OT Help identifying basketball?

[NATCARD]

I have a customer that has 20 or so of these. They are black and thick pretty thick cardboard. They appear to be cut from a box or something like that. The size varies from 2x2 to 3x2 to 4x2 or so.
https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/chamberlain.jpg
https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/chamberlainb.jpg
https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/Lucas.jpg
https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/Lucasb.jpg
https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/wilkens.jpg
https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/net_54/wilkensb.jpg

[Exhibitman]

Those are indeed cuts from a box. Called the "1969 NBAP Member" cards by PSA. Per PSA:

"The 1969 NBAP Members basketball set, once again, break from the norm and measure approximately 2-3/4” by 4-1/2”, though variations in size may appear. Each card features a black-and-white photo of the player in-action on the court, or posed before a blank background surrounded by a light blue border with the player’s name and N.B.A.P. member printed in black at the bottom. Because the cards don’t display the NBA logo, it is assumed that the league may not have sanctioned the set and the cards were potentially hand-cut from basketball shoeboxes such as Converse. These unnumbered, blank-backed cards may have been distributed in the early 1970s as it includes Kareem Abdul Jabbar, but also Bill Russell, who retired after the 1968-69 season. This relatively unattractive, but scarce 20-card set (though more may surface) is anchored by the likes of Hall of Famers Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, John Havlicek, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell and Jerry West among others."

The Chamberlain is supposed to look like this:

https://images.psacard.com/s3/cu-psa/cardfacts/1969-nbap-member-wilt-chamberlain-hand-cut-vg-3-90705.jpg?h=1000&format=png&s.roundcorners=10

They are pretty hard to find. The ones shown are really hacked up (no better than "A" grade) but still valuable. Last one looks like Len Wilkens.

[rjackson44]

some rare basketball adam hi are these tuff ??

[bobw]

Found these online

https://www.postwarcards.com/1969-nbap-members-basketball-card-set-and-checklist/

https://i0.wp.com/www.postwarcards.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NBAPToyBox01.jpeg?w=500&ssl=1

https://i0.wp.com/www.postwarcards.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NBAPToyBox02.jpeg?w=500&ssl=1

[dfletch00]

[QUOTE=Exhibitman;2302611]Those are indeed cuts from a box. Called the "1969 NBAP Member" cards by PSA. Per PSA:



Those are (cut way down) NBAPs indeed .... I have had several and still kept a few graded from SGC ... they are indeed rare .. I auctioned off a few a couple years ago ..

Supposedly cut from shoebox but I have also heard from an actual basketball box ... many HOFs ... couple folks at the national and I talked about them this past year national...

thanks

[Exhibitman]

They're not easy. Been looking to add a Chamberlain to my collection for some time.

[NATCARD]

The (16) NBAP cards I have are going up for auction tonight for 1 week on Ebay. My user id is NATCARD. They start tonight at about 10pm. Jeff W

[slidekellyslide]

That box was mine. I obtained it at a local auction without a basketball in it for just a few bucks. I kept it intact for a few years and tried to sell it as is. I had no takers. I came home one day and found the box on the floor with my cat inside it. He had torn a few of the cards so I cut the cards out and sent them all to PSA. For reasons I don’t know PSA graded about half the cards as Authentic and gave number grades to the other half.