T205 Master Set Card Post

[orioles70]

Let's post a complete master set of T205 cards; a pic of the front and back of the card is required.

Let's post them in order using a master checklist.

I have included a link to a near complete master set checklist of T205 Gold Borders. The checkist is from the Old Cardboard website and lists 220 different cards. It is my opinion that a complete master set has 221 cards. The checklist shown does not list the Christy Mathewson Cycle back 1 loss variation.

I personally have 219 of the 221 cards, missing only the Mathewson and Wilhelm "suffered" variation for a complete master set. However, I also have at least 2 cards of all 11 tobacco brands; American Beauty, Broadleaf, Cycle, Drum, Hassan, Hindu, Honest Long Cut, Piedmont, Polar Bear, Sovereign, and Sweet Caporal.

I have expanded my personal master set checklist to include the 2 different T202 panels that show Joe Wood and Walter Blair that were not included in the T205 set. I have also included in my master set the 3 different T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps of Joe Wood, Walter Blair and Bill Killifer.

Here is the link to use:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t205/t205list.asp

Condition doesn't matter so post 'em in order if you got 'em.

Let's start at the beginning with
Ed Abbaticchio

Next up is Doc Adkins...and go.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200712/410169d2659e226ac711910b0c4e66f5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200712/48c2febff34b84d22d02698bfebf0028.jpg

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[brianp-beme]

Here is a copy of that list, with the T202 end panels and T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps added within the alphabetical order.

(1) Edward J. Abbaticchio Rustlers
(2) Doc Adkins Baltimore
(3) Leon Ames Giants
(4) Jas. P. Archer Cubs
(5) Jimmy Austin Yankees
(6) Bill Bailey Browns
(7) Home Run Baker Athletics
(8) Neal Ball Naps
(9) E. B Barger (full "B" on cap) Superbas
(10) E. B Barger (partial "B" on cap) Superbas
(11) Jack Barry Athletics
(12) Emil Batch Rochester
(13) John W. Bates Phillies
(14) Fred Beck Rustlers
(15) B. Becker Giants
(16) George Bell Superbas
(17) Chas. Bender Ahtletics
(18) William Bergen Superbas
(19) Bob Bescher Reds
(20) Joe Birmingham Naps
(21) Lena Blackburne White Sox
[21.1] Walter Blair [T202 end panel]
[21.2] Walter Blair [T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp]
(22) William E. Bransfield Phillies
(23) Roger P. Bresnahan (mouth closed) Cardinals
(24) Roger P. Bresnahan (mouth open) Cardinals
(25) A. H. Bridwell Giants
(26) Mordecai Brown Cubs
(27) Robert Byrne Pirates
(28) Hick Cady Newark
(29) H. Camnitz Pirates
(30) Bill Carrigan Red Sox
(31) Frank Chance Cubs
(32a) Hal Chase (both ears show, gold
diamond frame ends below shoulders) Yankees
(32b) Hal Chase (both ears show,
gold diamond frame ends at shoulders) Yankees
(33) Hal Chase (only left ear shows) Yankees
(34) Ed Cicotte Red Sox
(35) Fred Clarke Pirates
(36) Ty Cobb Tigers
(37) Eddie Collins (mouth closed) Athletics
(38) Eddie Collins (mouth open) Athletics
(39) Jimmy Collins Providence
(40) Frank J. Corridon Cardinals
(41a) Otis Crandall ("t" crossed in name) Giants
(41b) Otis Crandall ("t" not crossed in name) Giants
(42) Lou Criger Yankees
(43) W. F. Dahlen Superbas
(44) Jake Daubert Superbas
(45) Jim Delehanty Tigers
(46) Arthur Devlin Giants
(47) Josh Devore Giants
(48) W. R. Dickson Giants
(49) Jiggs Donohue White Sox
(50) Chas. S. Dooin Phillies
(51) Michael Doolan Phillies
(52a) Patsy Dougherty (red sock icon) White Sox
(52b) Patsy Dougherty (white sock icon) White Sox
(53) Thomas Downey Reds
(54) Larry Doyle Giants
(55) Hugh Duffy White Sox
(56) Jack Dunn Baltimore
(57) Jimmy Dygert Athletics
(58) R. Egan Reds
(59) Kid Elberfeld Senators
(60) Clyde Engle Red Sox
(61) Louis Evans Cardinals
(62) John J. Evers Cubs
(63) Robert Ewing Phillies
(64) G. C. Ferguson Rustlers
(65) Ray Fischer Yankees
(66) Arthur Fletcher Giants
(67) John Flynn Pirates
(68) Russ Ford (black cap) Yankees
(69) Russ Ford (white cap) Yankees
(70) Wm. A. Foxen Cubs
(71) Jimmy Frick Newark
(72) Arthur Fromme Reds
(73) Earl Gardner Yankees
(74) H. L. Gaspar Reds
(75) George Gibson Pirates
(76) Wilbur Goode Rustlers
(77) George F. Graham (Rustlers) Rustlers
(78) George F. Graham (Cubs) Cubs
(79) Edward L. Grant Reds
(80a) Dolly Gray (no stats on back) Senators
(80b) Dolly Gray (stats on back) Senators
(81) Clark Griffith Reds
(82) Bob Groom Senators
(83) Charlie Hanford Jersey City
(84) Bob Harmon (both ears show) Cardinals
(85) Bob Harmon (only left ear shows) Cardinals
(86) Topsy Hartsel Athletics
(87) Arnold J. Hauser Cardinals
(88) Charlie Hemphill Yankees
(89) C. L. Herzog Rustlers
(90a) R. Hoblitzell (no stats on back) Reds
(90b) R. Hoblitzell ("Cin." after 1908 in stats) *
(90c) R. Hoblitzel (name incorrect) *
(90d) R. Hoblitzell (no "Cin." after 1908) *
(91) Danny Hoffman Browns
(92) Miller Huggins Cardinals
(93) John E. Hummel Superbas
(94) Fred Jacklitsch Phillies
(95) Hughie Jennings Tigers
(96) Walter Johnson Senators
(97) D. Jones Tigers
(98) Tom Jones Tigers
(99) Addie Joss Naps
(100) Ed Karger Red Sox
(101) Ed Killian Tigers
[101.1] Bill Killifer [T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp]
(102) Red Kleinow Red Sox
(103) John G. Kling Cubs
(104) Jack Knight Yankees
(105) Ed Konetchy Cardinals
(106) Harry Krause Athletics
(107) Floyd M. Kroh Cubs
(108) Frank Lang (Lange) White Sox
(109) Frank LaPorte Browns
(110a) A. Latham (A. Latham on back) Giants
(110b) A. Latham (W.A. Latham on back) Giants
(111) Thomas Leach Pirates
(112) Watty Lee Newark
(113) Sam Leever Pirates
(114a) A. Leifield Pirates
(114b) A. P. Leifield Pirates
(115) Edgar Lennox Superbas
(116) Paddy Livingston Athletics
(117) John B. Lobert Phillies
(118) Bris Lord (Athletics) Athletics
(119) Harry Lord (White Sox) White Sox
(120) Jno. C. Lush Cardinals
(121) Nick Maddox Pirates
(122) Sherwood R. Magee Phillies
(123) R. W. Marquard Giants
(124) C. Mathewson Giants
(124a) C. Mathewson (Cycle back w/1 loss)
(125) A. A. Mattern Rustlers
(126) Sport McAllister Newark
(127) George McBride Senators
(128) Arby McConnell White Sox
(129) P. L. McElveen Superbas
(130) J. J. McGraw Giants
(131) Harry McIntire (Cubs) Cubs
(132) Matty McIntyre (White Sox) White Sox
(133) M. A. McLean Reds
(134) Fred Merkle Giants
(135) George Merritt Buffalo
(136) J. T. Meyers Giants
(137) Clyde Milan Senators
(138) J. D. Miller Pirates
(139) M. F. Mitchell Reds
(140a) P. J. Moran Phillies
(140b) P. J. Moran (stray line under stats) Phillies
(141) George Moriarty Tigers
(142) George Mullin Tigers
(143) Danny Murphy Athletics
(144) Jack Murray Giants
(145) John Nee Newark
(146) Thomas J. Needham Cubs
(147) Rebel Oakes Cardinals
(148) Rube Oldring Athletics
(149) Charley O'Leary Tigers
(150) Fred Olmstead White Sox
(151) Orval Overall Cubs
(152) Freddy Parent White Sox
(153) George Paskert Phillies
(154) Billy Payne White Sox
(155) Barney Pelty Browns
(156) John Pfeister Cubs
(157) Jimmy Phelan Providence
(158) E. J. Phelps Cardinals
(159) C. Phillippe Pirates
(160) Jack Quinn Yankees
(161) A. L. Raymond Giants
(162) E. M. Reulbach Cubs
(163) Lewis Richie Cubs
(164) John Rowan Phillies
(165) George Rucker Superbas
(166) W. D. Scanlan Superbas
(167) Germany Schaefer Senators
(168) George Schlei Giants
(169) Boss Schmidt Tigers
(170) F. M. Schulte Cubs
(171) Jim Scott White Sox
(172) B. H. Sharpe Rustlers
(173) David Shean (Rustlers) Rustlers
(174) David Shean (Cubs) Cubs
(175) Jas. T. Sheckard Cubs
(176) Hack Simmons Tigers
(177) Tony Smith Superbas
(178) Fred Snodgrass Giants
(179) Tris Speaker Red Sox
(180) Jake Stahl Red Sox
(181) Oscar Stanage Tigers
(182) Harry Steinfeldt Cubs
(183) George Stone Browns
(184) George Stovall Naps
(185) Gabby Street Senators
(186) George F. Suggs Reds
(187) Ed Summers Tigers
(188) Jeff Sweeney Yankees
(189) Lee Tannehill White Sox
(190) Ira Thomas Athletics
(191) Joe Tinker Cubs
(192) John Titus Phillies
(193) Terry Turner Naps
(194) James Vaughn Yankees
(195) Heinie Wagner Red Sox
(196) Bobby Wallace (with cap) Browns
(197a) Bobby Wallace (no cap,
one line of 1910 stats) Browns
(197b) Bobby Wallace (no cap,
two lines of 1910 stats) Browns
(198) Ed Walsh White Sox
(199) Z. W. Wheat Superbas
(200) Doc White (White Sox) White Sox
(201) Kirb. White (Pirates) Pirates
(202a) Irwin K. Wilhelm Superbas
(202b) Irwin K. Wilhelm
(missing letter "r" in suffered) Superbas
(203) Ed Willett Tigers
(204) J. Owen Wilson Pirates
(205) George R. Wiltse (both ears show) Giants
(206) George R. Wiltse (left ear hidden) Giants
(207) Harry Wolter Yankees
[207.1] Joe Wood [T202 end panel]
[207.2] Joe Wood [T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp]
(208) Cy Young Naps

Brian

[brianp-beme]

Here is the Doctor Doc Adkins. Next up is Ames.

Brian

[orioles70]

Brian,
A job well done.
Can the Mathewson Cycle back 1 loss variation be inserted as well?
Thanks
John

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[orioles70]

Here is Ames...next up is Archerhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/a80aa756ffeb84192733dc28db4fc26e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/28ea31f0ff4b8fb0043f4c0b1ab82362.jpg

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[gonzo]

Archer Honest

[orioles70]

Here is Jimmy Austin of the Yankees...he's in a very famous picture by Charles Conlon...oh yeah and some guy named Cobb is in the picture too.

Next up...Bill Bailey, won't you please come home?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/cf559d2cd2324847d283e5faadbfb760.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/3ce0e1bfb6c7de4607e5fc33ce57ce68.jpg

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[RCMcKenzie]

Bailey

[orioles70]

Nice Bailey....the 1st Sovereign back posted.

So far 4 different brand backs are represented in the 6 cards posted.

Most of my set is Honest Long Cut so it's a good bet any I post will be that brand.

Next up is our 1st Hall of Famer...he is from my general area on the Delmarva peninsula...I have a nice Honest Long Cut Baker but I am hoping somebody else will post a Frank "Home Run" Baker.




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[Eggoman]

I got it!

[orioles70]

Good looking Baker...way to go Eggo...and the first Piedmont back

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[trambo]

Looks like Neal Ball is next! One of the more recent additions to my set!!

[orioles70]

Next posted card should be Cornelius "Neal" Ball...only fitting that a guy named Ball turn the first unassisted triple play.

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[orioles70]

Trambo snuck in while I was typing...that's a nice looking card

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[orioles70]

So we have come to our first of many variations in the set...the Barger with full or partial B on the cap...let's see what you got

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[trambo]

Trambo snuck in while I was typing...that's a nice looking card

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Thanks! My set is one that I hope to keep upgrading to the extent I can find them!

For this thread, it's fantastic!! i have all 221 but want to see what others have as that's the fun of this! I can always jump in. I really want to see another Hoblitzell No Stats among a bunch of others!

[orioles70]

Thanks! My set is one that I hope to keep upgrading to the extent I can find them!



For this thread, it's fantastic!! i have all 221 but want to see what others have as that's the fun of this! I can always jump in. I really want to see another Hoblitzell No Stats among a bunch of others!Exactly, if we got to a stumper I figured I could bridge the gap except for the Mathewson and Wilhelm variations. I had a master set for a few years after I finally broke down and bought the Hoblitzell...but then Wilhelm and Mathewson were discovered[emoji35]

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[trambo]

Exactly, if we got to a stumper I figured I could bridge the gap except for the Mathewson and Wilhelm variations. I had a master set for a few years after I finally broke down and bought the Hoblitzell...but then Wilhelm and Mathewson were discovered[emoji35]

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I've had 2 Mathewson Cycle backs a 2 and the 4 I currently have. Almost had a PSA 5, too but couldn't quite pull the trigger. 2 Wilhelm "Suffered" as well (3 and the 4.5 in my set). It's by far my favorite set and think it will be more desirable when people realize it's tougher to put together (at least IMO) than the 520 version of t206. Loving it!!

[brianp-beme]

Barger Full B, and because it is an American Beauty, partial width. Next up is Barger Partial B.

Brian

[familytoad]

I have 212 of the 221 but alas I am away from town. Scans are on my home computer.
I love the thread already!

[pherbener]

Here's Cy Barger Partial B from my Pied. Factory 42 set.

[gonzo]

Barry Polar Bear

[orioles70]

Awesome cards guys! Now we are rolling along.

Next up is another Minor Leaguer...Emil Batch

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[orioles70]

I have 212 of the 221 but alas I am away from town. Scans are on my home computer.
I love the thread already!Thanks, thought this would be a fun way to create a real collector database of nice authentic T205 cards.

We still have a long way to go so you will have plenty of time to jump in and share with pride some of your cards with us.

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[Eggoman]

Here Comes Heinie!

I'm sitting at 220 needing only the Hoblitzell - No Stats...someday maybe...

[orioles70]

Must be a swarm...lots of B's coming...bring on Bates

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[tedzan]

Doing this thread in absolute alphabetical order is tedious and slow moving, to the point that it's not as much fun as the previous two T206 threads,
and the recent T205 HOF thread. But it's your game, so who am I to criticize.

However, I suggest that you allow the "B" group subjects to be posted freely. Followed by the "C" group guys.....etc., etc.

For example, I will break with your absolute alphabetical order and post William Bergen:

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205ABCDpattern25x.jpg

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TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[asoriano]

https://iili.io/dFuEX9.png (https://freeimage.host/i/dFuEX9)

[t206fanatic]

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[RCMcKenzie]

Becker (I'll add a better pic of the front later today)

[gonzo]

Bell Hassan 30

[orioles70]

Doing this thread in absolute alphabetical order is tedious and slow moving, to the point that it's not as much fun as the previous two T206 threads,

and the recent T205 HOF thread. But it's your game, so who am I to criticize.



However, I suggest that you allow the "B" group subjects to be posted freely. Followed by the "C" group guys.....etc., etc.



For example, I will break with your absolute alphabetical order and post William Bergen:



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205ABCDpattern25x.jpg



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TED Z



T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)

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Ted,

I tried to private message you a few days ago about you starting this very thread but I got a message stating you do not accept private messages.

Then I made a suggestion on your thread after your thread was fully completed that somebody start one like this.

It was suggested that if I started it there may be participants. So I did. And so far so good.

I also tried to private message you again out of respect before posting this here but again I got the same message stating you do not accept messages.

It really doesn't matter that much to me but I thought a thread like this would be fun and different. I am sorry you find it tedious and slow moving but there have been no complaints and there have already been quite a few cards posted in just a couple days.

I encourage everybody to participate and show off their cards. That is a small part of why we collect. I personally like knowing the next card to be shown and the anticipation of who has it, the condition, card back, etc. It may make a nice database to access for certain cards.

As a fellow collector you are certainly more than welcome to continue to participate but respect for the game will be appreciated.

Thanks,
John

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[orioles70]

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming..next up Chief Bender...3 complete games in one World Series is something we will never see again

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[orioles70]

I noticed Broadleaf made an appearance....thanks.

And the Bates, Beck and Bell cards are awesome.

T205's are so beautiful.

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[orioles70]

With just 16 cards into the list we have a good variety of backs...7 of the 11 brands have been posted.
No Polar Bear or Cycle yet...and of course no Drum or Hindu as they are the toughest.

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[tedzan]

Ted,

I tried to private message you a few days ago about you starting this very thread but I got a message stating you do not accept private messages.


I also tried to private message you again out of respect before posting this here but again I got the same message stating you do not accept messages.

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John

Some of us don't do PM's. But, you can always directly email me thru Net54 Email by clicking on my public profile.

Look, I'm glad you started this thread. I had no intention of doing it.

But, alphabetically incrementing thru a list of 200+ subjects, I think stymies broad, free-spirited participation.

The first T206 thread (April - May) playing this game with 400+ subjects was quite a success simply because everyone participated in a free-style manner.
And, this inspired the subsequent T206 (HOFer) thread, and the recent T205 (HOFer) thread.


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[orioles70]

Here comes the Chiefhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200714/872ca70ca079492f3db70edd9272e881.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200714/fd32c8b3ec220a222ac1826b81241d32.jpg

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[orioles70]

And Bergen.

Next up is Bescher...post him if you got him.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200714/04c2b7571c1015d36b85d973526243f2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200714/c7376fcb7b6deb732a4e64d6173c4c53.jpg

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[orioles70]

Correction...we did have a Polar Bear back...Gonzo posted his Barry...so 8 backs down and 3 to go

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[trambo]

Here’s Bescher

[orioles70]

Trambo, you have some very nice cards...next to bat is Birmingham

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[trambo]

Trambo, you have some very nice cards...next to bat is Birmingham

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Thanks! It’s been fun building and upgrading! My set is fairly high on the registry so more than half are 6 or better.

[GasHouseGang]

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[familytoad]

The variant of The Duke of Tralee....Next up is Al Bridwell

[brianp-beme]

The first Bresnahan got us off track. We still need the following (I'm good for the Blair T202 end panel):

(20) Joe Birmingham Naps
(21) Lena Blackburne White Sox
[21.1] Walter Blair [T202 end panel]
[21.2] Walter Blair [T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp]
(22) William E. Bransfield Phillies


Brian

[familytoad]

Muddy Lena was missing?

[familytoad]

I'm not too good at this game.
I also dont have all my cards scanned in one place.
I am lucky they are all in boxes with T205 on the front. Beyond that...no guarantees!

[RCMcKenzie]

I think we are on Birmingham. My notes say I don't have one. We can probably work around the out of order ones. Fun thread. I am waiting for Bridwell.

[orioles70]

The first Bresnahan got us off track. We still need the following (I'm good for the Blair T202 end panel):



(20) Joe Birmingham Naps

(21) Lena Blackburne White Sox

[21.1] Walter Blair [T202 end panel]

[21.2] Walter Blair [T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp]

(22) William E. Bransfield Phillies





BrianBrian
Thanks for getting us back on track

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[orioles70]

Ok...here is the Birmingham and Blackburne was previously posted...next up a Blair end panel...then a Blair Piedmont stamphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200715/5d9bcf6698e59a822562f6d7ffd2bd1e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200715/4fafafbb34f51720887e20bc6e3f008c.jpg

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[brianp-beme]

Here is the T202 end panel of Blair, which is here because it shares the same artwork style as seen in the T205 set, but along with the Joe Wood, are only seen on the end panels in the T202 Trifolder set, and not in the T205 set.

Brian

[orioles70]

Here is the T202 end panel of Blair, which is here because it shares the same artwork style as seen in the T205 set, but along with the Joe Wood, are only seen on the end panels in the T202 Trifolder set, and not in the T205 set.



BrianThanks for posting that Brian.

Here is the back of the T202 Blair. I have the 3 card panel so this back shows a little of the larger center panel.
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[orioles70]

And here is the T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp of Walter "Heavy" Blair.

This completes the first of our 3 T205 images but not T205 cards.

Next up Bransfieldhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200715/a54a9c9bc3e2f8d2624fbaea6952a445.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200715/6fd278d638469d1052b8874177d1bd12.jpg

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[Eggoman]

I'm not sure where we are, so if I posted out of order, I will skip a turn! Here's the Bresnahan - Closed Mouth!

[orioles70]

We need a Bransfield but that's a good looking Bresnahan

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[orioles70]

Ok, here is my Honest Long Cut of "Kitty" Bransfield...I think we had both Bresnahan cards but it's fine if you want to post them again...and after that I believe Bridwell is uphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200715/f2bfdf5623cf8a003f41de33716f60a8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200715/8a11bb8dc037c2485ec58be45adc129b.jpg

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[RCMcKenzie]

Bridwell

[gonzo]

Mordecai Brown Sovereign, miscut with David Shean

[orioles70]

Nice cards guys...a rare Drum back makes it's first appearance in our list...always good to see one of those

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[orioles70]

That Sovereign back Brown card is interesting...the front is fairly centered but the back is miscut enough to determine the other card

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[RCMcKenzie]

Here's a miscut Byrne. Looks like it's next to another Byrne. Cady is next...

[tedzan]

Here's my PIEDMONT Factory #42 version of Samuel Howard Camnitz.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205CamnitzPiedmont42.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205CamnitzPiedmont42b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[orioles70]

We still need minor leaguer Hick Cady

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[Eggoman]

I'll call up Hick from the Minors...

[rats60]

We still need minor leaguer Hick Cady

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https://live.staticflickr.com/874/40548318850_324736d69b_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24M7JvG)

[orioles70]

Cady plays a doubleheader....thanks guys.

Rats60 does your Cady have Hassan or Polar Bear back?

Camnitz has been posted so Carrigan is the next batter.

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[orioles70]

Immediately after posting I put on my glasses and read the flip...duh

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[trambo]

Carrigan in the house!

[GasHouseGang]

I believe Chance is next.

[tedzan]

Hal Chase


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/ChaseT205Sovereign.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/ChaseT205SovereignB.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

I love seeing cards like Ted's Chase "border extends", which probably has another Chase above it on the sheet.

Here's a Chase "border ends" with a Cycle back.

[Eggoman]

Prince Hal...

[orioles70]

Buckle up...Hall of Famers ahead

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[orioles70]

I am recovering from my tax deadline yesterday so bear with me.

I see we had our first Cycle back...I believe all brands have been represented except Hindu.

Beautiful cards guys...thanks for posting....Nice seeing all the Chase variations in one spot.

I believe Cicotte is warming up...so let's see what he's got today

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[gonzo]

Cicotte Hindu

[orioles70]

Cicotte brought his good stuff to the mound today.

Fantastic card!



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[GasHouseGang]

I guess Fred Clarke is next.

[tedzan]

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/T205CobbRT.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/T205cobb50bx.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tedzan]

I love seeing cards like Ted's Chase "border extends", which probably has another Chase above it on the sheet.

Here's a Chase "border ends" with a Cycle back.


Hey gonzo,

Here's a better one for you....check-out the back of this card. Due to it's mis-printed back, it reveals to us that this Eddie Collins card was Double-Printed (horizontally).
You gotta really love it, gonzo.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205collinsmiscut50x.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205collinsWCbk50x.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[GasHouseGang]

I can add a Cobb with a different back.

[GasHouseGang]

I can add one more.

[gonzo]

Jimmy Collins, Hassan 649 (and a couple of bonus Eddies)

[orioles70]

Gosh, a lot can happen when a guy goes to spend some time with his Mom on her 80th birthday. All kinds of nice cards get posted.

Well done gentlemen, well done.

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[RCMcKenzie]

Shown with the St. Louis Cardinals, the back describes Corridon's move to Buffalo between the 1910 and 1911 seasons. Would have been nice if they had made a Buffalo card for him.

[orioles70]

As eye appealing as the fronts are, I also really enjoy reading the backs...the language is so proper compared to today.


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[trambo]

Otis....my man!

[orioles70]

Otis....my man!I liked the reference

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[t206fanatic]

Important to cross your T's

[orioles70]

Jeff, that's a sharp looking Crandall card

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[orioles70]

Criger is next...the last of our "C"'s

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[tedzan]

Jake Daubert grew up in the Pennsylvania coal mining region (not far from where we live). He was an outstanding 1st
Baseman. His batting and fielding performances were considered as the National League's equivalent of Hal Chase at
1st base.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/DaubertT205.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/DaubertSweetCap42.jpg




NOTE....... you are forcing us to follow your strict alphabetical order ruling. AND it's not working ! ! Only TWO T205 inputs today.
Members are losing interest in this game. The previous 3 games (T206 commons, T206 HOFers, T205 HOFers) were free-spirited
and were a lot of fun for all. Anyhow, now I am posting my Jake Daubert card out of order. Several days ago I posted my Bergen
card one short of its position on your list. You ignored it and posted your Bergen card. What are you, some kind of control freak ?
And, I won't be surprised if you ignore my Daubert card, too.


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[orioles70]

Here is the last of our "C"'s, Lou Criger...bring on "Bad Bill" Dahlenhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200718/bbae21aa46cc2bbb4797b7c881356a93.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200718/23111b6aabf9fe4e32b354b45238d050.jpg

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[brianp-beme]

This is how I be doin' Dahlen. I can't wait until my Dahlen leads to the Doo' bros, Dooin and Doolan.

Brian

[orioles70]

Daubert was posted...so next is one of 6 brothers to play pro ball and 5 played in the majors...some of his team affiliations were Orphans, Beaneaters and Tip Tops...he also had an older brother that died under very unusual circumstances...coming to the plate, Jim Delahanty

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[gonzo]

Delahanty Piedmont 42

[gonzo]

And because I love this card and cards like it, Devlin Sweet Cap 42 red with a major miscut.

[orioles70]

Very interesting Devlin...I have never seen one miscut that badly

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[tedzan]

I love seeing cards like Ted's Chase "border extends", which probably has another Chase above it on the sheet.


Hi gonzo

Have you seen evidence of T205 cards indicating they were "vertically Double-Printed (like the T206's were) ?

Check-out the back of my Eddie Collins card. Due to it's mis-printed back, it reveals to us that this Eddie Collins card was Double-Printed (horizontally).
Now, that's a new bit of information for us.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205collinsmiscut50x.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205collinsWCbk50x.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

Ted, I always like seeing your Collins - it’s unique and helps tell the story of how these cards were made.

I believe that some backs were printed to repeat horizontally like your Collins open month Polar Bear. And some that were printed to repeat vertically, like the Devlin above.

I have never seen any case in which the same card was printed side-by-side _and_ adjacent vertically on the same sheet. (That is, 4 card parts visible, all the same card). But then again, I’ve never seen _any_ example of a T205 where I could see 4 identifiable card parts on the same card.

[orioles70]

Here is a nice Josh Devore Sweet Cap...the middle card of 3 Giants in a row...Devlin, Devore, and next up is Dickson...Dickson is an interesting inclusion in the set considering he had only pitched 29 innings in the majors at the time and started just 1 gamehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200718/cc42beda3d1de96056c44848a814a27c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200718/0701143d46edf01ca5ba38bfbd90d65f.jpg

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[tedzan]

Ted, I always like seeing your Collins - it’s unique and helps tell the story of how these cards were made.

I believe that some backs were printed to repeat horizontally like your Collins open month Polar Bear. And some that were printed to repeat vertically, like the Devlin above.

I have never seen any case in which the same card was printed side-by-side _and_ adjacent vertically on the same sheet. (That is, 4 card parts visible, all the same card). But then again, I’ve never seen _any_ example of a T205 where I could see 4 identifiable card parts on the same card.


Thanx gonzo

Your scan of Devlin was not in your post when I started replying to you. Your Devlin is the first T205 vertically mis-cut card that I have seen. Really neat.

Whereas, there are many, many such T206's cards. Perhaps, by 1911, American Lithographic's Quality Assurance department had greatly improved.



TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

Dickson Polar Bear

[gonzo]

And Donohue Cycle

[t206fanatic]

Dooin, courtesy of the Leon collection

[RCMcKenzie]

Here's Doolan, and a quick word on the T205 Donohue White Sox card. It is a tribute card. As the back mentions, he was the Galveston Sand Crabs manager in 1911. His last full season with the Sox was 1908. In 1909, he played 2 games for them.

[trambo]

One of the Dougherty cards

[Eggoman]

The OTHER Dougherty Card!

[orioles70]

Super nice cards guys...I only have a few Polar Bear and Cycle backs so nice to see them...thanks for posting

Here are the rest of the "D"'s to follow Dougherty

53)Thomas DowneyReds

(54)Larry DoyleGiants

(55)Hugh DuffyWhite Sox

(56)Jack Dunn Baltimore

(57)Jimmy DygertAthletics

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[gonzo]

Downey, American Beauty black ink

[RCMcKenzie]

P42 and AB green

[orioles70]

Here is Hugh Duffy with a Hindu backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/7f1fc83c9ba8c6d8e02c74e2278fb1f7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/7ae8a825d16aa1caaa9ac1ebfd0eb4b4.jpg

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[Eggoman]

Your attention, now up Hugh Duffy...

[tedzan]

Babe Ruth's 1st Manager......


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TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[tiger8mush]

(57)Jimmy DygertAthletics - the 5'8" spitballer

[orioles70]

"D"'s are "D"one...bring on the "E"'s

(58)R. Egan Reds

(59)Kid Elberfeld Senators

(60)Clyde Engle Red Sox

(61)Louis Evans Cardinals

(62)John J. Evers Cubs

(63)Robert Ewing Phillies

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[GeoPoto]

Kid Elberfeld had a career OBP of .355 across 14 MLB seasons. His fiery temper involved him in numerous ferocious arguments and assaults on umpires.

During Ty Cobb's rookie season, Cobb slid headfirst into second base, only to have Elberfeld dig his knee into the back of Cobb's neck, grinding his face in the dirt. It was the last time Cobb slid headfirst; from then on Cobb slid spikes first.
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[rats60]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50120430881_d015b3a9ab_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jmYiW2)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50127974246_2fb93d5a16_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jnCYj3)

[trambo]

No love for Egan? Ok, here's some Egan love!

Evans up!

[orioles70]

Here is an American Beauty Evans.
He led the NL in being hit by pitched balls each year from 1910 to 1912, setting a single-season record of 31 in 1910 that stood for 61 years before it was finally broken by Ron Hunt. He also set the record for being hit by a pitch in a single game, being hit three times in a game against Brooklyn.

Next up is Johnny Evershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/44e4e2459df01996336b0d5054f46a8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/078bee9fe247cdf53f453d1abc94311a.jpg

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[gonzo]

Evers, American Beauty green ink and Piedmont 42

[brianp-beme]

A double dose of Ewing...during his playing career and at the HOF induction ceremony honoring his stint with the Village People.

Brian

[orioles70]

The "E"'s were a breeze ending with a nicely turned double play by Evers and Ewing pitching both ends of a doubleheader.

Here is the "F" Troop

(64)G. C. Ferguson Rustlers

(65)Ray Fischer Yankees

(66)Arthur Fletcher Giants

(67)John Flynn Pirates

(68)Russ Ford (black cap)Yankees

(69)Russ Ford (white cap)Yankees

(70)Wm. A. Foxen Cubs

(71)Jimmy Frick Newark

(72)Arthur Fromme Redshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/586a4b6b7577b9bce68645844808b31e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/8f35135a4aeba8b547314452d8352b40.jpg

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[gonzo]

Fisher Hassan 30

[brianp-beme]

Art Fletcher. Next in is Flynn.

Brian

[t206fanatic]

Flynn Sweet Cap

[orioles70]

Ford - black cap variation w/Sweet Cap back

Wonder what a rookie card of a Yankees pitcher would sell for in todays market after a rookie season with these pitching statistics...26-6 won-loss record with 209 strikeouts and an ERA of 1.65 with 29 complete games and 8 shutouts...and if there was a variation!

Lol...Wonder what Mr. Ford's sold for in 1911?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/754a548d8d713deee3f7fab7f960fe25.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/23443260df14b69de15d0eae015946b3.jpg

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Ford - white cap variation with Piedmont backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/55bf670fed67fea956ffa3dffa26dd8c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/fada16be744a7f60395c57f6965737d3.jpg

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[tedzan]

Ford - black cap variation w/Sweet Cap back

Wonder what a rookie card of a Yankees pitcher would sell for in todays market after a rookie season with these pitching statistics...26-6 won-loss record with 209 strikeouts and an ERA of 1.65 with 29 complete games and 8 shutouts...and if there was a variation!


If you are alluding to Ford's T205 as his rookie card, check again....his T206 (460 Series) card is his ROOKIE card.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12FordRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/Ex12FordRHx50b.jpg


Anyhow, here's my James Frick

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/FrickT205.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/FrickHassan649.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

Fromme, Sweet Caporal 42 black ink, with a noticeable ink transfer

[orioles70]

Foxen got omitted...here's a nice Foxen card with Honest Long Cut back

Looks like Earl Gardner is next uphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/11985a24872330405a89b38c0969b808.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/a9716d542ebd7cc1f172b45992f15c3a.jpg

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[brianp-beme]

Mr. Gardner. Something I had not noticed until after I had scanned the card - the 'N' and 'Y' on his collar.

Next up Mr. Gaspar.

Brian

[tedzan]

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/GibsonT205SC42red25A.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/GibsonT205SC42red25x.jpg


It's past my bed time, so I'm posting my "pretty pink" Gibson.

If you guys have a problem with me posting this subject out of order, then you call me "alphabetically-challenged" :)


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[GeoPoto]

By the time he reached 30, "Dolly" Gray had already produced an excellent career in the PCL -- so excellent that he is a member of the Pacific Coast League Hall of Fame. Then, in 1909 he joined Washington in the American League.

His MLB performance was less than excellent, producing a 15-51 career record. And most of the noteworthy accomplishments were negative -- he holds a record for walking eight batters in one inning, including seven in a row.

But in April 1911, as Washington opened what would come to be known as Griffith Stadium (and cigarettes came with brightly-colored, gold-bordered baseball cards), Gray got the start against Smoky Joe Wood. Gray would win the game, a high-point in his otherwise disappointing 2-13 final MLB season.

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[T205 Hunter]

My first post . . . happy to contribute. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200721/56a06808f1fff5ca675486a62da82b5f.jpg


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[gonzo]

Graham, Rustlers, Piedmont 25, black and blue signature versions

[rats60]

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[brianp-beme]

Gasp! Somebody should post Gaspar.

Brian

[GasHouseGang]

I saw Gray already, so I guess this is the next on the list.

[GeoPoto]

Bob Groom's otherwise mundane career (288 starts over ten years, 119-150 record), had spectacular high and low points.

Right off the bat, Groom nose-dived to record low territory: in 1909, as an MLB rookie (after five seasons in the PCL), he laid a huge egg -- 19 consecutive losses, a record which has only been equaled once.

But, he continued to pitch, eventually won a few and then, in 1917 while pitching for the St. Louis Browns, Groom soared to exceptional height: he no-hit the eventual World Champion Chicago White Sox 3–0. And, the no-hitter came in the second game of a double-header. Earlier, Groom had preserved the win in the first game by pitching the last two innings without allowing a hit.

Groom's no-hitter also came the day after teammate Ernie Koob's 1–0 no-hitter against the White Sox. Koob and Groom are still the only teammates to pitch no-hitters on consecutive days.
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[Eggoman]

Gray - WITH Stats! Hello, Dolly!

[asoriano]

Didn't see a Graham Cubs posted, so here's a page of them:

https://iili.io/dxhndF.md.jpg (https://freeimage.host/i/dxhndF)https://iili.io/dxhTzv.md.jpg (https://freeimage.host/i/dxhTzv)

[Eggoman]

So THAT'S why it took me so long to find my Graham with the Cubbies!!!!!

[T205 Hunter]

So as to not hurt Gaspar’s feelings . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/3efa64105013d38e3159a5cc21215862.jpg


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[gonzo]

Hanford Polar Bear

[brianp-beme]

For your consideration - the next several in line for the Gold Bordered Throne:

(84) Bob Harmon (both ears show) Cardinals
(85) Bob Harmon (only left ear shows) Cardinals
(86) Topsy Hartsel Athletics
(87) Arnold J. Hauser Cardinals
(88) Charlie Hemphill Yankees
(89) C. L. Herzog Rustlers


Brian

[asoriano]

Harmon, Both Ears, gold ink never applied to borders. One of my all-time favorites if you can't tell by my avatar :)

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[T205 Hunter]

Pretty Harmon, T!
Here’s his other headshot:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/5008830e726ac080ddcbd787eb70da02.jpg


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[gonzo]

Hartsel with a blank back

[orioles70]

And a Hartsel with a back

Next up is Hauserhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/ea46aca17585bcf9ea572fe794a7bc24.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/bf060ddc8ca4e27e1e8e686fcc6b3231.jpg

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Keeping the ball rolling . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/623d4826b8cbd356e6707ec55a8c9968.jpg


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[orioles70]

Here's an "Eagle Eye" Hemphill Sweet Cap Red Back Factory No. 42...next up is Herzoghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/a05b9df2754a80d88b0076c24f1bbdc2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/f4bb60c3fd88eb84836c9c590c9abe02.jpg

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[tedzan]

Deleted.

[tedzan]

Double post

[T205 Hunter]

Here’s Herzog.
The Hoblitzell Quartet is up next. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/0cf207ccea9edb110190951fc0856576.jpg


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[orioles70]

Here is the first of the big 3 variations in the set...the other 2 are Mathewson 1 loss and Wilhelm "suffered" and they are the only 2 cards I need for my master set...let's see some more Hoblitzell no statshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/717909e4ca9c3a01ccc5000c76cc9013.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/3e90c1ad8aa18eeb212f99e7a9eb72de.jpg

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[RCMcKenzie]

Cin after 1908

[orioles70]

Very nice Drum back

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[RCMcKenzie]

Very nice Drum back

Thanks, one day I hope to get the "no stats". Nice one.

Here's a P42 No Cin

[Eggoman]

Here's the final one - No Cin, Single "L"



Would LOVE a Hoblitzell - No Stats...anyone listening??? :D

[T205 Hunter]

After Hoffman Huggins is next . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/f6b977ff1a223890626402e9416f3bd6.jpg


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[gonzo]

More Hoffman examples here.
This was obviously one of the trickiest cards for the printers to get right.

Here are examples of:
- White 2b, darker shading on portrait
- White 2b, little shading on face
- Yellow in 2b, darker shading on portrait
- Yellow 2b, green stripe in background
- Yellow 2b, "normal" portrait (blue eyes evident)
- White 2b, but yellow in 3b, and a small yellow triangle above 1b

I wouldn't call all of these variations per se, but they definitely show that this card gave the printers fits.

[tedzan]

PIEDMONT Factory #42 cards are very difficult to find for the 32 subjects in the A - B - C - D group (which includes Miller Huggins).


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205Piedmont42.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/HugginsT205Piedmont42bx.jpg





V---------------------------------------------------------------------AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection (A - B - C - D)--------------------------V
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. . . . . . . . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HugginsT205ABbx.jpg . . . . . . . . . . .https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/BCDxT205Huggins25bx.jpg





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I need the Huggins HASSAN Factory #30 and #649 cards to complete this run. Any help here is greatly appreciated.
Also, a DRUM back (which has yet to be confirmed) would be really nice.

Thanks guys,


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[orioles70]

Here is the last card to finish out the letter "H"...Versatile utility man "Silent John" Hummell with an Honest Long Cut back

The letter "I" is the first of 4 letters to not be represented in T205..the others are U, X and Z

Jacklitsch is nexthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200724/6be11243ed9a9d356711f914bc93d0df.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200724/762eb17bf64ce1ed3daaea3eb7a47272.jpg

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[tedzan]

Thirteen year career, mostly with the Phillies as their Catcher.


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TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[T205 Hunter]

Elected to the HOF in 1945 - here is Jennings. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200724/5ee35b9bb70d37098ba314258f12b891.jpg


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[gonzo]

Johnson Sweet Caporal 25

[tedzan]

Different game....but, image and name are the same.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/JohnsonT202panel75x.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/large/at202walterjohnsonxknight.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/large/bt202walterjohnsonxknight.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[RCMcKenzie]

D. Jones

[t206fanatic]

T(h)om(as) Jones

[gonzo]

A couple of print oddities for Joss Piedmont
- big color shift
- probably another Joss to the right

[Eggoman]

Mr. Edward Karger - for your viewing pleasure!

[T205 Hunter]

Okay, here are the next two gentlemen:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/30dfc70808b380915f3026785bfac3ba.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/0b720f842b2e7262b67d862bf405ca59.jpg


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[orioles70]

Nice looking cards

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[T205 Hunter]

Thank you.
Sheepishly I’ll admit to following this site for years. So I consider all of you teachers. Collecting has been an education and a passion. It’s exciting to finally participate in the forum I’ve come to enjoy so much.
So, thank you.


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[brianp-beme]

Posting the second of three T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps with similar artwork, but not seen in the T205 set. Killifer is the only one of these three (also Blair and Wood) that was not seen as an end panel in the T202 set.

Brian

[orioles70]

Yeah, you don't see too many Killifer stamps around...I looked for this for quite a few yearshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/795be4739935c3228f7bce0661f05f31.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/1739908cc2cba5da1922a9a1f5dad3c5.jpg

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[T205 Hunter]

The artwork/image on those Killifer stamps is amazing - don’t think I’ve seen one before.

Here’s Kling:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/c1cb779426e4526a2347e0612dfe8e63.jpg


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[gonzo]

Knight, Sweep Caporal 42 red ink, with what is probably another Knight on the card above.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here's a nice Krause and a Konetchy that is in poor shape. The front is decent, but the back has scrapbook remnants attached. I guess I should soak it one day to see what brand it is. Green ink.

(found a nicer copy of Konetchy in a box, so I added it here.)

[T205 Hunter]

After these two ball players LaPorte is next:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200726/bfcbf6ac5e15f48b18043646848ea4af.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200726/3f905d691452d76912a46a1003b9cda9.jpg


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[brianp-beme]

Here is LaPorte a la carte.

Brian

[gonzo]

A. Latham.
First, miscut on a card with Lobert.
Then, some Honest and Polar Bear examples with varying degrees of "W" and/or "." showing up in the name on the back.

[tedzan]

Wyatt Lee......one of the 12 subjects representing the Eastern League......printed and issued in the Fall/Winter of 1911.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/LeeT205.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/LeeHassan649.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[rats60]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50120653937_b909cdbc0c_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jmZseP)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50156258898_1de37559b4_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jq8Wms)

[orioles70]

Here is the Latham variation with W.A. on the backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/8950c1f856fb4eb73759469d6bf731f1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/ac3e7ed66231aa684d933830cdc63e10.jpg

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[orioles70]

Leach was also skipped so here he is with a Drum backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/5aef88696a2fdcc49c8ba341d84db840.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/4797a6d5fe92833056148fddcd9da613.jpg

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[orioles70]

Next up are the Leifield variations..."A." on front and "A.P." on front

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[T205 Hunter]

Leach was small in stature but apparently very fast. He hit four triples in 1903 in the first World Series game. Not surprisingly, it’s still a record.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/fb14ca62a940b048eea0ba2ccfafa7f4.jpg


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[T205 Hunter]

Love the Drum Back!


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[orioles70]

Here are the Leifield variationshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/c8eff69fa4a3214b3baba8c90097bfa0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/37de5f64a4dbcdc3766fd4eb01e26fb8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/be3fc917372c6fa54883a2cac9dd62b8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/ecdd66748e9fcf77892bd24e3c7c62e6.jpg

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[orioles70]

Love the Drum Back!


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[orioles70]

Next up

(115)Edgar Lennox*Superbas

(116)Paddy Livingston*Athletics

(117)John B. Lobert*Phillies

(118)Bris Lord (Athletics)*Athletics

(119)Harry Lord (White Sox)*White Sox

(120)Jno. C. Lush*Cardinals



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[gonzo]

Lennox Sweet Caporal 42 red ink

[tedzan]

Like the bio on Lobert's card reads.... John was one of "the fastest men" in BB. So how fast was he ?
In 1913, John Lobert and Jim Thorpe raced the 100 yard dash at the Polo Grounds and Lobert won.



A - B - C - (DRUM has not yet been confirmed) connection

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205ABLobert50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205BLLobert50x.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205LobertCYCLEx50xx.jpg
. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205ABLobert50b.jpg . . .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205BLLobert50b.jpg .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205LobertCYCLEx50bx.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/LobertT205Sovereign25x.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/LobertHonestLongCutT205.jpg

-------------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/LobertT205SovereignB.jpg--------------------------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/LobertHonestLongCutT205bx.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/LobertT205PiedmontSweetCap.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205LobertPolarBear.jpg
.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/LobertT205PiedmontSweetCapB.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205LobertPolarBearB.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[orioles70]

Skipped over was Mr. Livingston, I presumehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/7a9f545f1352dfa0913e371af0fd2849.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/5198c3c33c2d669c8c2ef2598ce4c30d.jpg

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[brianp-beme]

No need to be circumspect, Bris is an American Beauty.

Brian

[T205 Hunter]

After Harry Lord, Lush is next. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/3820c4e392f0289fcd02e3c4e2c1e97b.jpg


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[T205 Hunter]

One Lush w/ poor registration -
A second Lush w/ an MC back:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/711ae241b4c80c2b63ea259589f4ff7e.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/e52d973b51b57c4204f316d85473505a.jpg


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[trambo]

I'll start the "M's"

[gonzo]

Magee Honest, with a back miscut showing 2 other card edges

[T205 Hunter]

Here’s HOFer, Marquard w/ red SC back:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/cdaea41e999525eefc40e6711599fd67.jpg


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[trambo]

Here's one of the Mathewsons. My other is probably my favorite but I'll post the Cycle instead.

[orioles70]

That's a very nice Mathewson...it's a card I hope to acquire along with the Wilhelm variation to someday finish off the master set

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[RCMcKenzie]

Sorry to jump ahead, gang. Wanted to get in this Mattern, which is nice for a PB back. This is a good time for anyone to follow-up with a Matty. We all know they're out there. Rob

[gonzo]

Matty American Beauty green ink

Also, a bonus Mattern, miscut with a Minor League player to the left.

[trambo]

What’s up, Sport!

[GeoPoto]

In retrospect, George McBride had a very surprising nick name. He was known as "Pinch" because of his reputation for being able to hit in the clutch.

How he got that reputation is puzzling because, after playing 16 MLB seasons, McBride ends up having the lowest career batting average of any player with 5,000+ at-bats. Go figure. His defense must have been spectacular (he led the AL in fielding for four straight seasons), but his hitting was rarely excellent, clutch or otherwise.

And yet, in 1911, the year his gold-bordered baseball card was issued, "Pinch" produced his best single-season batting average -- .235. Now that's hitting in the clutch.

[GeoPoto]

. . . but I screwed up and can't figure out how to change pictures in the original mistake. So here is the proper image (I hope).

https://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=411464&stc=1&d=1596038472
https://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=411465&stc=1&d=1596038484

[brianp-beme]

[QUOTE=GeoPoto;2003890]. . . but I screwed up and can't figure out how to change pictures in the original mistake. So here is the proper image (I hope)[QUOTE]

After clicking on the Edit button, on the new screen click on the 'Go Advanced' button located at the bottom of the gray frame. On the new screen scroll to the bottom section labeled 'Additional Options' and click on the 'Manage Attachments" button. And you will be able to delete and add images.

The 'Go Advanced' button is also used if you ever need to change the title of a thread you created.

Brian

[GeoPoto]

Thanks. That makes sense. I was scared of "advanced". And in a panic to clean up after myself.

[T205 Hunter]

McConnell is up for the White Sox!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/63824abd3f832869a0ce43616a6ba4a6.jpg


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[t206fanatic]

Pryor Mc with a little tobacco staining from the Polar Bear pouch

[tedzan]

McLean was big & slow, but he could Hit & Throw. He was probably the biggest Catcher ever in BB (6 ft. 5 in., 230 lbs.).
His Major League career spanned 13 years, mostly with Cincinnati (1906 - 1912). He was really loved by the Cinci fans.



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/McLeanT205SweetCap25.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/McLeanT205SweetCap25b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

6 ft. 5 in. 230 in 1911 - McLean must have stood out more then than Aaron Judge does today!


Here's McGraw, Hassan 649, miscut with Otis Crandall below.

[T205 Hunter]

Here’s Cubbie, Harry McIntire:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/d9c0e505ef05df1f1ffac46b3f62433d.jpg


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[gonzo]

Crosstown rival Matty McIntyre, Polar Bear

[tedzan]

George had a 3 year Major League career with Pittsburgh (1901 - 1903). As a Pitcher, he Won 3 and Lost none. He also was an Outfielder.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/MerrittT205Hassan649.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/MerrittT205Hassan649b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[trambo]

Here's a little JT love for the group!

[RCMcKenzie]

Nice cards, here's Merkle.

[t206fanatic]

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[T205 Hunter]

Here are three John Miller cards:
1) John D - Hassan
2) John B - P25
3) John D/B - P42https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/f796ddd074e3e290441db9fc116ed657.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/533493b595ba1e78edb2f5fdc675d8a8.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/3fb3c84d7301d04d4c5e87e87fdc1a9d.jpg


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[gonzo]

Mitchell, Sweet Caporal 42 red ink, with offset gold borders showing the yellow beneath.

[T205 Hunter]

That is a cool Mike Mitchell!


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[gonzo]

Moran no stray line, Piedmont 25, with probably the same card above.

[trambo]

No stray line above so here's a Stray Line example.

[gonzo]

Moriarity, Polar Bear back

[T205 Hunter]

George Mullin won 29 games in 1909??!!
And 4 additional seasons with 20+ W’s!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/b961836919036febe1a244e29f63323e.jpg


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[gonzo]

Murphy, Piedmont factory 25, with another Murphy below.

[tedzan]

This interest in this game has diminished to a "snail's pace".

So it's time to speed it up by proceeding into the"N" group.

Here's John Nee


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/NeeT205Hassan649.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/NeeT205Hassan649b.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

Needham, American Beauty green ink

Also, a bonus: Murray, Sovereign, with a vivid color difference on front and back, probably due to an environmental cause like adhesive, heat, and/or moisture.

[tedzan]

Rebel Oakes was quite the "speedster". A left-handed batter, he once laid down a Bunt, and scored in the same play.
The combination of his speed around the bases, an error (or two) by the opposing team resulted in a "Bunt - HR" :)



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/RebelOakesT205AB.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/RebelOakesT205ABb.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[T205 Hunter]

Here’s another “Beauty” in order . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/1863cde81feac25fa0abea3a28533311.jpg


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[rats60]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50120436286_5e27ac24b6_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jmYkxd)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50190319507_e95c18e0da_w.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jt9vok)

[gonzo]

Olmstead, Broad Leaf, with a slight ink transfer on the front

[brianp-beme]

Piedmont factory 25 is Overall the most common T205 back.

Brian

[tedzan]

Whoops, forgot that Fred Parent goes before Paskert.

[t206fanatic]

Fred Parent, one of the eight (!) Fred's in the T205 set.

[brianp-beme]

This Fred is a Payne in the Cycle.

Brian

[tedzan]

Dode Paskert with a DRUM back......

April 13, 1911 Phillies vs the Giants at the Polo Grounds, Dode made a spectacular catch which many Baseball historians consider the greatest catch ever in Baseball.
In the bottom of the 8th inning, Fred Snodgrass of the Giants smashed a deep line drive into the left-center field gap at the Polo Grounds. It looked for sure to be an
inside-the-park Home Run. Dode raced after the drive and at the last moment turned, and dove to the ground, and caught the ball with his bare hand.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205PaskertDRUMx25.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T205PaskertDRUMx25B.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[gonzo]

Love that Drum Paskert.

Here's Payne, Piedmont 25.

Also, a couple of bonus Paskert freaks - vertical miscut with another Paskert, and a yellow border/goldless.

[tedzan]

Yea....I'm out of order alphabetically....but this pop to the top of this page may put this game in play today.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/PhelanT205.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/PhelanHassan649.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[familytoad]

I think Pelty and Pfiester were missing. And they are found...

[RCMcKenzie]

Gang, are we on Phelps? Here's a Phelps, my Deacon Phillipe back run can wait for another day.

[tedzan]

I get a kick out of doing complete runs of my favorite T205 guys. Jack Quinn is one of the 32 subjects that were printed with the A - B - C - D back pattern.
This group of 32 guys were each printed with 11 different Tobacco backs. I need 3 more backs for the complete run. I have a deal going for the BROAD LEAF
and HONEST LONG CUT cards. The DRUM card is extremely difficult to find.
No concern regarding HINDU. T205 DRUM and HINDU are mutually-exclusive backs.


A - B - C - D pattern.
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/ABT205Quinn.jpg ------------------------------------http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205QuinnCycle25x.jpg
. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/ABT205QuinnB.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/BroadLeafT205bk25x_1.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205QuinnCycle25xb.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/T205WolterDRUMx25bx.jpg




. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/Hassan30xPiedmont25QuinnX.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/Hassan30xPiedmont25QuinnXb.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/HonestLongCutLobertBx.jpg
Factory #30




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/JackQuinnHassanFactorynum649.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/QuinnPBxSovSweetCapT205.jpg

- - - - - - - https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/JackQuinnHassanFactorynum649bx.jpg - - - - - - - https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/QuinnPBxSovSweetCapT205b.jpg
Factory #649


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[T205 Hunter]

Here’s my P42 Phillippe:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/128a0c32d8a56e950ed50c8d096ae5b0.jpg


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[Forever Young]

“Bugs” the boozer Raymond.

“ Teammate Rube Marquard once said that Bugs didn’t spit on the ball, he just breathed on it and it came up drunk.”

YIKES!

I will post a better scan and back later when I get home. This is one of the nicest examples in my near set

[gonzo]

Reulbach, Piedmont 25, with a handwritten back holding the card together.

This is one of my favorite cards. I imagine a kid carefully rescuing the torn card and writing the bio on the back as well as possible.

[Matt E.]

412849

Gonzo,

Love that Reulbach card!

Matt

[tedzan]

Hey Gonzo.....you gotta love your Ed Reulbach card, very cool.

Here's the John Rowan card, it is a Short-Print....it's quite tough to find.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/large/RowanT205.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/tedzan77/websize/RowanT205PB.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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[Matt E.]

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