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Casey2296
09-21-2022, 06:23 PM
As an image collector there are certain cards that elevate past a simple baseball card to what I consider fine art.
It's very subjective but I'll post a few of mine that speak to me, lets see some of your favorite images.
And if you have any of Graig Kreindler's work please post up, that is a great example of Baseball as Fine Art.
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Rhotchkiss
09-21-2022, 07:44 PM
Cool thread Phil. Here are two of my favorite cards/images (neither are mine). I also think the T3 set is the most beautiful of all the sets
HercDriver
09-21-2022, 07:45 PM
Don't have it handy, but the 1953 Topps Satchel Paige...
Cheers,
Geno
Casey2296
09-21-2022, 07:53 PM
Don't have it handy, but the 1953 Topps Satchel Paige...
Cheers,
Geno
Agreed, 53 Topps has some great images. Mantle, Mathews, Berra, Paige, to name a few. Was really the last year where fine artists rendered images of baseball players.
https://i.imgur.com/g9Kinyf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/d5ep068.jpg
This Speaker happens to be an E90-1, but it's an art piece within any of the different sets.
https://i.imgur.com/ImqiHmf.jpg
Casey2296
09-21-2022, 09:02 PM
The 49 Leaf Williams is classic, one on my wish list, thanks for posting.
Johnny630
09-21-2022, 09:18 PM
1953 Topps Willie Mays
Jeff_cvc
09-21-2022, 09:30 PM
I'm not a collector of art, but these are some of my favorite images
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michael3322
09-22-2022, 04:50 AM
For me, this image really is fine art...
jingram058
09-22-2022, 05:16 AM
If you want to truly know what constitutes "fine art", get your wife or girlfriend or otherwise get a female to give her opinion. It is widely known that men have exceptionally bad taste
rjackson44
09-22-2022, 05:32 AM
Diamond stars
x2drich2000
09-22-2022, 05:41 AM
Cool thread Phil. Here are two of my favorite cards/images (neither are mine). I also think the T3 set is the most beautiful of all the sets
Based solely on aesthetics, T3's are either 2nd or 3rd to me. I think the N142's are slightly better and M110 are right there with them.
https://live.staticflickr.com/4822/31039256887_21a75ff624_h.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51088534296_01209881ea_h.jpg
Really great looking cards, guys. I have always thought the orange, psychedelic backgrounds are good looking on this series.
ps...that '50 Jackson, above, is a stunning card. wow..
Aquarian Sports Cards
09-22-2022, 06:30 AM
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/EvMAAOSwd85iKnx5/s-l1600.jpg
3-2-count
09-22-2022, 06:50 AM
As much of a fine art image as you'll find in my opinion! Iconic pose!
https://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/15cjcobbfrontnone.jpg
ullmandds
09-22-2022, 06:53 AM
If you want to truly know what constitutes "fine art", get your wife or girlfriend or otherwise get a female to give her opinion. It is widely known that men have exceptionally bad taste
I've known plenty of females with terrible taste in art!!!!!
Either way...mass produced baseball cards will never be considered "fine art!"
They're super cool...and can be quite beautiful...imo.
Maybe an original painting used to create a card...or a type I photo whose image was used on a card...might be considered "fine" art?
But cards? NO!!!!!
icurnmedic
09-22-2022, 07:40 AM
[QUOTE=ullmandds;2266333
Maybe an original painting ……
But cards? NO!!!!![/QUOTE]
I suppose we will agree to disagree on this point.
Cards are not only artistic but also very visceral . Man they bring back memories and to me this is what art is all about.
campyfan39
09-22-2022, 07:41 AM
https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1460&pictureid=33541
https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1460&pictureid=33542
3-2-count
09-22-2022, 07:41 AM
Cards are not only artistic but also very visceral . Man they bring back memories and to me this is what art is all about.
100% agree.
ullmandds
09-22-2022, 07:49 AM
I suppose we will agree to disagree on this point.
Cards are not only artistic but also very visceral . Man they bring back memories and to me this is what art is all about.
i'll agree with you on this point too!!!!
Rad_Hazard
09-22-2022, 08:07 AM
Most of my collection are some of my favorite pieces of art as well. I'm glad you brought that up or I may not have noticed. I just naturally gravitated toward these pieces for my collection...
cgjackson222
09-22-2022, 08:35 AM
Beautiful art shown so far. Here are some of my faves from the Pre-War, and Post-War eras.
skelly423
09-22-2022, 09:16 AM
Not pre-war, but I'm sure you'll let this one slide.
rats60
09-22-2022, 12:24 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/1855/44520365861_2a4b00d6f6.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2aQ7vGR)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51212415962_f213d615cc_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m2t241)
jcmtiger
09-22-2022, 12:52 PM
My Detroit T3 baseball set is art.
jcmtiger
09-22-2022, 12:56 PM
9/1/1985 Original Art from the Detroit News. Ty Cobb
fkm_bky
09-22-2022, 01:34 PM
My top 3:
Bill
GasHouseGang
09-22-2022, 02:06 PM
Some favorites.
Excuse the old washed out cell phone photo.
My favorite piece of my baseball collection.
Aaron Seefeldt
09-22-2022, 02:55 PM
Photos are also artwork and many times they’re unique images.
jcmtiger
09-22-2022, 03:02 PM
Photos are also artwork and many times they’re unique images.
Love those photos, what’s the history about these?
Aaron Seefeldt
09-22-2022, 03:10 PM
Love those photos, what’s the history about these?
Leonard A. Young, was an accomplished polo player and owner of The Detroit Polo Club. He also created an experimental line of golf clubs and golf balls for noted golfer Walter Hagen. Both Hagen and Young were members of the Detroit Athletic Club, as was Ty Cobb. It was through Hagen that Young was introduced to Cobb and they became friends. While the details have been lost to time, it is the family's understanding that these large-format photos of Cobb were presented by Cobb to Young as a gift of friendship. For decades they hung on the wall in Young's office, each a proud embodiment of his valued friendship with the legendary "Georgia Peach."
campyfan39
09-22-2022, 03:39 PM
Anyone who says 56 Clemente isn’t art is welcome to give me theirs to rid themselves of such an unartistic work.
https://live.staticflickr.com/1855/44520365861_2a4b00d6f6.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2aQ7vGR)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51212415962_f213d615cc_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m2t241)
yanksfan09
09-22-2022, 04:02 PM
My two full size Kreindler pieces!
The 3 bat image is actually bigger, these not to scale.
I've known plenty of females with terrible taste in art!!!!!
Either way...mass produced baseball cards will never be considered "fine art!"
They're super cool...and can be quite beautiful...imo.
Maybe an original painting used to create a card...or a type I photo whose image was used on a card...might be considered "fine" art?
But cards? NO!!!!!
Didn't/don't some artists produce prints of their original works to distribute/sell to the public that are thus mass produced, at least in a limited sense, as well?
JLange
09-22-2022, 06:34 PM
Art indeed.
Rhotchkiss
09-22-2022, 06:42 PM
Photos are also artwork and many times they’re unique images.
Awesome photo, clearly it’s from where this famous pose/card came from
ValKehl
09-22-2022, 09:22 PM
I'm rather surprised that no one has yet shown the the absolute finest piece of art on a baseball card. I only wish I had a better-condition example to show.
One of the finest works of art in the hobby. I have always thought so...,
https://luckeycards.com/tyt205.jpg
bnorth
09-23-2022, 11:26 AM
I tried a few times but couldn't get a better picture of these cut card artwork pieces. These are 11 X 17 inches each and is 35 X 47 overall. They are made by fellow member John English and look amazing in hand.
I recently had him make the Big Z and need to get a frame for it yet. It is 17 X 22. I plan on getting 2 more strongmen pieces made 11 X 17 each so I can put one on each side.
GeoPoto
09-23-2022, 11:52 AM
I hate not having the card (lot of swings and misses on high fast balls), but this mozaic by Caraher helps me cope while I wait for the next pitch.
https://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=535477&stc=1&d=1663955216
https://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=535478&stc=1&d=1663955231
GasHouseGang
09-23-2022, 12:37 PM
One of the finest works of art in the hobby. I have always thought so...,
I started to show my T205 Cobb, but I had a feeling you were going to post yours, and that card is such a beautiful copy.
T206Collector
09-23-2022, 12:45 PM
Tanner Jones made this custom booklet card for me...
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51137480770_c7f4025667_b.jpg
irishdenny
09-23-2022, 12:53 PM
I'm rather surprised that no one has yet shown the the absolute finest piece of art on a baseball card. I only wish I had a better-condition example to show.
Although I might be one to say that Mr Johnson is the Greatest of All Time...
I'm more partial to this Gentleman ~
rgpete
09-23-2022, 07:41 PM
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RCMcKenzie
09-23-2022, 11:29 PM
1953 Topps Willie Mays
I had not opened this thread, but assumed it was about the Leland's auction of the art for the 53 Mays. I read in the description that Marriott bought it at the Guernsey's sale for $88,000 and later gave it to a charity. It sold it for $246,000.
BioCRN
09-24-2022, 03:32 PM
Who could forget the artistic peak of the W512 set?
The W512 Ty Cobb is a particular gem. It shows the not-heavily documented part of his career when he was also a Batman villain.
Rhotchkiss
09-25-2022, 10:30 AM
Who could forget the artistic peak of the W512 set?
The W512 Ty Cobb is a particular gem. It shows the not-heavily documented part of his career when he was also a Batman villain.
This is very funny!! Thanks for the Sunday laugh
Who could forget the artistic peak of the W512 set?
The W512 Ty Cobb is a particular gem. It shows the not-heavily documented part of his career when he was also a Batman villain.
That reminded me of the '51 Bowman Richards card. True art. (loving the new scanner, btw)
JackR
09-25-2022, 07:26 PM
Cards or art?
tlhss
09-25-2022, 08:49 PM
My initial interest in Japanese menko cards was the art. Probably not everyone's taste, but I've really enjoyed them.
skelly423
09-27-2022, 09:54 AM
This is a modern card, but will fit in nicely with this crowd. I think it's stunning.
I need a better copy but have always liked this one.
anchorednw
10-03-2022, 01:27 AM
I'm partial to these fine portraits from T206.
CobbSpikedMe
10-03-2022, 11:27 PM
I need a better copy but have always liked this one.
Leon,
Here is another very similar piece to the Ratsch Peerless postcard. I've always liked both of them as well.
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Leon,
Here is another very similar piece to the Ratsch Peerless postcard. I've always liked both of them as well.
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Don't think I have seen that one. Very cool.
Cy hasn't been shown in a few days. The card really is a simple work of art, as are most E90-1s, in my view.
brianp-beme
10-06-2022, 04:31 PM
No self-respecting thread about baseball cards as fine art should exist without the preeminent example of the artistic vanishing point technique as seen on the 1933 Goudey of Paul Richards.
Brian (and now I have to go down the hall and across the campus to classroom 307 in the Eccles building and learn about preeminent Greeks from Professor Frank in his Ancient Mediterranean History 201 class)
Also, not my card, as this original example is likely hanging in a museum.
Maybe this is not exactly "fine art" by definition, but it's one of the favorites in my collection dedicated to the Fidrych rookie card. The artist is Scott Silvers, who I discovered in this thread on Net54 years ago: Old thread on Scott's work (https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=155414)
https://i.imgur.com/IlhWUD9.jpg