Off topic COVID-19 vaccines

[jcmtiger]

My wife & I are over 70 yrs old. 12/30/20 we camped out for 10 hours to get our 1st vaccine. Have to get 2nd dose in 3 weeks. They started an appointment by phone for this weeks vaccine. 80,000 calls , 5000 vaccines were gone in 3 minutes. What is happening in other states. This is in Lee County Florida. Joe. Leon you can delete if you like

[tmw2ward]

My Dad got his in Florida two days ago!

[jcmtiger]

Good news.

[ullmandds]

as a dentist in MN...I'm waiting to hear when I can get it...as well as my 80 yo mom...no news yet?

[biggsdaddycool]

as a dentist in MN...I'm waiting to hear when I can get it...as well as my 80 yo mom...no news yet?


This is just hard to take.


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[biggsdaddycool]

I don’t understand how people in the medical field and their at risk family members aren’t already done. This should have all been planned out while we were awaiting the vaccines or approvals.


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[ullmandds]

I don’t understand how people in the medical field and their at risk family members aren’t already done. This should have all been planned out while we were awaiting the vaccines or approvals.


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i totally agree...certainly before some AHOLE politicians who denied covids existence got it! Personally I think the military should have been enlisted to aid in the delivery.

[egri]

I got it today in Virginia. The arm I got it in is a bit sore, but other than that no ill effects. I figure if it works, great, if not, it was worth a shot (no pun intended) and if it turns out like I Am Legend, then I get to be a zombie.

[Peter_Spaeth]

4.66 million doses so far according to the Bloomberg tracker which is fairly current. Weren't we supposed to be at 20 million by now? Clearly there are major logistical and other issues so far with the rollout. On the other hand, at least in the mainstream news there aren't reports of widespread catastrophic reactions.

[ocjack]

Over 70 in SoCal. Haven't received any info yet. And I sure hope they consider grocery workers essential. Because they are.

[biggsdaddycool]

i totally agree...certainly before some AHOLE politicians who denied covids existence got it! Personally I think the military should have been enlisted to aid in the delivery.


I thought the military was supposed to be involved. Ugh.


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[Exhibitman]

I am considered at risk due to being a fat, wheezy f**k. I asked my MD today about it and he said they are still waiting for guidance and methods for prioritizing. Meanwhile, LA is ground zero right now.

Returning to my hiding place under my bed now.

[jfkheat]

I would think that having to be stored at -90 would make shipping a bit more difficult. Even after it is shipped not a lot of places have somewhere on site large enough to store tens or hundreds of thousands of doses

[atx840]

Wife is a frontline nurse, likely she will get hers here in January, me and the kids are likely a few months out (we live in Canada).

[bnorth]

Have not got mine yet, hopefully soon. In South Dakota Phase 1 is 5 priority groups. I am in group 4, they are doing group 3 now. My wife is in group 3 so she got her first dose 5 days ago.

Phase 2 is supposed to be the general public.

[kmac32]

I am an essential employee (veterinarian) and my wife is immunosuppressed from drugs after a doible lung transplant. We live in Florida and they are vaccinating health workers and 65 year old plus people. No word on when either one of us will be eligable. Seems like no real rhyme or reason for giving vaccines.

[Natswin2019]

Both my house mates have gotten the vaccine because they work in a hospital. They both got them shortly before Christmas and are gonna be getting the 2nd round soon. I work in the food service industry and haven't heard anything about getting the vaccine yet. Both my parents have yet to hear anything as well and are both pushing 60. This is all in Central VA

[mantlefan]

I'm an Internist and my wife is an RN here in Nassau county, NY. We're scheduled for our vaccines on Thursday 1/7/21.

[BRoberts]

Seems like no real rhyme or reason for giving vaccines.

Are you serious?

[pokerplyr80]

I'm working from home and barely leave the house these days. I don't mind waiting my turn. I have no idea how, where, or when they're being distributed out here in OC.

[glchen]

The States are supposed to take care of the distribution, and I don't think they have a clue on how to do this. I'm in California, and I don't know what Gavin Newsom is doing. It should be like what Ben said for South Dakota where people are assigned to Priority groups. My parents are over 75, and I have no idea when they can get the vaccine. I read about Florida where folks had to call in or sign up for an appointment online, and had to call over 100 times and still didn't get through. That's idiocy but still better than California.

[Eggoman]

I'm in my late 50s and live in Western NY. I got COVID over Thanksgiving.

LUCKILY and THANKFULLY, I was only REALLY sick for 4-5 days, didn't give it to anyone (that I know of), AND have fully recovered!

I'm happy that I will be at the end of the line now so that folks who REALLY need it can get the vaccine "sooner" - whatever THAT means.

My Next-Door neighbor is a High School Nurse and she STILL has NOT been vaccinated!

[ALBB]

This whole thing was addressed too late,

[chalupacollects]

I don’t understand how people in the medical field and their at risk family members aren’t already done. This should have all been planned out while we were awaiting the vaccines or approvals.


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The feds let each state work through their own logistics after they rejected the military option.

Most states notably New York were not prepared (and they had months to do it) even after the governor wrote a book on how it should be done. In NJ they botched it because they couldn't get the paperwork in on time...

I'm sure there are other state by state horror stories out there...

As one manager always put it - "you could look it up"

[Seven]

I'm in NY, I know multiple health care workers/professionals who have gotten the vaccine. I believe I'm 2nd in line after them because my job is considered High Risk.

No Clue when any of my other family members will get it

I rarely talk politics on the internet, just not good for anyone's Mental Health in my opinion. This Should've all been handled by the Federal Government. I understand how the nation works, and that you want each state to have its rights but when you have 50 states wanting to do 50 different things, it just makes things vastly more complicated.

In 47 we were able to effectively distribute the Polio Vaccine, we should've just followed that Model. I'll end my little spiel on that here.

Hopefully by June/July a majority of the population will be vaccinated.

[Klrdds]

As a dentist in NW Georgia I am getting my vaccine this week or next week . So far no problems in our area to get vaccines for those who need it .

[autograf]

In Kentucky.....my wife is a nurse and got hers a couple weeks ago. Her second dose is scheduled for 1/12. She had a sore arm and a queasy stomach the second day with some lethargy but nothing bad and no assurance it was due to the shot.

I can assure you the kits to administer and the vaccine itself is being diligently distributed. I'm in planning at UPS and we have most of the distribution East of the Mississippi and I get daily emails of how many shipments are going through the system. We're getting individual shipments for hospitals and clinics and larger freight shipments for counties and larger groups of materials to administer the vaccine.

Seems like what happens when it gets to its destination is where the changes come into effect. I have heard a lot of people would have wanted a federal response on administering and a lot of states would have pushed up against that. Not sure what is better or worse but it seems like we're behind the guns on where we planned to be.

[notfast]

In 47 we were able to effectively distribute the Polio Vaccine, we should've just followed that Model. I'll end my little spiel on that here.

Can’t compare this vaccine distribution to that of polio. At all. They aren’t even remotely similar.

[edhans]

My wife works for a doctor and is getting vaccinated this afternoon. I'm retired and "only" 64, In decent shape with no underlying conditions, so I'm perfectly content to wait my turn.

[buymycards]

My wife works at a Nursing Home. They are finally getting their vaccines tomorrow. A team from Walgreen's is coming in and giving the vaccines to all of the patients and all of the employees.

[Seven]

Can’t compare this vaccine distribution to that of polio. At all. They aren’t even remotely similar.

I meant to say Smallpox, I have my years mixed up. I know it's radically different, there are more strains of this virus it's mostly just wishful thinking on my part though. I'm just asking for a comprehensive plan that every state would follow. It feels like we're all lost at sea. No guidance.

I care little for what side of the aisle the plan comes from. We need to come together as a nation and figure out the best form of an attack to put an end to this pandemic.

[bundy462]

My Mom is an ICU nurse in Austin, TX and was vaccinated about a week ago, so 2 more weeks or so until the second shot. She had the Pfizer vaccine. No issues, described it as similar arm soreness as you'd have with a flu shot.

My wife and I received an email from our doctor's office (maybe 2 weeks ago) that stated they will be responsible for prioritizing their patient's pecking order based on occupation, health conditions, other risks and we will hear from them when it's our turn.

We live just North of Austin in Cedar Park.

[58pinson]

I've been expecting them to make a dog's dinner out of this whole thing and it seems that's what is happening.

I have a preference for the Moderna vaccine - if I can get it.

At 72, with a penicillin allergy, I'm trying to find info regarding whether I should be concerned with a negative reaction - lots of luck.

In NJ it seems I'm in group 1c. When I'll be able to get it seems to be up to "vaccine availability".

Meanwhile I read three days ago that 70% of the vaccine supply New Jersey has been given has not been used!!

[jcmtiger]

Well, good luck everyone, hope to get my 2nd vaccine in a couple of weeks. Right now they say they have no plan, but working on it. In Florida, Lee County. I guess I am not surprised by the comments.

[Casey2296]

I have a friend who's a nurse in Hawaii and connected to the Police Dept. 60% of the cops turned down the vaccine. Unbelievable.

We asked our pharmaceutical companies to come up with a vaccine in record time, and they did, the Federal government funded their ability to do that. The least the States can do is pull their head out of their ass and take care of their States citizens. I live in the highest tax state (ca), not one public service announcement or public health text, no plan for distribution at all. These are people that our state tax dollars pay for their jobs and cushy retirement benefits and yet when they are called on to do their jobs they fail miserably. And people are still dying at an alarming rate. Shame on them all.

[wnp22]

Bit of a cluster here in TN as well. My county has been doing frontline medical workers and first responders. Supposed to be starting vaccinations in congregated living settings this week. They closed up the drivethru sites they had because people that weren't supposed to be getting the vaccine yet were getting them. They're retooling their plan on that front, and I have hope they'll get it sorted out (though not a ton of hope).

As for me, the current timeline has me somewhere between March and May, based on how many vaccines they get. I'm young, but fall into one of the comorbity groups.

Best wishes to all of you guys. Hope everyone is staying safe and we can enjoy a nice second half of this year once they've vaccinated a ton of people.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I have a friend who's a nurse in Hawaii and connected to the Police Dept. 60% of the cops turned down the vaccine. Unbelievable.

We asked our pharmaceutical companies to come up with a vaccine in record time, and they did, the Federal government funded their ability to do that. The least the States can do is pull their head out of their ass and take care of their States citizens. I live in the highest tax state (ca), not one public service announcement or public health text, no plan for distribution at all. These are people that our state tax dollars pay for their jobs and cushy retirement benefits and yet when they are called on to do their jobs they fail miserably. And people are still dying at an alarming rate. Shame on them all.

Perhaps your governor is too busy planning his next meal at the French Laundry.

[BobbyVCP]

Spoke to my friend in Hawaii yesterday, he is a shrink so a Doc...he works online only. He got a call from the county to come in for a shot, then a follow up from the CDC. Does he really need a vaccine?

I would think it more important to send the vaccine to these hot spots and try to get as many people in those areas instead of a person on a small island of Kauai with no cases.

Seems all messed up

[CardTarget]

I have a friend who's a nurse in Hawaii and connected to the Police Dept. 60% of the cops turned down the vaccine. Unbelievable.


How many of that 60% already had it? I would guess a good amount. In that case turning it down is noble, not crazy.

[Casey2296]

How many of that 60% already had it? I would guess a good amount. In that case turning it down is noble, not crazy.

None.

[irv]

Spoke to my friend in Hawaii yesterday, he is a shrink so a Doc...he works online only. He got a call from the county to come in for a shot, then a follow up from the CDC. Does he really need a vaccine?

I would think it more important to send the vaccine to these hot spots and try to get as many people in those areas instead of a person on a small island of Kauai with no cases.

Seems all messed up

Exactly. Shouldn't these be given to the most vulnerable first? I am 56 and in good health with no comorbidities so my survival rate, if I even get it, is at 98%. Please tell me why this is being given to healthy young people and not those who are at the highest risk? Many in the health field are refusing it, and to be honest, I don't blame them. I'm not even 100% sure when it becomes available to me that I'll get it, especially since some medical professionals are refusing it.
I don't know about anyone else, but I feel this vaccine was rushed through with very little to no info on what some of the long term affects will be?
https://www.healthing.ca/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus/vaccine-for-coronavirus/some-frontline-workers-declining-covid-vaccine-in-u-s

[dealme]

Exactly. Shouldn't these be given to the most vulnerable first? I am 56 and in good health with no comorbidities so my survival rate, if I even get it, is at 98%. Please tell me why this is being given to healthy young people and not those who are at the highest risk? Many in the health field are refusing it, and to be honest, I don't blame them. I'm not even 100% sure when it becomes available to me that I'll get it, especially since some medical professionals are refusing it.
I don't know about anyone else, but I feel this vaccine was rushed through with very little to no info on what some of the long term affects will be?
https://www.healthing.ca/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus/vaccine-for-coronavirus/some-frontline-workers-declining-covid-vaccine-in-u-s

This is where I'm at with things. I'm 42 and in good health, so I'm perfectly content to see what the long-term effects are. My concern is more regarding the vaccine technology (RNA modification) itself and the rush to get it to market. I'm happy go give my spot in line to someone who is more at risk.

And since the thread needs a card, "Doc" Cramer seems appropriate

[kmac32]

Are you serious?

Varies from state to state from what I am seeing. No uniform set of rules saying who gets the vaccine so no I am not kidding.

[cammb]

Our emmy award winning govenor in NY stated that dug addicts will get vaccine before elderly. How about that.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

State of CA has it spelled out here: https://covid19.ca.gov/vaccines/#When-can-I-get-vaccinated

I love that 99.9% of people throwing shade on governors and mayors couldn't manage themselves out of a paper bag.

[glchen]

State of CA has it spelled out here: https://covid19.ca.gov/vaccines/#When-can-I-get-vaccinated

I love that 99.9% of people throwing shade on governors and mayors couldn't manage themselves out of a paper bag.

AJ, I don't know what you mean by that second line, but that's absolutely not true because this information has not been communicated effectively. I read the online news in my area every day, and I've never seen that page that you pointed out. Even that page does not provide information on how you sign up for the vaccination. As I said, my parents are over 75, so that means, they are in Tier 1B. Since you seem like a know-it-all, When will they be able to get the vaccine? Who do they contact? Some states are already vaccinating this group already.

Regarding rumors of folks who are refusing shots like the police, we don't know the reasons behind it. As some said, it may be noble because they prefer that more vulnerable populations get the shot first. It may be that they've already had covid, so they don't need the vaccine. It is not necessarily that they don't believe the vaccine works or has been tested enough.

From what I've read, the vaccine is very safe unless you have a history of severe allergies (i.e, regularly carry an epipen) or are under 18. The approved vaccines have not been tested for that age group sufficiently. After you receive the vaccine, you need to wait around for 15 minutes or so to make sure you don't have an allergic reaction even if you don't have a history of it.

I would immediately get the vaccine for myself and my family when it is offered. However, I do understand why some folks may be nervous about it or even defer it for the time. The vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna use mRNA technology which has never been used before in vaccinations. This is brand new bioengineering happening here. It's not like the weakened form of the covid virus that has been used for other vaccinations in the past like polio. So this is not like the situation with anti-vaxxers for the measles shot where those folks are just nuts because that vaccine that been thoroughly tested for years. The covid vaccine is new technology, but saying that, it is safe and definitely worth getting.

[Yoda]

I am in Palm Beach, Fl., over 70 and now on a waiting list to make an appointment to get the shot. No idea yet when or where. The Governor should quietly resign and move to Cuba.

Let's get folks vaccinated. The National is at stake (not to mention American lives).

[cubman1941]

Bit of a cluster here in TN as well. My county has been doing frontline medical workers and first responders. Supposed to be starting vaccinations in congregated living settings this week. They closed up the drivethru sites they had because people that weren't supposed to be getting the vaccine yet were getting them. They're retooling their plan on that front, and I have hope they'll get it sorted out (though not a ton of hope).

As for me, the current timeline has me somewhere between March and May, based on how many vaccines they get. I'm young, but fall into one of the comorbity groups.

Best wishes to all of you guys. Hope everyone is staying safe and we can enjoy a nice second half of this year once they've vaccinated a ton of people.

I live in East Tennessee and our county, Sullivan, said they would take phone calls starting yesterday at 8 A. M. Well, it took me 3 hours but I finally got a "Leave a Message" recording which was o.k. because I thought they were going to assign #'s like a neighboring county did. Found out later people had been lining up early to get shots and the county had run out of the vaccine. So much for calling in and for people over 75 getting shots. I am 79 and my wife 75. Then in the paper today they said drive up and line up and we will give shots until our 400 doses run out. I have no idea when we will be able to get ours, am going to try the "blind" drive up and see what happens. One problem I see is, if we get a first shot, how long and when we will get our second one.
My daughter was us to join her in Myrtle Beach in May so hope we have ours by then.

[jcmtiger]

I am in Palm Beach, Fl., over 70 and now on a waiting list to make an appointment to get the shot. No idea yet when or where. The Governor should quietly resign and move to Cuba.

Let's get folks vaccinated. The National is at stake (not to mention American lives).

Your Governor moved people 65 or over to a slot above what the CDC said to do. That includes you, you should be grateful to Governor. There are problems but each day they are making improvements Keep safe.

[chlankf]

I got it today in Virginia. The arm I got it in is a bit sore, but other than that no ill effects. I figure if it works, great, if not, it was worth a shot (no pun intended) and if it turns out like I Am Legend, then I get to be a zombie.

Leon. If you turn out to be a zombie. Post pictures.

Craig

[Bobbycee]

State of CA has it spelled out here: https://covid19.ca.gov/vaccines/#When-can-I-get-vaccinated

I love that 99.9% of people throwing shade on governors and mayors couldn't manage themselves out of a paper bag.

Speak for yourself. Governors are elected by us, the people, to do the job of running the state through good and bad. If they can't handle emergencies, get the hell out of the way and let somebody else run the state(s). Most Governors excel at grandstanding & making themselves look better, while their state's collectively burn.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The tracker is up less than 400,000 doses in the past 24 hrs. That rate clearly is not going to get this done.

[Usc1]

My booster is coming up this week. Luckily no side effects aside from arm soreness.

Are you guys finding that Pfizer is more available or Moderna?

[egri]

My booster is coming up this week. Luckily no side effects aside from arm soreness.

Are you guys finding that Pfizer is more available or Moderna?

The only option I had was Pfizer.

[Usc1]

The only option I had was Pfizer.

Yeah, I am in California and it seems that it has been 50/50 here. I've been told that Moderna maybe more available due to less restraints (ie temps) to keep the vaccine viable.

[Kidnapped18]

Varies from state to state from what I am seeing. No uniform set of rules saying who gets the vaccine so no I am not kidding.

Yes each State has its own priority levels/groups that are to be vaccinated first. In Alabama you can contact your County Health Department to find out which group you are in and when you are able to sign up for your vaccination.

Out of the ~ 2M people eligible in AL, ~ 300K have gotten vaccinated (15%)

From those that I personally know that have gotten the shot the most common complaint from the Pfizer version is simply injection site pain. Moderna version symptoms ranged from severe fatigue, body ache/head ache and chills (ie COVID like symptoms) which are due to the inflammatory response. Some people have stronger inflammatory/immune response.

Tony

[samosa4u]

I am 37 years old and I ain't getting it! What if the damn thing turns into cancer after a few years? Give me the virus instead!

[wnp22]

I live in East Tennessee and our county, Sullivan, said they would take phone calls starting yesterday at 8 A. M. Well, it took me 3 hours but I finally got a "Leave a Message" recording which was o.k. because I thought they were going to assign #'s like a neighboring county did. Found out later people had been lining up early to get shots and the county had run out of the vaccine. So much for calling in and for people over 75 getting shots. I am 79 and my wife 75. Then in the paper today they said drive up and line up and we will give shots until our 400 doses run out. I have no idea when we will be able to get ours, am going to try the "blind" drive up and see what happens. One problem I see is, if we get a first shot, how long and when we will get our second one.
My daughter was us to join her in Myrtle Beach in May so hope we have ours by then.

Jim, best of luck to you and your wife from the western side of the state. I hope we can right this sinking ship we’ve all been riding, and I hope you and your wife get to enjoy Myrtle Beach when May comes around!

[chalupacollects]

NJ started vaccinating prison inmates yesterday. Priorities of the gov are in order. Behind them the elderly and other at risk folks... good times...

[Huysmans]

Speak for yourself. Governors are elected by us, the people, to do the job of running the state through good and bad. If they can't handle emergencies, get the hell out of the way and let somebody else run the state(s). Most Governors excel at grandstanding & making themselves look better, while their state's collectively burn.

This was comical...... the people voting these days are for the most part, much more useless and far less competent than those so called "grandstanding" Governors you're whining about. It's morons chosen by even bigger morons... welcome to modern society.

[cubman1941]

Jim, best of luck to you and your wife from the western side of the state. I hope we can right this sinking ship we’ve all been riding, and I hope you and your wife get to enjoy Myrtle Beach when May comes around!

Thanks. They have now shifted to two sites in the area - still ask for a phone call - but same number - called and got an answering machine - so let another message. Will probably just go to one of the sites and wait and see.
Really looking forward to MB - went there at least once a year for over 20 years until last year. Not just the beach but also a great card shop in Sunset Beach.

[Bobbycee]

This was comical...... the people voting these days are for the most part, much more useless and far less competent than those so called "grandstanding" Governors you're whining about. It's morons chosen by even bigger morons... welcome to modern society.

Oh really Brent?! I was responding to the guy who thinks almost 100% of us can't run our lives & need the government to tell us what to do. THAT is comical. I live in NJ where a clown presides over the state. Has a crap eating grin on his face when he announces yet another absurd round of taxes & restrictions on the citizens of the state.

I agree there are a lot of clueless voters out there. They are the ones voting for increased government in our lives. They are the ones who will be eyeing our collectibles for larger taxation as if we should be punished for our hobbies.

[Bobbycee]

NJ started vaccinating prison inmates yesterday. Priorities of the gov are in order. Behind them the elderly and other at risk folks... good times...

AMEN (not Awomen..). Leadership & common sense in NJ is lacking.

[perezfan]

Oh really Brent?! I was responding to the guy who thinks almost 100% of us can't run our lives & need the government to tell us what to do. THAT is comical. I live in NJ where a clown presides over the state. Has a crap eating grin on his face when he announces yet another absurd round of taxes & restrictions on the citizens of the state.

I agree there are a lot of clueless voters out there. They are the ones voting for increased government in our lives. They are the ones who will be eyeing our collectibles for larger taxation as if we should be punished for our hobbies.

Sadly, this will be happening very soon.

[nolemmings]

Clearly the sky is falling.

[CurtisFlood]

I'm 72, my wife is 65, we have both had Covid contracted in late October. We kicked it fairly easily, although I had a bit of fatigue and had a very hard time moving my inventory to shows as I was out of sorts and had trouble with moving the heavier items. It got easier on the second show and is getting progressively better. I have no idea when I will get the vaccine, but I have no doubt that I will take it in my turn. I have two brothers who work in hospitals and a son in law who does as well. They will all be having their second shot next week. I have read of a lot of elder care facilities having gotten their shots, and hopefully they will get around to the older citizens living at home at some point.

I am in Missouri, and many of our citizens in the small towns near me have had the virus. I am aware of only one death in our small town, and a few in the next town over which has a population of 18000. I'm not sure if the virus got them or just pushed them over the edge because of other health issues, but some of them likely would have died anyway. As many have pointed out nobody dies of pneumonia or the flu anymore.

[AustinMike]

"some of them likely would have died anyway."

A stunningly inhumane, heartless statement justifying the death of anyone by covid.

And by the way, please list any one person alive on this planet that statement doesn't apply to. Unless you know something I don't know, we are ALL going to die anyway.

[bbcard1]

I am told there are only 227.7 million people in front of me in line. I'd take it tomorrow if I could. Make it today.

[earlywynnfan]

As many have pointed out nobody dies of pneumonia or the flu anymore.

Well, except the CDC does state that pneumonia and the flu are adding to our death totals: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
But hey, go ahead and listen to the people on the internet, or maybe cable news or whatever.

[CurtisFlood]

A stunningly inhumane, heartless statement justifying the death of anyone by covid.

And by the way, please list any one person alive on this planet that statement doesn't apply to. Unless you know something I don't know, we are ALL going to die anyway.

I'm not justifying anything. You are reading too much into what I said. I'm just relaying my experience. I have a right to my opinion. You may interpret my statement based on some preconceived notion, but i would advise you to grow up.

[glchen]

I'm not justifying anything. You are reading too much into what I said. I'm just relaying my experience. I have a right to my opinion. You may interpret my statement based on some preconceived notion, but i would advise you to grow up.

I agree with Bob. Folks are reading too much into this. There is nothing heartless in what he said at all. As much as we wish it didn't happen and want to prevent it, people die every day for a variety of reasons. That's all he was saying. No need to justify anything.

[nolemmings]

"As much as we wish it didn't happen and want to prevent it, people die every day for a variety of reasons."
So true.

This today:
"(CNN)The United States reported 3,865 Covid-19 deaths on Wednesday, the highest number of deaths reported in a single day since the pandemic began.

The nation's death toll as of Thursday stands at more than 362,000, according to data from Johns Hopkins University, while the number of people who have been infected has topped more than 21.3 million."

So yeah, carry on, nothing to see here.

[Republicaninmass]

Nobody believes in fate anymore

[Tabe]

Got the vaccine yesterday. My company is considered essential/front line because we work in hospitals all the time and do IT for them. Bit of soreness in my arm - not much - but that's about it. Go back in 4 weeks to get my 2nd dose. Coworker has arm pain as well but his is severe. That's about it for side effects from the people I've talked to.

[AustinMike]

I'm not justifying anything. You are reading too much into what I said. I'm just relaying my experience. I have a right to my opinion. You may interpret my statement based on some preconceived notion, but i would advise you to grow up.

OK, "justifying" was a poor choice of words. How about this:

A stunningly inhumane, heartless, insensitive statement dismissing the death of anyone by covid.

And yes, I agree, you do have a right to your opinion. Just like I have a right to my opinion, right? Finally, I would advise you to heed your own advice.

[Shoeless Moe]

OK, "justifying" was a poor choice of words. How about this:

A stunningly inhumane, heartless, insensitive statement dismissing the death of anyone by covid.

And yes, I agree, you do have a right to your opinion. Just like I have a right to my opinion, right? Finally, I would advise you to heed your own advice.

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[jimjim]

I work at a hospital and I got my first dose on Monday. I had an extremely sore arm for 1-2 days and a temperature of 99 - 100 for about 12-24 hours. Technically not a fever but not normal. Still worth it. I’d rather get a fever from a vaccine than from Covid. I am the one in the family that always gets mild fevers from a cold or other illnesses, so not surprising. If anything, that is telling that my body is responding to the vaccine appropriately. Stay safe!

[dacubfan]

Here in AZ they are giving appointments starting Monday for those of us 75+. Just made the cutoff. My wife still works part time in my former dental practice and therefore will be getting her first vaccine on Monday. Interestingly the lady who bought my dental practice and my daughter-in-law who is a nurse have no intention of getting the vaccine. Go figure.

[Casey2296]

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[cammb]

Wait and see once Biden is Prez the reporting of COVID death numbers will diminish

[JayZim13]

I'm over 75 and my wife is over 70. We are in Palm Beach County Florida. I have the same chance getting the vaccine as winning the lottery. My friends that have gotten it or are waiting for their date have gone out of the county and as far as Vero Beach to get it. Its chaos

[Moonlight Graham]

Wait and see once Biden is Prez the reporting of COVID death numbers will diminish

Absolutely!!!

[bnorth]

Wait and see once Biden is Prez the reporting of COVID death numbers will diminish

Absolutely!!!

I would hope the numbers go down in the future. The vaccine should really help.:)

[tschock]

I would hope the numbers go down in the future. The vaccine should really help.:)

I'm not sure that is what he meant, but it isn't what he said. Please reread. That said, I agree with your statement as well. :)

[Yoda]

Your Governor moved people 65 or over to a slot above what the CDC said to do. That includes you, you should be grateful to Governor. There are problems but each day they are making improvements Keep safe.

I will be sure to keep the Governor in my prayers.

[jimjim]

I would hope the numbers go down in the future. The vaccine should really help.:)

Vaccine should hopefully help a lot. Especially when more doses are released, a more coordinated national effort is made, and the months start warming up. That being said, people have to get the vaccine for it to be helpful. That is step one. And once they get the vaccine they still need to do the 3 w's, as someone can still get infected and pass along the virus even if they are vaccinated. stay safe!

[AustinMike]

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Not a surprising response coming from the person who doesn't care that 369,000, and counting, people in this country have died from covid.

Remember this?


We are going to risk all this for 93 deaths since December, and yes I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, who cares.

Let's update that shall we?

"... and yes, I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, 369000, 450000, who cares."

More than 369,000 deaths from covid, the majority of which could have been prevented with the proper precautions, and Paul and his ilk say, "lighten up," "who cares," "they were going to die anyway," and "fate."

[AustinMike]

Back on topic, I'm scheduled to get my covid vaccination on Monday afternoon. I'm in the over 65 group and qualified to get it according to the state's guidelines. But, I'm actually getting it through my dad's assisted living facility as an essential care giver to my 90 year old dad. My wife, who is a few years older than me, still has not been able to get it nor has she even been able to schedule to get it.

[Shoeless Moe]

Not a surprising response coming from the person who doesn't care that 369,000, and counting, people in this country have died from covid.

Remember this?



Let's update that shall we?

"... and yes, I know its going to go up, to what 200, 500, 1000, 369000, 450000, who cares."

More than 369,000 deaths from covid, the majority of which could have been prevented with the proper precautions, and Paul and his ilk say, "lighten up," "who cares," "they were going to die anyway," and "fate."

I got your 300K and raise you 400K:

"Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day."


Thread was about the vaccine, quit hijacking it with Covid could have been prevented. Look at every country in the world, nobody prevented it.

Everyone get their vaccine, that's how you prevent it and the 3 W's (all while shutting NOTHING down).

This is my last comment on this, but I'm sure you will need the last word as always, have at it. Now I'm off to workout at my gym(w/mask on), then pick up some food on the way to watching Football w/friends (in empty stadiums, BOOOOOO!!!!)

Good day!

[AustinMike]

You know Paul, if you didn't post such stupid, ignorant, wrong statements, I wouldn't need to respond.

"Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day."

(1) You don't care about people's deaths. 369,000 covid deaths, to date, and your response, "Who cares?" Right? I doubt you actually care about the deaths attributed to cigarette smoking.

(2) Covid deaths/smoking deaths. Apples/oranges. Smoking is a choice. If you want to take the risk and eventually die from smoking cigarettes, that is YOUR choice. How do you minimize deaths to secondhand smoke? Prevent smoking in public places, that is the law in many parts of this country. DESPITE the objections of "personal freedom" and "government overreach" from a certain group of people.

Thread was about the vaccine, quit hijacking it with Covid could have been prevented. Look at every country in the world, nobody prevented it.

Who said anything about preventing covid? I talked about preventing deaths due to covid. Isn't that what others in this thread are talking about? I mean, nobody is talking about other things, such as deaths from cigarette smoking, right? Oh, yeah, never mind.

This is my last comment on this

Great! Now I won't feel compelled to respond to your myopic view on the subject.