Back Run Bonanza!

[fkm_bky]

Let's see your active and completed back runs! It's been a while since we've done this and I always love seeing what people are working on...and why.

I've been working on the Herzog Boston backrun for about 2 years now. He and I share the same birthday, and I really like the pose.

Almost all of these were acquired via the BST. The best damn place to buy and sell pre-war cards.

Bill

[MuncieNolePAZ]

WaJo- Greatest pitcher ever and we also share a birthday. Got a good portion of these from this board. Many thanks.

Chad

[ullmandds]

i also love that herzog pose...probably partially because of large ass!!!! There are some great runs on this board. Here is my pride and joy...thx to many of y'all out there for the help!!!!

[x2drich2000]

I have 2 I'm working on at the moment, the Young shown in the Sept pickup thread and the Davis. I started the Young do to having a couple of the key ones when I was doing sets and freaks (Nadja, blue, E78) and the rest seemed pretty easy from there. The Davis is one of my favorites cards in the E92 set.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52354195365_3b80f6a172_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48750440241_d1f5d900eb_b.jpg

[Casey2296]

Amazing runs guys. Fledgling start on my Bender back run.
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[atx840]

Fantastic runs everyone. Haven't added to this one in a very long time.

https://live.staticflickr.com/5537/10860629204_42e376918d_h.jpg

[ullmandds]

thats a beast of a run, Chris!!!

[gabrinus]

Awesome guys!!!...Jerry

[Rhotchkiss]

This is going to be an amazing thread. I am working on, and have substantially completed, but do not have the time or patience to post right now:

E92 et al: Wagner Batting, Wagner Throwing, and Cobb on bat
T206: Tinker bat off, Evers Yellow Sky, Chance Yellow portrait, Speaker
D304: Cobb

I think back runs are awesome. I also think they are generally terrible investments bc we often (over)pay what we must to get some combos that only matter to us. That can be somewhat mitigated if you collect the better players.

These are great runs guys, congrats! Keep’em coming

[DeanH3]

Matty black cap.

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1044&pictureid=26586

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=27470https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=27469

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=26936https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=26937

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=28954https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=28953

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=28887https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=28886

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=30959https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=669&pictureid=30960

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=27243https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=669&pictureid=27244

[DeanH3]

Small WaJo Portrait run

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=28378https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=28376

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=24426https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=24428

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=22710https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=22712

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=10126https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=16134

[DeanH3]

WaJo Pitching

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=27876https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=27875

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=27795https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=27794

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=27508https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=27507

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=22947https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=22948

[DeanH3]

Young Portrait

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=25561https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=25560

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=22646https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=22647

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=10124https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1128&pictureid=16132

[Vintagedeputy]

I'm probably the one guy on this website who doesn't really care all that much about backs. I collect the cards for the player on the front, lol.

[Rhotchkiss]

Great cards Dean!

[fkm_bky]

So true! 😂 But I can’t help myself!

Bill


I think back runs are awesome. I also think they are generally terrible investments bc we often (over)pay what we must to get some combos that only matter to us. That can be somewhat mitigated if you collect the better players.

These are great runs guys, congrats! Keep’em coming

[Casey2296]

I'm probably the one guy on this website who doesn't really care all that much about backs. I collect the cards for the player on the front, lol.

You're not wrong Jim, back runs are definitely a rabbit hole. The problem is when you come to this sub, Leon and his pre-war henchmen start feeding you the drug in small doses and before you know it you find yourself working on a Master Set, High grade Set, Back Runs, Dark obscure type collections that only you, a guy in Ohio, and 3 members here know about.

There really should be an outfit that is a combination of Cult deprograming, collectors anon, and intensive therapy.

Hi, my names Phil and I collect little pictures of men in uniform...

(Group) Hi Phil, welcome to the group, would you like a Diet Coke and a cigarette?

[docpatlv]

Eddie Collins…

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpatlv/eddiecollins/large/1909-11zzzT206CollinsRun_1.jpg

[ValKehl]

Phil, here's another from the "rabbit hole." Thanks to Bryan L. for creating this presentation of my back run, which unfortunately, I haven't been able to add to in a good while:

[brass_rat]

you find yourself working on a Master Set, High grade Set, Back Runs, Dark obscure type collections that only you, a guy in Ohio, and 3 members here know about.

:D hahaha, so true

And the worst of it is, sometimes you know that guy in Ohio exists, but you can't find him. :eek:


Btw, great cards everyone!

[Casey2296]

Very nice Val, the PVE is incredible.

[DeanH3]

Great cards Dean!


Thanks Ryan!

[doug.goodman]

I've got to say that I am fascinated by these back run collections.

Great stuff.

Thanks for posting.

Doug

[Marslife]

One More to Go!

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[Vintagedeputy]

you're not wrong jim, back runs are definitely a rabbit hole. The problem is when you come to this sub, leon and his pre-war henchmen start feeding you the drug in small doses and before you know it you find yourself working on a master set, high grade set, back runs, dark obscure type collections that only you, a guy in ohio, and 3 members here know about.

There really should be an outfit that is a combination of cult deprograming, collectors anon, and intensive therapy.

Hi, my names phil and i collect little pictures of men in uniform...

(group) hi phil, welcome to the group, would you like a diet coke and a cigarette?

i must resist!!!! :)

[fkm_bky]

Impressive runs guys! Love seeing them all. What back are you missing on the Marquard?

Bill

[scooter729]

Couple that I've worked on - getting cost prohibitive to add much more on these right now for me!

[DeanH3]

Nice ones Scott. Love the Matty run. Of course, I'm a little biased. :)

I agree that it's getting too expensive to add anymore. I've definitely stalled out.

[Marslife]

Impressive runs guys! Love seeing them all. What back are you missing on the Marquard?

Bill

Missing the Lenox Brown back :-( there are a couple of them floating around, there is a fella on the board here that has one and as soon as I save up enough dough or cash out my 401K it will remain in his possession :-)

[skelly423]

I love these posts, you guys have some awesome stuff in your collections, and this just speaks to me. I don't have anything to my name worth sharing in this thread, but may have to take some steps to address that.

[53toppscollector]

really impressive posts in this thread. back runs are a labor of love, some are easier than others, but when we are talking about cards that are 100+ years old, sometimes even the "commons" can be tougher to find.

I was working on a T206 Krause Portrait back run and had all of the non-very rare backs, excluding the SC 350/25. After looking for months, I just gave up. That was around the time I decided I was going to alter my goal and go for a 520 set. As I've been accumulating cards for the 520, I've decided my secondary goal is going to be to collect sub-sets of the non-super rare backs. For example, the 34 card SC 150/649OP set and a 250 card Polar Bear set. Those will still take a lot of time and money to complete, but I think for me, it will be more satisfying to spend $3000 on 55 Polar Bear backs for a subset instead of spending $3000 on a low grade Carolina Brights card to complete a player back run. If my budget was on par with some of the budgets other board members here have, I would have a number of back run projects in the works. For now, gotta make due with what I have.

[atx840]

Amazing runs everyone, love the non-T206 ones, seeing some cards/backs I never knew existed. :eek:

James the 649 OP subset was the first subset I completed, very fun project.

https://live.staticflickr.com/8422/7770191906_ce15d038f8_b.jpg

[David R]

Also have a blank back HOFer

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[MuncieNolePAZ]

My Red Cobb back run. A Terrible Beauty was the first baseball biography I ever read. I was hooked on Cobb ever since and baseball biographies.

Chad

[stutor]

Also have a blank back HOFer

534271

This is sooooo cool! Thank you for sharing.

[atx840]

Amazing David, congrats! :eek:

[ValKehl]

Very nice Val, the PVE is incredible.

Thanks, Phil. I think Leon will agree with you, as I was fortunate to win this PVE of Jennings some years ago in Heritage's auction of Leon's first collection.

[Luke]

Great thread, love me a good back run! Some amazing cards shown already.

I've started probably 20 different back runs and always ended up buying a tough low pop card I had to have and deciding to sell the common backs from the run.

It's cool to see David R's HOF back run again. I didn't remember your name but your collection stuck in my head and after I knocked out a lot of the rare backs, I decided to copy your idea. This is one back run I think I'll finish. I still have a few to get. There are 37 backs in my run and 36 HOFers in the set. So I'm planning to make one collage that has my best cards and then another one that tries to fit all 36 HOFers in. That is a project for another day that I haven't started trying to figure out yet.

[fkm_bky]

Love those Cobb’s, Chad!

Bill

[atx840]

Amazing Luke, you have most of the tough ones, Young BL/RH and Speaker Drum are fire :cool::cool:

[53toppscollector]

Amazing runs everyone, love the non-T206 ones, seeing some cards/backs I never knew existed. :eek:

James the 649 OP subset was the first subset I completed, very fun project.

https://live.staticflickr.com/8422/7770191906_ce15d038f8_b.jpg

Absolutely love that, they look so lovely displayed like that.

[David R]

Luke
You have some great ones! I had a really hard time finding a BL460 HOFer and had to settle on condition. You found a great one. Lots of super tough cards. My goal was to get all the backs with a different HOFer on the front and to include all the Cobbs, Mattys, Youngs and Johnsons.
David R

[frohme]

When I quit everything but T207 in 2012.

https://imageevent.com/gspinf/earlypittsburghcards/tobaccoissues/t206byplayerwideview

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Love those Cobb’s, Chad!

Bill

Thanks Bill!

Some amazing collections here. Always enjoy this type of thread and it is nice to finally contribute.

[deucetwins]

Here's mine so far.

[t213]

I still need a T213-1 to complete the Greminger run.

Andy

[tedzan]

A neat "short-n-sweet" back run. Lundgren (Cubs) was printed with only 3 backs.

I've included my "blue-less" Lundgren printing error card to complement this run.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/alundgren4versions.jpg
.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/blundgren4versions.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[53toppscollector]

Nice Greminger run, Andy. That Red Sun back is amazing. You wouldnt happen to have an extra copy of his T206 OMSL back, would you? :cool:

[MVSNYC]

Man this thread is "En Fuego"! Super fun!..I'll try to post a few things later today.

[tedzan]

Let's see your active and completed back runs! It's been a while since we've done this and I always love seeing what people are working on...and why.

I've been working on the Herzog Boston backrun for about 2 years now. He and I share the same birthday, and I really like the pose.

Almost all of these were acquired via the BST. The best damn place to buy and sell pre-war cards.

Bill


Hi Bill

You have a great run there. Herzog (Boston) is one of my favorite T206 cards, too.

I once owned this Herzog, then I sold it to David Hall. If I still had it, I would offer it to you. Since David auctioned off his master set, this Herzog
is somewhere out there. Here's hoping you will eventually end up with it.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/UZITHerzogSGC45.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/HerzogUZITx37b.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tedzan]

At the 2007 Philly Show in Reading, PA, Toby (bigfish) made my weekend, by selling me this Frank Delahanty DRUM card. Finally, I completed this A - B - C - D run.
I'd been searching for this DRUM for many years. I have yet to see another one, since I acquired this one. Yes, it is a "unique" T206.

On display here is my first AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/FrankDelahantyABCDx50.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/FrankDelahantyABCDx50b.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[t206kid]

Here are a few of mine!

[Casey2296]

Great run(s) Jay.

[53toppscollector]

Jay, those are awesome.

VCP only has 3 total sales in the last 12 years of the WaJo Drum. A PSA 4 sold in 2019 for $75k. That one is a crossover from a previous SGC 4, I believe. There is also a PSA 1.5 out there missing a corner. Super tough card, hope you can eventually find one to complete your run

[tkd]

So much time and effort into these runs! Incredible!

[ValKehl]

The back runs in this thread are fantastic! I'm really enjoying all the colorful eye candy! But, it is said that variety is the spice of life. So, for variety, here's a black & white back run from the master set of Sam Rice cards that I'm working on. If anyone can help me add to this back run, kindly PM me.

Note: In the last group of cards there are two adjacent cards with blank backs. The first card is readily recognized as a W501 Type 1 because it has "G-4-22" and card number "14" printed on the top border. The second card card is a W501 Type 2, which is identical except for the absence of printing on the top border.

[MVSNYC]

Does a "front run" count? ;)

[Rhotchkiss]

F-ing AWESOME Val!!!

[brass_rat]

F-ing AWESOME Val!!!

Well said, Ryan!

Awesome Rice and Jennings runs, Val!

[tedzan]

On display here is my first AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/FrankDelahantyABCDx50.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/FrankDelahantyABCDx50b.jpg




From my experience working on T206 and T205 runs, I gained an appreciation for certain printing patterns of the T205 cards.
Examples of these are....

1st.....American Lithographic printed exactly 32 - T205 subjects with the A - B - C - D connection.

2nd....HINDU cards and DRUM cards are Mutually-Exclusive.

3rd....The A - B - C - D cards and the T205 AMERICAN BEAUTY (Green) cards are Mutually-Exclusive.



Harry Wolter is one of the 32 subjects printed in the A - B - C - D group. I believe this Wolter run is complete with 11 cards.

Therefore, I am still looking for his HONEST LONG CUT back.



V----------------------------------- AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection (A - B - C - D) -----------------------------------V

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/ABxT205WolterX.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/BroadLeafT205Wolter.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/CycleDrumT205WolterX.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HarryWolterABCDxPdPBSvSCb.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HarryWolterPiedmont25.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/PBxSovSC42WolterT205.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/Hassan649x30WolterXx.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/Hassan649x30WolterBx.jpg
Factory #649 ........................... Factory #30


Stay tuned for more T206 and T205 back runs.


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[MuncieNolePAZ]

The back runs in this thread are fantastic! I'm really enjoying all the colorful eye candy! But, it is said that variety is the spice of life. So, for variety, here's a black & white back run from the master set of Sam Rice cards that I'm working on. If anyone can help me add to this back run, kindly PM me.


That is incredible Val! Certainly wish I could help you on that run.

Jay, even though I have saved that picture and seen it several times, it still amazes me each time. I do love collecting WaJo, but would still be amazed regardless.

Chad

[tedzan]

Misplaced post.

[gonzo]

Here's a T205 Bobby Wallace run, including a blank back "with cap" and a "no cap" Polar Bear miscut with another Wallace to the left.

[tedzan]

Ted Breitenstein is my favorite T206 Southern Leaguer card.

He started his Major Lge. career pitching a No-Hitter on October 4, 1891. Although he Walked a batter, the next batter hit into a D-P.
Therefore, in effect, it was a "perfect" game, since he only faced 27 batters.

And near the end of his Major Lge. career, h pitched another No-Hitter.....April 22, 1898.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/BreitensteinOMxHINDUxP350xCOUPON.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/BreitensteinOMxHINDUxP350xCOUPONb.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[ValKehl]

Ryan, Steve and Chad, thanks for the kind words. These back runs were much fun to put together.

[tedzan]

This 1910 COUPON run was a very tough one to complete (and quite expensive). I'd hate to think what it would cost in these days.


Six Super Prints

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910couponcobb50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910COUPONredCobb75xb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910CouponChance.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910CouponChanceBx.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910couponmattyeverschase.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910couponmattyeverschase25xb.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910COUPONchasedkcap38x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910COUPONdkcapChase50b.jpg



Note....the Chance card is now in Ryan's collection.


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tedzan]

Here is one of my favorite T206 runs.

American Lithographic divided the 46 subjects in the 460-only series into 2 print groups. This McGraw was printed in the Exclusive 12 group. Each of the 12 subjects in this group
were printed with 13 different backs. And the 13th card, the UZIT, was a lucky number for me here.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawRedHINDUsgc.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawGloveUZITxSGC30.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawGloveSweetCapFactory30xx12.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawRedHINDUsgcB.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawGloveUZITxb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/McGrawSC42xSC42optSOVxPd4xPBxx.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/McGrawSC42xSC42optSOVxPd4xPB.jpg
Factory #42.....................Factory #42



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawEPDGxTOLxAB460xOM.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/McGrawCYCLE460x18.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/McGrawEPDGxTOLxAB460xOMb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/McGrawCYCLE460x18b.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[Justus]

Is there a website to look up all known backs of each T206 card?

[tedzan]

Click on this website for a wealth of information (Series breakdown, printing methods, history, etc.) regarding the T206 set......
T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)

Click on this link for Checklists of the T206 cards as a function of their Tobacco Advertising backs......
T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists (https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=290064)


TED Z
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[T3s]

Alas, the band is no longer together.

[Jay Wolt]

Craig that Cobb trio is breathtaking

[ValKehl]

In response to many requests (I wish! :D) to see another real-photo, black & white back run, here's my WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose. Surely, someone else has a b & w back run to show.

I'd very much like to add to this back run. Will purchase or trade. Have good stuff to trade, such as T206s of WaJo with scarcer backs (e.g., Am. Beauty, Cycle, Old Mill, Piedmont 42, Sovereign, Tolstoi, etc.) and tough type cards (e.g., G & B Gum, 1910 All Star Base-Ball, D304 Martens, Western Playground, etc.).

[fkm_bky]

That Johnson run is amazing! Thanks for sharing!

Bill

[tedzan]

This OLD MILL card of Hal Chase is my very 1st T206....which I acquired at the Willow Grove Show in March 1981.
Till this day, I still continue collecting Hal Chase cards.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/1stT206Chaseblue50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/1stT206Chaseblue50xb.jpg



A - B - C - C - D connection
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/T206ChaseQuintuplcate75x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseABxBLxCOxCYx25.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T206DRUMx50bx.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/achasep460fac42.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseEPdGP350P3x4Sov350Sov460.jpg
. . . . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/ChaseP460factory42b.jpg . . . . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseEPdGP350P3x4Sov350Sov460b.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseSC3x4F30xF42x42ovPBxTol.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseSweetCap350Fac30.jpg

.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseSC3x4F30xF42x42ovPBxTolB.jpg
Fac. #30..................Fac. #42 ................Fac. #42




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseRedHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseRedHINDUx50b.jpg




I acquired this very rare LENOX Chase from a Net54 member in a trade (circa 2011). In recent years, I traded it to Chris Browne.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/BlueChaseLENOX.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/BlueChaseLENOXb.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tedzan]

And, my Chase "obsession" expands into these subsequent White-Bordered cards (T213-2, T213-3, T214).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/1914COUPONChaseBuffalo50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/T213x2x3blueChase50.jpg

. . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/ChaseBuffaloT213x25b.jpg . . . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T213x2x3blueChase50b.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/avictorychase.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/bvictorychase.jpg
(reprint)


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[Casey2296]

Johnson run is incredible Val. Ted, the sheer volume of your runs is amazing.

[MuncieNolePAZ]

In response to many requests (I wish! :D) to see another real-photo, black & white back run, here's my WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose. Surely, someone else has a b & w back run to show.

I'd very much like to add to this back run. Will purchase or trade. Have good stuff to trade, such as T206s of WaJo with scarcer backs (e.g., Am. Beauty, Cycle, Old Mill, Piedmont 42, Sovereign, Tolstoi, etc.) and tough type cards (e.g., G & B Gum, 1910 All Star Base-Ball, D304 Martens, Western Playground, etc.).

Incredible Val!

Chad

[Pat R]

Sorry that you weren't able to get the Uzit Herzog Bill.

Here's my Conroy batting partial back run I'm missing three the Drum, Brown Lenox and PD350-460/25. I just haven't picked up the PD350-460/25 yet a couple of Drums have come up in auctions but they're out of my price range so I probably won't get that or the brown Lenox but I do have a SC350-460/30 "no print".

https://photos.imageevent.com/patrickr/bstforsale/Conroy%20Run%20-%20Copy.jpg

I'm also working on a front run I have 20 of the 29 confirmed Sweet Caporal 350 factory 30's with the large sheet numbers on the bottom.

https://photos.imageevent.com/patrickr/bstforsale/Factory%20Sheet%20number%20group%20-%20Copy%20_2_.jpg

[tedzan]

Johnson run is incredible Val. Ted, the sheer volume of your runs is amazing.


Phil.....Thanks for your complimentary words. I really appreciate them.


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tedzan]

Here is a different type of run which enables us to better understand how American Lithographic printed certain groups of cards.
I refer to them as the "Red Ink Twins". Exactly 47 pairs.....35 subjects in the 350/460 Series plus the EXCLUSIVE 12 subjects
in the 460-only Series. The remaining 34 subjects in the 460-only Series were not printed with these 2 backs.

EXCLUSIVE 12 subjects......

Tannehill was my first pair of T206 "Red Ink Twins" that was acquired many years ago.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedInkTwinsTannehillB.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedInkTwinsTannehill.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedHinduCrandallA.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedHinduCrandallB.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsCrandall.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsCrandallB.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/DevoreRedHINDUxSGC30.jpg------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsDevore.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsDevoreB.jpg
. . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/DevoreRedHINDUxSGC30b.jpg





http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedHinduDuffyA.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedHinduDuffyB.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsDuffy.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsDuffyB.jpg





http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedInkTwinFordB.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedInkTwinFord.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12FordRHx50b.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12FordRHx50.jpg


Note.....this display continues into the next two posts, since Net 54 posts are limited to 18 scans.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

EXCLUSIVE 12 subjects......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12GandilRHx50.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsGandil.jpg . .

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12GandilRHx50b.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsGandilB.jpg . .




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12SheckardRHx50.jpg----http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/GeyerRedHINDUx50.jpg

. . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12SheckardRHx50b.jpg---------- http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/GeyerRedHINDUx50b.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsGeyerSheckard.jpg----https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsGeyerSheckardB.jpg





https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedHinduHummel50.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedHinduHummel25b.jpg----https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsHummel.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsHummelB.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/RedHinduMcGrawX.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedHinduMcGrawB.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsMcGraw.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsMcGrawB.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tedzan]

EXCLUSIVE 12 subjects......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/WheatRedHINDUx50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedHinduWheatB.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinWheat.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinWheatB.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12PfefferRHx50.jpg------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsPfeffer.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsPfefferB.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12PfefferRHx50b.jpg


TED Z

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[chriskim]

Let's see your active and completed back runs! It's been a while since we've done this and I always love seeing what people are working on...and why.

I've been working on the Herzog Boston backrun for about 2 years now. He and I share the same birthday, and I really like the pose.

Almost all of these were acquired via the BST. The best damn place to buy and sell pre-war cards.

Bill

Impressive Herzog run, Bill!

This guy has a miscut Herzog that you need.

https://youtu.be/pLlwL1qBcPo

[tedzan]

The guys in the 350/460 Series group (35 subjects) are considerably tougher to find with the red HINDU backs, than the Exclusive 12 group.
It is a long-term work in progress. I have a few of them from this Series. This Hal Chase and the Mike Donlin are my "Red Ink Twins" favorites.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseRedHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ChaseRedHINDUx50b.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsChase.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/RedInkTwinsChaseB.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/DonlinRedHINDU.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/DonlinRedHINDUbx.jpg------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/DonlinSweetCapFactrory42.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/DonlinSweetCapFactrory42Bb.jpg

Checklist…...

All 35 subjects have been confirmed with the SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 back in the 350/460 series.

To date, 32 subjects have been confirmed with the red HINDU back in the 350/460 series.

Baker
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chase (blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)

Magee (bat)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (batting)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (fielding)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
CYoung (glove)

The following 3 subjects have yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back. I expect all 3 will eventually be discovered.

Ames (hands above head)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Reulbach (no glove)


TED Z

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[ValKehl]

Bill, Phil and Chad, thanks for your kind words re my hands-at-chest WaJo run. In response to no requests to see another real-photo, black & white back run, here's my WaJo with the throwing pose. I'd love to add a couple to this run!

Note: In the last group of cards there are two adjacent cards with blank backs. One card is readily recognized as a W501 Type 1 because it has "G-4-22" and card number "17" printed on the top border. The other card card is a W501 Type 2, which is identical except for the absence of printing on the top border.

Ted, of all the great cards you've shown in this thread, the card that really knocks my socks off is your T214 of Chase.

[npa589]

Always one of my favorite types of thread - great work everyone.

This is a 6 year old picture, and it's on my list of things to do to redo this and add all of the cards I have added to this grouping - but for now it'll do!

[fkm_bky]

Always one of my favorite types of thread - great work everyone.

This is a 6 year old picture, and it's on my list of things to do to redo this and add all of the cards I have added to this grouping - but for now it'll do!

Awesome display Nate! Thanks for sharing!

Bill

[atx840]

They say patience is key in this hobby :cool:

Waited ten years to add a new Chase to the run.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52994115229_ffc9a43608_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52994339475_536886b8f4_h.jpg

[ullmandds]

Awesome run chris!!! Def a waiting game at the latter stages!!

[docpatlv]

Incredible run Chris! How many do you still need?

[fkm_bky]

Congrats Chris! Beautiful card!

Bill

[brass_rat]

Awesome, Chris. Congrats!

[Rhotchkiss]

Congrats Chris! Beautiful card!

Bill

+1

[Casey2296]

Amazing Run Chris, congrats.

[itjclarke]

Not sure how I missed this thread its first time around, but glad it got bumped. Some amazing stuff here.

I finished my Duffy run a little while back.
576711

And Matty is a work in progress... though not sure how much more progress I'll make.
576712

[MuncieNolePAZ]

They say patience is key in this hobby :cool:

Waited ten years to add a new Chase to the run.



Incredible. Congrats Chris!

Chad

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Added several WaJos to my run since the last time I posted and created a graphic with help from Jamie and Jay.

Thanks
Chad

[Golfcollector]

Great thread, love me a good back run! Some amazing cards shown already.

I've started probably 20 different back runs and always ended up buying a tough low pop card I had to have and deciding to sell the common backs from the run.

It's cool to see David R's HOF back run again. I didn't remember your name but your collection stuck in my head and after I knocked out a lot of the rare backs, I decided to copy your idea. This is one back run I think I'll finish. I still have a few to get. There are 37 backs in my run and 36 HOFers in the set. So I'm planning to make one collage that has my best cards and then another one that tries to fit all 36 HOFers in. That is a project for another day that I haven't started trying to figure out yet.


UZIT Crawford......(drooling here in Nebraska.....)

Awesome collection!

[atx840]

Not sure how I missed this thread its first time around, but glad it got bumped. Some amazing stuff here.

I finished my Duffy run a little while back.


Love the Duffy run! One of my first attempts at a run (EPDG not shown) and interestingly enough I traded the RH to acquire the Chase blue port Lenox.

Just noticed your Cycle 460 & OM are the same cards in my old run :)

https://i.imgur.com/ARxrFIR.jpg

[itjclarke]

Love the Duffy run! One of my first attempts at a run (EPDG not shown) and interestingly enough I traded the RH to acquire the Chase blue port Lenox.

Just noticed your Cycle 460 & OM are the same cards in my old run :)

https://i.imgur.com/ARxrFIR.jpg

Thanks Chris! Landing that Cycle was probably what started me seriously thinking about completing the run, after I had started it all with an AB, purchased off BST 10+ years ago.

I'm pretty sure I got my Cycle through Sterling, maybe 8-9 years ago(?) Curious, did you consign it there? Regardless, those are some amazing cards/runs you've put together.

[brianp-beme]

I have shown these Cravath cards before, but I finally arranged them into a proper run format after an agonizingly ridiculous resizing of existing scans session.

I am calling this incompletely complete, missing just the near impossible (both availability and potential price, at least for me) Carolina Brights back. Three of them could use some upgrading, but it is likely that I will only go after an upgrade on the relatively common Sweet Caporal factory 30 card.

Brian

[Texxxx]

Still have the Uzit to go. Another one might show up some day since I dont think Ted is going to turn loose of his.

[ValKehl]

Way to go, Chris and others! I know all about long waits for back-run needs!

[MVSNYC]

Awesome thread. The only player run I'm working on is Hal Chase Blue Portrait. But, I think this'll be more interesting to post...All 38 different backs (sans Cobb)- all brands, series, factories, and color variations. I posted this recently in the Brown Old Mill thread (thanks again Ryan!), but thought it might be fun to repost it here...

[Rhotchkiss]

Mike, that is one awesome pic. It’s so cool to see all backs, including series and factories, in one place.

I know we disagree on this, but if you get bored or want to continue growing it, maybe you add t213, T214, and T215, down the line since they have same fronts as t206. And… a blue old mill :eek:

[MVSNYC]

Thanks so much, Ryan. That's means a lot coming from you. There's definitely room for upgrading condition (i.e. the BL 350, or Red Hindu, for example), and there's opportunities to upgrade some of the commons to HOFers.

Good idea, I'm certainly not opposed to that. Post some of yours! (T213, T214, and T215)

[MR RAREBACK]

Matty Hindu run

[MVSNYC]

That's a helluva Matty Hindu run! Show more of your rare backs when you can.

[atx840]

My jaw hit the floor :eek:

[tedzan]

My favorite T205 is Miller Huggins. I have included him in my Yankees collection. Huggins had a keen eye for talent. As Manager of
the Yankees (1918), he persuaded Col. Jacob Ruppert (Yankees owner) to acquire Babe Ruth from Boston in 1919.

The T205 Huggins is one of the few guys in the Exclusive 32 group that was printed with the PIEDMONT Factory #42 back.
The PIEDMONT Factory #42 back is very difficult to find on this Huggins card.

The DRUM back for Huggins has not yet been confirmed. However, since he was printed with the brown AMERICAN BEAUTY back, I
expect his DRUM card will eventually be discovered.

Furthermore, I also need a HASSAN Factory #30 to complete this run. If any of you have a HASSAN #30 Huggins for sale....please
email me..... tedzan11@comcast.net


. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205Piedmont42.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsT205Piedmont42bx.jpg



V--------------- brown AMERICAN BEAUTY ------------------------------- BROAD LEAF ------------------------ CYCLE ------------------- DRUM (A - B - C - D) -------V
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ABMillerHugginsT205.jpg . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/BCDxT205Huggins25x.jpg
. . . . . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205ABbx.jpg . . . . . . . . . . . . .https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/BCDxT205Huggins25bx.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsHonestLongCutT205b.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsHonestLCPiedmont25.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205Piedmont25b.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsPBSovSweetCap42.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsPBSovSweetCap42b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[destijl03]

The runs in this thread are breathtaking to me. So impressive and so aesthetically pleasing.

Apologies if this has been asked before, but are the red Cobb portrait and blue Chase portrait the cards with the most possible back combos? Based on TCDB, it looks like the red Cobb has 30 possible combos if you count the Ty Cobb back, 29 if you don’t count it. The blue Chase also has 29 possible combos. Evers with Chicago on shirt has 28 and the Matty dark cap has 26. So is 30 confirmed to be the most?

[atx840]

Well back in June I had picked up the Carolina Brights after a ten year gap and wildly enough was able to acquire two more in July/August.

Down to the T214 Victory, which there is one and it is sitting in THE best Chase collection out there, so for now I'm calling the run done.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53184311069_1625834a7b_k.jpg

[ullmandds]

epic run chris! i love the complete coupon type subset!

[fkm_bky]

Congrats Chris! That is an amazing accomplishment!

Bill

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Well done Chris!

Chad

[RCMcKenzie]

Great back run, Chris. I guess T215 1 and 2 and Pirate are unknown, but possible for Chase port?

[Leon]

Nice run there, Chris. Now for a Victory....
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[Rhotchkiss]

Chris, congrats on an amazing back run. The don’t get tougher than a t206 super six, especially one with a BL 350 and 460. Incredible accomplishment

[doug.goodman]

The runs in this thread are breathtaking to me. So impressive and so aesthetically pleasing.

One of my favorite threads...

[calvindog]

Oof!


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50899154731_cb13962b64_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kxMtpi)

[Casey2296]

Congrats Chris, amazing run.

[atx840]

Oof!


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50899154731_cb13962b64_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kxMtpi)

There it is! Beauty Jeff :eek:

[Luke]

incredible accomplishment Chris, congrats!

[notfast]

My favorite T205 is Miller Huggins. I have included him in my Yankees collection. Huggins had a keen eye for talent. As Manager of
the Yankees (1918), he persuaded Col. Jacob Ruppert (Yankees owner) to acquire Babe Ruth from Boston in 1919.

The T205 Huggins is one of the few guys in the Exclusive 32 group that was printed with the PIEDMONT Factory #42 back.
The PIEDMONT Factory #42 back is very difficult to find on this Huggins card.

The DRUM back for Huggins has not yet been confirmed. However, since he was printed with the brown AMERICAN BEAUTY back, I
expect his DRUM card will eventually be discovered.

Furthermore, I also need a HASSAN Factory #30 to complete this run. If any of you have a HASSAN #30 Huggins for sale....please
email me..... tedzan11@comcast.net


. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205Piedmont42.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsT205Piedmont42bx.jpg



V--------------- brown AMERICAN BEAUTY ------------------------------- BROAD LEAF ------------------------ CYCLE ------------------- DRUM (A - B - C - D) -------V
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/ABMillerHugginsT205.jpg . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/BCDxT205Huggins25x.jpg
. . . . . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205ABbx.jpg . . . . . . . . . . . . .https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/BCDxT205Huggins25bx.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsHonestLongCutT205b.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsHonestLCPiedmont25.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205Piedmont25b.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsPBSovSweetCap42.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsPBSovSweetCap42b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference ( http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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Very very cool.

I looked at the 3 t205 cobbs I have a they all have different backs. What’s the best way to go about finding what backs even exist for Cobb? Besides browsing auctions and just putting together a list that way.