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02-14-2003, 11:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd (nolemmings)&nbsp; </b><p>Since Old Judge's are making the threads these days, I'd thought I'd ask how everyone stores theirs.<BR>Mine are almost all bowed somewhat, and while I would really like to see them in SGC holders, 1) they'd all grade out really low and therefore probably would gain nothing in value by being slabbed, and 2)I'm deathly afraid they'd be damaged if "forced" to reside in a slab. <BR>Presently, I keep them in semi-rigids (card saver I), is that good, bad or neither?<BR>Years ago I lost a common trying to carefully slide it ouf of a plastic sheet-- it virtually disintegrated. If my Harry Wright met a similar fate, I am certain I would lose what little is left of my mind.<BR>So, for the bowed OJs, what's a schlub like me to do? Todd

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02-14-2003, 12:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>I keep most of my cards in 15 pocket plastic sheets. I do this because of the number of cards involved and not because I think this is the ideal way to store them. I would think that the best way to store, for both safety and appearance, would be in slabs and my preferred slabber would be SGC.

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02-14-2003, 12:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>who have under 20,000,000 Old Judges, most of mine are entombed in SGC holders with a few in PSA. The remaining ones like poses of Louisville guys I collect that are lower ungradeable, I just keep in toploads for the most part. I used to use the 15 page sheets but found that I really liked the SGC holders.<BR><BR>I had about 15 that I sent to SGC to encapsulate that were bowed. Rather significantly. They did an excellent job when encapsulating them. The majority got SGC30's because there were the initials 'WFS' written in vintage fountain pen on the back. They would have otherwise been SGC50's-SGC60's. I discussed that elsewhere today, so I'm not going to continue to gripe about stuff on the backs........<BR><BR>If anyone needs extra storage space, I'd be glad to store any of anyone else's Old Judges at my house.......

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02-14-2003, 01:10 PM
Posted By: <b>John(z28jd)</b><p>I have all of mine in toploaders except 2.<BR>The 1 that is graded(looks good in a GAI holder) and my first one i ever got is in the 1 inch thick screwdown i put it in the day i got it

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02-14-2003, 01:56 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>So far, so good, but I had one way back when that was so bowed that I didn't like having it in the top-loader.

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02-14-2003, 02:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Could putting your OJ's in screw-down holders possibly help with the bowing? Just a thought...

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02-14-2003, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Yeah, a screwdown helps the bowing. It turns it into a crease <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> Precisely why my Four Base Hits is a 40 and not a 60.....best regards

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02-15-2003, 04:00 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>It was a really nice card too. I gradually worked out the bowing then had SGC grade it. Here's how I did it:<BR><BR>I put the card into a penny sleeve and then into an 8 x 10 rigid top loader. I left it in this laying flat for a month or so. At the end of the month, I put it into a 5 x 7 top loader and left it for another month. The next stop was a standard top loader. After a month or two in there, I put the top loader with the card in it into a screw down holder. The top loader acted as an insert preventing too much pressure from being placed on the card. I kept checking it and when I felt that the card was sufficiently retrained, I sent it into SGC. They do a nice job with the cards, BTW.

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02-15-2003, 07:19 PM
Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>Adam really has a good suggestion here. On several occasions I have "lost" <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> an N172 because I've had it in a holder that flattened it more than it was initially willing to be flattened. Applying slight pressure over time is the best solution.

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02-15-2003, 08:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>and SGC isn't going to damage your cards. They let the bow of the card determine the width of the holder.<BR><BR>Mine will come right OUT of the SGC holders, and go into Mylar sheaths, and then into Vario Liughthouse stockpages, and into albums. Those little suckers are tougher than you think!

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02-16-2003, 09:45 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Lawrie</b><p>I'm always pretty obsessive about holders and storage, but I did find something that I like well enough. I use a product called "Pro Mold, Thicker Card One Screw." Basically, it is a hard plastic screw down with a recessed area in the middle (sized exactly for 1957 and newer Topps). They make a couple of different types - 4 screw, 1 screw etc., plus they have normal thickness, as well as the thicker version that I use. Since many of my OJ's are bowed, I looked around for awhile until I found this type of holder. <BR><BR>First, I take a card slip, trim about 1/8" off the top (otherwise the slip is too tall for the location of the screw in the holder), and then put the OJ in the slip. The card slip is a little wider than the recessed area of the holder, so you have to spend a little time in centering the card and slip in the holder. But once done, the thickness is perfect; the card is barely held in place by the Pro Mold holder, so the bowing is not pressed down, but it is not so loose that it slides around unless you try to move it. Basically a little less pressure than a Topps card in a standard top-loader.<BR><BR>The one-screw holders also fit in the standard shoe-boxes that you would put top-loaders in, so there is not a problem with storage. <BR><BR>I buy them at my local card shop, but they also have a web-site, www.pro-mold.com (as per the packaging - I haven't ever used it).<BR><BR>One note: apparently the company produced two different "Thicker Card" versions. The ones with the single gold screw fit perfectly. The ones with the silver screw have too deep of a recessed area, and the OJs slide all around. So buy the gold screw version.<BR><BR>Just my current obsessive method. <BR><BR>[As for grading companies, I have OJs in both SGC and GAI holders. Both are fine - I probably prefer the look of the SGC holder just a little more, but the GAI holders fit better in generic storage boxes designed for PSA cards.]

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02-16-2003, 12:33 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I just got in a Newsboy with a nice "curve" to it. I am starting the flattening process on it. I'll keep everyone posted on the results. It will probably be a lot tougher than the OJ because it is thicker. I'd figure around 6 months.