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10-28-2002, 02:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Mike </b><p>I just want to say thank goodness the fans don't vote for the Hall of Fame members, because he would surely get in. A tragedy, yes, but not making him wait the 5 years after retirement puts him with Clemente and Munson( 2 others who were waved the 5 year period) is going a bit far. Any thoughts?
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10-28-2002, 02:44 PM
Posted By: <b>David</b><p>Obviously Kile isn't close to being Hall of Fame material. No disrespect to the Kiles, but I would not think that HOF membership would be based on one's medical printout. One reason I think there is a 5 year waiting period is to prevent this flavor of the month type thing. If there was a voting the day after someone died or hurt his knee (Terrell Davis)everyone would get in. Hell, Ed Sprague would probably be in if a vote was taken after he won World Series MVP.
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10-28-2002, 03:34 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>then Kenny Hubbs, Ken Landreaux, et al are all first ballot selections. No disrespect but just because a player dies while playing, that doesn't get him in to the Hall. Did the Indian players who died in the motorboat accident get listed on the HOF ballot.
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10-28-2002, 04:12 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I don't agree with the waiver myself, but he is elligible to be on the ballot if they waited the 5 years. This doesn't mean his HOF material, but he does meet the minimum requirements to be put on the ballot.<BR><BR>Jay
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10-28-2002, 05:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>I assumed that Kyle was on because of an untimely death, like Gehrig and Munson (was Munson put right on? I didn't know that), and Clemente. I had also assumed, apparently wrongly, that only Gehrig and Clemente were put on immediately because they were shoo-ins, but now i hear about Munson and some Indians (American Indians or Cleveland Indians?), so it's got to be untimely death.<BR><BR>I don't think anyone has to worry about Kyle. I'd be sticking my neck out, but I think he didn't even have a winning record....
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10-28-2002, 07:50 PM
Posted By: <b>Albie O'Hanian</b><p>His appearance on the ballot is done automatically. <BR>"In the rare circumstance where a player passes away during the course of his career, and has played in at least 10 seasons, the normal five-year waiting period is waived and reduced to six months," said Jeff Idelson, a vice president of the Hall of Fame. <BR><BR>
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10-28-2002, 07:59 PM
Posted By: <b>B Hodes</b><p>While Munson didn't have to wait the five years he didn't get in -- and still hasn't mustered the support necessary to gain induction. Kile, as the post above indicated, is entitled to a waiver of the five year waiting period as a matter of course.<BR>Both Gehrig and Clemente were clear 1st ballot Hofers anyway so I think their tragic early deaths did not help them get into the Hall of Fame. I have read that some of the old-timers choosen by the various incarnations of the Veteran's Commitee, did seem have theri candidacies buttressed as a result of either their deaths or their impending deaths...
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10-28-2002, 08:08 PM
Posted By: <b>John(z28jd)</b><p>the 2 Indians who died in the spring training accident were steve olin and tim crews and neither played the 10 year minimum required for hall of fame election.Bob Ojeda was also in the accident but he came back later in the year to pitch in what was a very emotional moment at the time.During the next off-season,another Indians pitcher,Cliff Young was killed in a vehicular accident<BR><BR>And not saying Kile is a serious HOF candidate but he DID finish with a winning career record contrary to what someone thought,133-119,and he pitched a no-hitter vs the hated Mets which i still have on tape to this day from the original broadcast
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10-29-2002, 08:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd (nolemmings)</b><p>that the normal period is waived in the event of death during the playing career. I'm not sure why they have such a rule, as it may lead to a vote-in based on passion rather than performance, but, remarkably, they didn't ask my opinion.<BR>regards........todd<BR>P.S. TBob, Ken Landreaux did not die during his career, although it may have seemed that way to some of us once he left the Twins. I think Ken is still alive and well, and that you may be thinking of the late Lyman Bostock.
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10-29-2002, 03:54 PM
Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>P.S. TBob, Ken Landreaux did not die during his career, although it may have seemed that way to some of us once he left the Twins. I think Ken is still alive and well, and that you may be thinking of the late Lyman Bostock.><BR><BR>Yes, I was. So many good (or great like Carew) Twins players were bolting for Southern California in the late 70's and early 80's that it is hard to keep track of them all.
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10-30-2002, 12:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Daniels</b><p>and of course the only player known to have died of AIDS* Glen Burke