to being sober and card free for 10 years. Because you all, I fell off the wagon :-p<BR><BR>This place definately a good thing and should be a must read for anyone that already is, or is thinking about colelcting vintage cards.<BR><BR>Jay

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06-12-2003, 09:04 PM
Posted By: <b>julie</b><p>I mean, I wouldn't have anyone to talk to about baseball cards. Or photos. David Rudd is incredibly knowledgable; Ben Fisher has me buying hockey cards, and is the best friend i ever had who's over 40 years younger than I. Or even my age... MW seems to have an unlimited supply of almost everything; Jay Miller always has Old Judges; Scott Forrest and Jay and Frank Ward--hey, I have 14 Scrapps!, Brian H., Andy all have had great stuff I need from time to time. (I KNEW if I started mentioning names, I'd forget someone--I've probably forgotten everyone. Leon and Hal have wonderful collections. Jaime--where would I be without Jaime? (Roasting richly in hell, that's where). And all the rest of you...<BR>And everyone has connections..<BR><BR>But mainly, you're great to talk to...you're all funny and smart and generous...

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06-13-2003, 01:32 AM
Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>T-bob,who although is a devout Democrap knows hella tons about cards and is a purist in his collecting style as well as historically knowledgeable. He knows as much about variations within the "classic" E-T-card sets as any of us amd more.He is also a straight shooter.<BR><BR>Speaking of attornies,Todd the M-card king collector.<BR><BR>RunScott,who also loves history and is knowledgeable on real Vintage players who many have never heard of. His sarcasm wins points too if you need a laugh while being smacked at the same time.He is well written and it is always enjoyable to read his true collectible comments.<BR><BR>Pete,who although deep down loves me,loves vintage cards more as validating by outbidding some of my giant bids on cards I know he will keep until the day he dies........like the E-90-3 Chance in the 5 holder I bid $1201.00 on! lol* I respect his pure love of cards as stated on his web site.<BR><BR>Leon-the ambassador ass kisser of us all who holds hands with everyone at the same time so we can try to get along and concentrate on why we are all here-Vintage Cards. he is honest,friendly and one of the few people on here that actually has good advice on social matters concerning riffs.His type collection is bar none the "bestest*" ( patent Leon word ) for a guy only collecting for about seven years.He does need to dump his Roger Clemens rookie card but hey,we all have one of those right!<BR>Julie,for calling me "Narsty",whatever that means and making me laugh.Julie, I only live 35 minutes from you and would enjoy seeing your collection sometime.<BR><BR>Quan,who although is a pain to NO! end ,loves Vintage cards and does have some nice ones and he pays.<BR><BR>Frank Ward,who knows a lot about obscure issues and should write a small booklet some day. The detail he gives in scans and description will always prove someone that does not believe their card is a reprint is wrong and we have all seen it doen many times.<BR><BR>Greg Shwartz,my favorite "Taz" who puts me to shame when going a few rounds with someone and knows more than most of us about the business aspect of the grading companies as proven by the posts on Dan's situation. Taz is wiser than his years and knows which company to get what card graded at and all the logistics involved.<BR>Lastly, Senior Wentz. He can go on and on for days in argument like an EverReady battery but you would have to admit that he knows a ton more than most,is super bright and is very successful in the business of card dealing.I would call either brother anytime for advise and have.I value both of their opinions highly,even though Brian rubbed the top layer off of my E-94 Evers I had just purchased from him about 14 years ago at a big show and I wanted to bitch slap him for it.I still respect him.<BR><BR>There are a few other's worthy of honorable mention for their knowledge on specific sets and historical passion of the game. This could deserve additional comments later.<BR><BR>

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06-13-2003, 11:48 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>My thanks go out to Elliot and all the rest of the board participators. But contrary to popular belief (BCD) I am not always a "nice" guy. I do always call it the way I see it though. Most of the times correct, sometimes wrong. (hopefully infrequently). I have made some great friendships through the board and there are really almost too many to list. Suffice it to say If I speak with you on the phone regularly it is probably because, in some small or large part, because of the old Fullcount board and this one....btw, I still take great pride in being the absolute first post on this board....maybe besides Elliot <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> good thread.....we should all be somewhat thankful.........regards all

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06-13-2003, 06:16 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>This hobby has been a lot of fun, but mostly because of the people I've met through this board and the auctions. It was very interesting last year at the National to actually meet a bunch of collectors - I was expecting something like a "sci-fi" convention, but those of you who haven't gone to one of these need to - most card collectors are extremely normal and interesting people, and have way above average intelligence. The nights out with you guys were a lot of fun, and I hope to meet more of you this year.<BR><BR>I couldn't begin to list all the friends I have made through collecting and this forum, but it also includes several that I have gotten into heated debates with on this board - hopefully you all will realize that it is too easy sometimes to become, as one person put it, "a keyboard bully", because we don't see each other in person. I have been trying not to "type louder" than others, but please forgive me when I slip.

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06-13-2003, 06:40 PM
Posted By: <b>BCD</b><p>Sounds like a song by Billy Joel *

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06-13-2003, 10:10 PM
Posted By: <b>John(z28jd)</b><p>I appreciate the board just as much as anyone on here and Elliot is so great altho he said i slipped from regular to semi-regular to lurker. I am here everyday at least twice today and on my days off alot more.<BR> The info here is invaluable and i recommend the board to any people i meet who collect cards<BR><BR> I dont know about everyone else,but i plan on buying Elliot a mid grade T206 common to show my thanks at the National.<BR><BR>Note to Elliot only,no one else read below this point:<BR> I did exactly what you said,now please give me my Old Judge cards back

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06-14-2003, 04:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>Greetings,<BR><BR>In the 6 or so months since I have dicovered this board (still pretty much lurker status but I am working on it!), I have been able to buy cards from some of you, sell cards to some of you and create some nice trades with some of you. Making these contacts with you and learning more and more is wonderful!!!<BR><BR>Living in Holland, there are certain "challenges" that I need to overcome in order to feed my old cardboard passion. Over here in windmill land, there are no card shops, no card shows, no publications. As far as I have been able to determine during the past few years, I am the only dude or dudette in this country who collects baseball cards produced before 1990!!!<BR><BR>This board is more than an internet thing to me. It forms a life line to a hobby that I enjoy so much.<BR><BR>Thanks to you all for making this forum what it is!!<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Mike "The Flying Dutchman" McGrail

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06-14-2003, 05:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Nick</b><p>This board shows that there are some good addictions in life and this board is one of them. It is nice to be around guys(and Julie) who are just as crazy about the game of baseball as I am. <BR><BR>The combined knowledge of the board is a great resource for me. I would like to encourage the lurkers who fear they have nothing to contribute to contribute. Almost everyone has something to contribute. Speaking from experience, even if you say something dumb, the board is very hospitable!<BR><BR>Great Thread Ben!!!<BR><BR>Nick<BR><BR>AKA: nickinvegas

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06-14-2003, 05:40 PM
Posted By: <b>deadballera</b><p>This has been a great information source for all of the vintage sets. Even when you are not sure of a particular card, it is refreshing that I/we can ask the board for opinions and get an honest answer. This forum allows us to chat/brag/complain and whatever else we can think of with people of similar interests. I hope this can continue...<BR><BR>Thanks <BR><BR>Todd

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06-15-2003, 03:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>I also want to encourage everyone to participate in our evening and often late night chats. Just click on the link in the top right corner and you're there! <BR><BR>Anybody like the idea of having a board wide chat once a week? Might be fun to have 20 or 30 of us in there all at once...Elliot, didn't you say the record for most chatters at once was 16?

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06-15-2003, 09:50 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I think it ahs come close to 20 on aone or two occasions.<BR><BR>Jay

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06-23-2003, 04:08 AM
Posted By: <b>Adam J. Baxter</b><p>Caution: This is a little sappy! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>First off, I'd like to give a BIG thanks to Elliot for providing the vintage collecting community with this great forum. <BR><BR>I would also like to give thanks to all the collectors on this forum who have been incredibly gracious in sharing both their knowledge and their opinions on all aspects of the hobby.<BR><BR>I have only been a member for a few months and I don't post often, however, I think that this Fourm represents one of the few outlets for honest discussion about vintage cards and memorabilia. In the short time that I have been coming to this forum, I have learned more then I ever thought I would. Every opinion, every argument, every discovery, and every question posted on this forum has made me a better and more knowledgable collector. <BR><BR>In time I hope to get to know each of you better and I hope that as my collecting knowledge expands, that I will someday be as informative and helpful to a newcomer on this forum as all of you have been for me.<BR><BR>It is the strict dedication to collecting and to the sport of baseball by members of this forum that keeps this hobby alive, keeps the bad guys out and keeps the lives and accomplishments of the games past heroes from fading into obscurity. Elliot, you should be proud of what you've started here. This is a special place.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR> Adam

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06-24-2003, 12:24 AM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>The obviuos big THANKS for to Elliott. I caught the tail end of the the Full Count board and that was ugly. This has been so much more reasonable. His nightly visits to the chatroom help to get to know him better along with everyone else that enters the chats. They are educational and sometimes really entertaining.<BR><BR>It is amazing how just by being a contributor to the board I am recognized by SGC, Mastro (Doug, he's been silent lately), and many other people I feel are important in this hobby, which I think is cool, and it certainly can't hurt anything that they know of you. <BR><BR>The best part is getting to know the "common" collectors like myself. I was able to meet and hang out with many in person at last years National and enjoyed that throughly. I encourage everyone that goes to the National to check in with Scott Brockleman, it was nice getiing to put names to faces whether they were collectors or dealers.<BR><BR>There is no better source of knowledge out there and I feel lucky to be a part of it.<BR><BR>Lee (bowlingshoegiverouterguy)<BR><BR><BR>

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06-24-2003, 06:34 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>This is my first post.I guess I'm a "lurker" or vintage information seeker as I read almost everything on this board.I have dealt with a few of you threw ebay and privately.I will be attending the National in July and would enjoy meeting all of you.<BR> <BR>But my post is to thank for the loads of information I receive here daily.<BR><BR>Reguards Jim Rivera (cfc1909)

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06-24-2003, 07:28 AM
Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Thanks to Elliot for providing this forum to all of us. My thanks to those who have provide information to me about sets that I know next to nothing about and to those who allowed me to rant on about the few sets that I do know a little about. Finally, thanks to Julie, Scott, Lee, Leon and all of those who make the board a place that's fun to visit.

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06-24-2003, 09:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Billy Martin, Jr.</b><p>Can't really single anyone out at this time as I've only begun posting in the last couple of days even though I've been reading for months. Each and every one of you "old timers" has been most helpful in your advice. Reading this forum has become one of my daily "things to do". Thanks again.<BR><BR>