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02-14-2003, 08:47 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I have never had one of these although almost bid on one once. I think we have had this discussion before. It's a fake, I believe.<BR>best regards<BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2710700332&category=31719" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2710700332&category=31719</a>

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02-14-2003, 10:24 PM
Posted By: <b>RobertS</b><p>HERE'S A RE-POSTING OF PART OF THE LAST DISCUSSION:<BR><BR>According to Bob Lemke's book, "Sportscard Counterfeit Detector" Kendig never released baseball cards.<BR><BR>Lemke writes on page 35 of his 1994 book:<BR><BR>"These cards should more accurately be classified among the fantasies than true counterfeits bacause the company never issued cards. However, since Kendig's did issue trading cards, and since most collectors and dealers are not all that familiar with legitimate issues of the 1910s, it seems appropriate to include these cards within the body of the book.<BR><BR>"These fantasies/counterfeits were first reported in late 1989, having surfaced at East Coast flea markets. Two players were reported seen on the cards, Babe Ruth and Ray Chapman; others most certainly exist.<BR><BR>"Card fronts were apparently copied from the 1916 Collins-McCarthy 'Baseball's Hall of Fame issue of 200 cards, with the exception that the card number from the originals was not included on the fakes. This might account for the fantasy cards measuring only 3 1/8 inches in length, rather than the 3 1/4 inches of genuine E-135s.<BR><BR>"Backs of the phony baseball cards appear to have been rubber-stamped, reproducing the typography and layout found on Kendig's 'Flags of The World' cards which were roughly contemporary with the Collins-MCcarthy.<BR><BR>"Genuine E-135s have a semi-gloss surface on the front. The purpoted Kendig's baseball cards are printed on porous paper which has been artificially aged"<BR><BR>That said, a few years ago a lot of four fake Kendigs were floating around on eBay, with several winning bidders returning the cards to the seller after seeing them. They were way too thin (with images showing right through) and the ink appeared brand new on the front, although the paper was made to look old. <BR><BR>...[extra stuff removed]...<BR><BR>I just wanted to bring this to light, as Lemke's 1994 Sportscard Counterfeit Detector book is out of print, although it still is listed on Amazon. As such, I assume most of you don't have a copy -- especially since it concentrated mainly on post-war cards (although there is an excellent section on the Babe Ruth Fro-Joys).<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR>

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02-15-2003, 06:34 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I emailed the guy last night when I posted here. He has since cancelled the auction. I believe this board is invaluable for these type of things. NO doubt someone would have bid on that auction and got screwed...best regards all

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02-15-2003, 06:35 AM
Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Leon---Nice Job!