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02-03-2003, 02:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Todd (nolemmings)</b><p>I just bought a mint 1951 blue-back panel of Johnny Mize and Eddie Lopat for what I thought was a great price. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16271&item=2704236495&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16271&item=2704236495&rd=1</a><BR><BR>I found the auction with less than an hour to go, and with no bids (sure hope there's nothing wrong with the item that everyone else but me can see). Did you ever stumble on to an auction and find you just had to act? As a type collector, it's kind of both a blessing and a curse to comb through auctions and find something you don't have and weren't even thinking about just jumping out and begging you to bid.<BR><BR>Anyone else here had that same experience?<BR>Regards.............todd

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02-03-2003, 03:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>When I was just starting out on ebay, I felt the need to bid on an item just because it was a good deal. Naturally, this resulted in my collection having no real order or focus...<BR><BR>Slowly, I've begun to realize that it is more rewarding (for me at least) to save your money for something that contributes to your overall collecting aim rather than spending on something just because it can be had cheaply.

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02-03-2003, 06:54 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>The 1951 Topps "Blue Backs" are a little scarcer than the "Red Backs", but both sets are fairly common compared to other early Topps cards. The Lopat has a high book of $30 NRMT, Mize $65 NRMT. There was a large hoard of unopened packs of the "Red Backs" found in the 1980's, and Ive seen a few packs of "Blue Backs" as well, but they are far scarcer unopened. So there are quite a few NRMT/MINT examples out there from these sets. I believe the 1951 Topps game cards are commonly found in nice shape because of the fact they are made of thick cardboard and have round corners to begin with, and the unopened pack hoard discovery. A similar example is the 1913 WG5 and WG6 game cards that are also found in great shape more often than other cards of the era, mainly because of the diecut round corners, and they were stored for decades in the orignal game boxes in some cases. I have never seen many of the 1951 Topps cards graded, and Ive never seen a pannel graded like that before, though I do see the pannels offered quite frequently ungraded. It will look nice in a type set. Frank

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02-03-2003, 09:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p>The Mize is real tough and you stole this one! Good for you.One good deal in 75 makes it worth searching! I'd buy it.I am on the registry for the set.The blues are a lot harder to find in "9". If you pop it out,send it to pSA and it comes back 9 ( we all know SGC is not the ticket on newer stuff),you TODD will be the winner of a $300.00 panel!!!

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02-03-2003, 10:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>My experiences with pulling the trigger on an item usually has resulted in me overpaying for an item, that said I knoe there have been some Buy Now's that I have pondered over and not pull the trigger only to regret it later. One such BIn was a complete set of 11 the 19th Century cutouts with only the team name and position, they were 4 pieces, 3 connected together on 3 of them and one that had the other 2 connected $400 BIN. I wasn't quite sure about the issue so i restraind but later found out they were worth quite abit more. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>Now for my dumb question, I take it that the 51 Topps came connected with two cards?

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02-03-2003, 10:31 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>I got excited and quickly pulled the trigger on a BIN it was for a T205 Moran with stray line graded by PSA and so labeled. Imagine my chagrin when I got the card to find no stray line and that PSA had screwed up the card description for only the umpteenth time. BINs do get you excited though. I BINed an E94 Lajoie (gold background) from Pete for probably too much but the allure of the cards and its scarcity in that color outweighed my better judgment. Nice card though and one of the few I have that I didn't pop out of the SGC holder.

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02-04-2003, 05:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom B</b><p>about the panels? They were NOT in 'normal' packs because the normal packs had two cards I believe face to face that had already been perforated. I believe that I read once that the pairs were put in with the 1951 Team Cards or the tall Topps All-Stars. Anyone know for sure?<BR><BR><BR>

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02-04-2003, 06:25 AM
Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>Tom,<BR><BR>Both sets were available (in panel form) in a bag with a couple of team cards, and either a couple of Connie Mack All Stars or Current All Stars inside. Red back set bags contained Connie Macks, Blue back bags contained Currents. The 1951 Topps Red backs were also issued in cello form where two player "game" cards were still connected. Typically, there were 16 "cards" (8 two-card pairs) per cello pack. The red cellos were packaged and sold by Trading Card Guild (TCG), a division of Topps for Toys.

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02-04-2003, 10:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd (nolemmings)</b><p>I know how tempting it is to use BIN, but I've resisted all but once. This wasn't BIN, but since I had less than an hour to decide, it felt the same or worse.<BR><BR>Brian, thanks for the remarks, I hope you're right. Actually, when I look at the SMR, PSA has Mize valued at $450 in 9, and SGC at $500 in 96. It might be tempting to see if I could separate the two and pull a mint Mize, but I can't see doing that anytime soon.<BR><BR>Mike, seems from the pop reports that you are right about availability of the two types of full panels. PSA has graded 66 red back panels and only 20 blue backs (no Mize); SGC has graded a whopping 107 red backs and only 5 blue backs.<BR><BR>Just thought this might be one of those cases where I had to go for it. Will cross my fingers until the package gets here.<BR>Thanks again...................Todd

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02-04-2003, 10:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Marc</b><p>where the sum is less than the parts. The panels are so much rarer -- twentyfold at least? But they often don't sell very high compared to some of the singles that are available in super high grade.