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joed25
12-28-2020, 01:26 PM
I recently bought this photo on ebay. Does anyone have any info on it? It is signed on the bottom. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you so much. Joe

swarmee
12-28-2020, 02:52 PM
Names look like "Everton Bruder" and "A. Gridley" to me. Why do you think they are baseball players? The uniforms?

joed25
12-28-2020, 03:21 PM
Names look like "Everton Bruder" and "A. Gridley" to me. Why do you think they are baseball players? The uniforms?

The seller thought it was baseball players. I'm not certain. Thanks.

JollyElm
12-28-2020, 04:13 PM
It's possible the answer lies in the seated player's left hand. Identifying that cloth(?) item (or items?) may drive this quest forward.

drcy
12-28-2020, 04:23 PM
1860s and looks original. I don't think it is baseball, but is interesting due to the one-armed guy.

Wimberleycardcollector
12-28-2020, 04:36 PM
Can't figure out how to delete the duplicate post.

Wimberleycardcollector
12-28-2020, 04:38 PM
I’m reading the book “Mint Condition” right now about the history of baseball and baseball cards and there is an entire chapter on baseball and how it flourished in the Civil War. Could be some of the players from those early loosely organized teams. Maybe how he lost his arm also. Just a thought. I had never realized how many baseball leagues and teams there were during the civil war. It was a huge diversion for troops during wartime.

swarmee
12-28-2020, 04:47 PM
I like that the sleeve is tucked into his pants. I think most times I've seen images of people who lost limbs (or weren't born with them), the sleeve is cut down and sewn shut.

Great image, whether they are ballplayers or just dudes.

Jim65
12-28-2020, 06:55 PM
It's possible the answer lies in the seated player's left hand. Identifying that cloth(?) item (or items?) may drive this quest forward.

Looks like a hat to me.

Bigdaddy
12-28-2020, 10:42 PM
I'm thinking the photographer just caught him in an awkward moment.

drcy
12-29-2020, 02:00 AM
I'm thinking the photographer just caught him in an awkward moment.

:D

Michael B
12-29-2020, 02:12 AM
From the National Archives. Several soldiers with a first name of Everton, but nothing with a similar last name.

Gridley, Albert
BATTLE UNIT NAME:
57th Regiment, Pennsylvania Infantry
SIDE:
Union
COMPANY:
C
SOLDIER'S RANK IN:
Private
SOLDIER'S RANK OUT:
Private
ALTERNATE NAME:
Albert A./Gridley
FILM NUMBER:
M554 ROLL 46
PLAQUE NUMBER:
NOTES:
none

Mustered in March, 1864. Mustered out with regiment June 29, 1865. Probably not the same person. The soldier probably did not see much action this late in the war. He was from either Mercer or Allegheny County, PA

Michael B
12-29-2020, 02:19 AM
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joed25
12-29-2020, 07:30 AM
Thank you everyone for all your help!! Much appreciated.

icurnmedic
12-29-2020, 08:46 AM
The one armed dude looks like he is wearing Puma's from the 1980's with the big tongue looking lace covers. Not sure if that was cleats back then or not.

icurnmedic
12-29-2020, 08:47 AM
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luciobar1980
12-29-2020, 10:53 AM
Cool photo and info! My first thought was also "I don't think those necessarily look like baseball players".

Leon
12-30-2020, 08:21 AM
Cool photo and info! My first thought was also "I don't think those necessarily look like baseball players".

+1. Without provenance or baseball items it is always difficult to tell if a cdv, tintype or whatever, is baseball or not. There is a leap of faith and i don't usually take them in this kind of instance. Very cool photo either way.

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drcy
12-30-2020, 01:20 PM
The one armed dude looks like he is wearing Puma's from the 1980's with the big tongue looking lace covers. Not sure if that was cleats back then or not.

That's not what baseball cleats looked like back then.

Leon
01-02-2021, 03:31 PM
That's not what baseball cleats looked like back then.

Good point. Not sure if I have seen baseball shoes like that before.

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Pack The Ripper
01-02-2021, 03:54 PM
The photographer's obituary is linked below. He led quite an interesting life.

LINK: https://aadl.org/node/116307

kmac32
01-03-2021, 09:37 AM
1860s and looks original. I don't think it is baseball, but is interesting due to the one-armed guy.

Actually he is a paper hanger. Haven’t you ever heard of busier than a one armed paper hanger?