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02-15-2002, 05:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p>I received a "T5 Pinkerton" recently - it's a postcard-sized picture of R. Hoblitzell (the famous T205 Hobby) on thin stock. I'm pretty sure it's not a real T5, but am wondering if this is just a reproduction or something else and when it was issued. The seller says he bought this card from Bill Mastro in the late 70's and was told it was "valuable" - I think what I have is just a nice-looking postcard.<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1013780262.JPG">
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02-15-2002, 06:31 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom</b><p>I have 6-7 mounted T5's and the pictures are VERY thin stock. I've seen postcard type T5's with blank backs and postcard type divided backs that I feel pretty confident are of vintage manufacture. I don't know the specific card catalog designation for them but I'm sure they are probably legit. Does this one have a blank back or any other marks?
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02-15-2002, 06:50 AM
Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p>Thanks for responding, Tom. The back on this Hoblitzell is blank - there are no marks of any kind. Looking at it now, I think it's not a postcard, as it's too thin.
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02-15-2002, 09:52 AM
Posted By: <b>rick</b><p>I have seen several "real" pinkerton t5 photos unbacked and several t5 originals mounted on all kinds of cabinet stock. Interestingly enough I have seen several of the postcards with the pinkerton images and player name and number that appear to be vintage but not actually a sepia pinkerton photo. I will say I just saw a Cobb pinkerton type postcard that was actually postmarked 1910 . What this actually means to me is that the vintage looking postcards that are pinkerton photo images are vintage from the same time period as the actual photo.
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02-15-2002, 10:39 AM
Posted By: <b>David</b><p>There are 'Pinkerton' postcards-- Pinkerton photos reproduced on the front. As opposed to a real photo, the postcards have a dot structure under a magnifying glass. They come with or without (blank) a postcard back. They were made circa 1918. They aren't nearly as rare or valuable as the actual Pinkerton photos or cabinets (the photos can occasionally be found without the mount), but are vintage and nice postcards.
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02-15-2002, 03:16 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw707</b><p>Hi, I have owned a couple of these Postcard Pinkertons, both of mine have a scorecard back, and are very vintage. I have seen them listed as ca.1912 "W530 Pinkerton Photo Postcards" in the past, so thats what I call them. Im not sure where the W530 comes from, as my old ACC doesnt show a W530 listed. Here is a picture, hope it works. Frank<BR><img src=http://members.aol.com/kealoha707/t5wagnersc.jpeg><br><img src=http://members.aol.com/kealoha707/t5wagnerscb.jpeg>
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02-15-2002, 03:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p>Looking at the Hoblitzell using a 10x loupe, I can clearly see a dot pattern on the picture, so I guess it's a late 1910's copy. I doubt it was intended to be used as a postcard, given its thinness - probably just a reproduction of the original.<BR><BR>That Wagner below makes me jealous!<BR><BR>Bill
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02-15-2002, 05:22 PM
Posted By: <b>Wade</b><p>Does anyone have any T-5 Pinkerton scans? I am looking for the Wolter, but have never seen it.<BR> Wade<BR>