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01-28-2003, 05:00 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw&nbsp; </b><p>I just got the N174 OJ card I won a week or two ago on ebay. It is graded 40 by SGC, with a screwed up back. That's not the issue, though, since the front picture is quite sharp. The problem is that the card has a very pronounced taper on the right side. I'd say (with benefit of a ruler) the card tapers from 3.5mm wide at the bottom to 1.5mm wide at the top. It was the first thing I noticed when I got the card. The card edges and corners are uniformly aged, so I think the card was trimmed a long time ago. <BR><BR>If the seller doesn't want to take it back, I'm gonna demand that SGC buy it back. <BR><BR>Since I am computer-challenged, if anyone wants to see a scan, I can email it to them. LMK warshawlaw@aol.com

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01-28-2003, 05:31 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>If I am not mistaking a lot of 19th century cards were hand cut. I think SGC will take that into consideration, as they did the one I just posted on the "type collecting" thread, and go ahead and grade them. I have seen Kalamazoo's the same way...as long as they have the old "crater" look, on the wavy edge, then they will slab them a lot of times....AND before everyone jumps on the bandwagon that I don't have a clue what I am talking about I do have a little experience in this area... Send me a scan to my email if you get a chance. I would like to see it...regards.....

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01-28-2003, 06:35 PM
Posted By: <b>RC_McKenzie</b><p>Sounds like it may be a miscut or diamond cut unless it was trimmed in it's era for non-compensatory reasons..<BR><BR>While I'm posting in this thread. What is the designation of this boxing issue??? Seller says it was printed in Canada.<BR><BR><img src="http://www.britcards.com/images/atc/capfcan/34.jpg">

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01-28-2003, 06:36 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Adam - if you like the card you shouldn't worry about it. I have a Brookly outdoor pose that is VERY thin, but obviously not trimmed. I saw a very similar one the other night on ebay that was slabbed.<BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2700767742&category=31718" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2700767742&category=31718</a>

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01-28-2003, 07:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Mike Williams</b><p>

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01-28-2003, 07:45 PM
Posted By: <b>RC_McKenzie</b><p>I had that on my watch list. Those are hard to find in any grade. I'll give you $150 for it.

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01-28-2003, 07:47 PM
Posted By: <b>RC_McKenzie</b><p>Mike,<BR><BR>It looks like the T218 but it does not have a Mecca or Hassan back. Maybe it's similar to the World Wide/Goudey baseball issues??

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01-28-2003, 08:08 PM
Posted By: <b>RC_McKenzie</b><p>I mean similar to the WW/Goudey 1933/4 in the sense that the T218 set may have been issued in Canada with the same fronts but different backs?<BR><BR>The card says "Champion Athelete and Prize Fighter" but only lists "50 designs" like the T219 pugilists set and has no ad back.

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01-29-2003, 12:15 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>Imperial Tobacco of Canada issued them. They are worth several times their T218 counterparts.