Private auctions question

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Posted By: <b>David&nbsp; </b><p>During a private eBay auction, can the seller see the bidders' identities? If not, how does it work?<BR><BR>This is a matter of curiosity, as I've never run or bid in a private auction on eBay.

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>Yes

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Posted By: <b>Dan Mathewson</b><p>Only The Seller can see the bidders identities, David. <BR><BR>The advantage here is that the Seller can sell fake garabge on eBay and many unsuspecting bidders will fall into it. An onlooker will not be able to warn them by contacting them and telling them the truth about the cardboard being sold (or whatever medium the garbage is made of). <BR><BR>For the Seller, a Private Auction can be like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Posted By: <b>Dr.Koos</b><p>..you to step in and criminally tamper with ANY and ALL Private auctions, or just MY auctions?

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Posted By: <b>Dan Mathewson</b><p>Someone needs to get inside your head and help you out. How do you come about drawing the conclusions that you do? <BR><BR>After reading what you just posted above, I finally know that your rantings are factless and without merit. I don't go anywhere near your auctions unless someone mentions one of them here. Then, I merely go look at it (and usually laugh). I would NEVER bid on one.<BR><BR>I hope you named ME in your mystery lawsuit...that will be a hoot. I have not done anything to any of your auctions, other than question the value and authenticity of some of the things in PRO Holders, which I do here at Network 54...and, I will question ANYONE (not just you) that auctions "crap" yet labels it "silk".<BR><BR>You just posted above, directly alluding to ME "tampering with your auctions now or in the future" and that is utterly ridiculous. I don't touch private auctions because, more often than not, they are shills.<BR><BR>Your random accusations and threats toward people in this forum is boundless and random, dude. Get a grip.

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Posted By: <b>Todd (nolemmings)</b><p>1. a seller in a private auction could see the identity of his bidders, including those who he believes wrongfully tampered with his auction;<BR>2. he could either recognize the bidders' names as people with whom he has dealt before, or use his status as powerseller to invoke Ebay's help in further identifying them;<BR>3. he would then by reverse implication know who did not engage in the so-called tampering; SO THAT<BR>If he intentionally and falsely accused someone of tampering who he knew did not engage in such conduct and similarly accused them of engaging in criminal activity, he would (in at least Arizona and probably in all common-law states)be potentially liable for slander per se. <BR>Just the musings of a private citizen bored and too broke to go to the National, and who was not depressed about that until Julie brought it up in another post.

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Moreland</b><p>Private auctions make it difficult to spot tampering and difficult to warn bidders.<BR><BR>Warning bidders, however, is a violation of eBay's rules.<BR><BR>If you warn a bidder, and they forward your mail to the seller asking for comment, the seller could forward that to Safe Harbor, at which point you may be toast.<BR><BR>I've watched for a long time as people talk about warning bidders off of auctions. Almost all the time, there is good reason to do this, but there have been a few times when I've thought the person essentially warned someone not to have poor taste, or got the facts wrong and warned someone off a good auction.<BR><BR>So many people hate Dr. Koos that I expect that someone would warn people off of his auctions no matter what he tried to auction.<BR><BR>Charles, how many emails did you get about Dr. Koos?<BR><BR>bruce<BR>

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Posted By: <b>Dan Mathewson</b><p>When I contact bidders in an auction, i usually do it in an "informative" manner...<BR><BR>I'll say things like: "hey, it looks like a lot of people are talking about this item in this auction as being a FAKE. You may want to take a look here at this link and see what you think... Just a friendly heads-up!"<BR><BR>I'm not telling them what to do, I'm just passing on information. I'm not even interfering with an auction. Passing on public information can't be a violation... At least, for me, it hasn't been yet.<BR><BR><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dr.Koos</b><p>...and The Gold Power Seller Investigative team can see it as well and their name for it is an "Auction interference incident". You only ASSUMED they couldn't see it because you can't. Nothing to worry about though, after all, as you said earlier, Ebay does NOTHING with complaints and rule breakers in general. Tamper away!

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>whole thread could disappear at any time, so make a copy if you care. I won't be.