Is this green Cobb real or fake?

[SkuceGoose]

Hi everyone. I’m new here. I bought a green Cobb on eBay , just want opinions on whether or not it’s real or fake.
I’m getting a lot of mixed reactions on it

I’m new to the whole T206 scene, so I don’t know too much yet
Your guys help is much appreciated


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[atx840]

It is not real, most fakes have a slightly shifted green at the top & the gray on the left shoulder.

[phikappapsi]

sorry hoss; ya got took

[Tao_Moko]

It is not the worst fake out there, but it's no good. Leon pointed out in a prior thread that there are a number of new collectors running into these fakes that are being passed as real.
Always good to ask. There used to be and still may be a link to "detecting fakes and alterations" somewhere within this site.

There are tell tale signs with the ink patterns, paper stock, smell, texture, pattern of both creasing and edge wear, staining, centering, registration and probably at least a dozen others. One quick way is to simply hold the card to the light and peer from the back to front - if you see a silhouette of the player then fake. Maybe newer fakes have fixed that, but it rules a fair amount out.

My best advice is ensure you have an authentic t206 and a x30 magnifying glass to compare to. The differences will jump out at you without any further knowledge.

[Leon]

Newer collectors should stick with graded (by one of the top 3 tpgs) as they will almost never be fake.

[Tao_Moko]

Newer collectors should stick with graded (by one of the top 3 tpgs) as they will almost never be fake.

Bold statement. Buyer beware when buying slabbed too. Best to educate yourself and find dealers you trust. There are many on this forum that will treat you right here or on eBay.

[BeanTown]

I think I recall seeing that seller. He is using the same exact holder for all his "key" money cards from 1886 through 1960. Amazing how he has all the big name star cards and the wear has a pattern which is seen on others.

You should return it while you still have eBay/paypal protection.

[Tyruscobb]

Bold statement. Buyer beware when buying slabbed too. Best to educate yourself and find dealers you trust. There are many on this forum that will treat you right here or on eBay.

I agree with Leo. Slabbed cards provide newer collectors (and older non-sophisticated ones for that matter) more security than raw card purchases. This is especially true for expensive cards, such as the green Cobb.

Yes, there are numerical graded altered cards, but, for the most part, they are at least authentic. Plus, slabs provide more liquidity than raw cards. Most people still blindly trust the TPGs, and will pay more for a slabbed 3 than an estimated raw 3.

[Tao_Moko]

I agree with Leo. Slabbed cards provide newer collectors (and older non-sophisticated ones for that matter) more security than raw card purchases. This is especially true for expensive cards, such as the green Cobb.

Yes, there are numerical graded altered cards, but, for the most part, they are at least authentic. Plus, slabs provide more liquidity than raw cards. Most people still blindly trust the TPGs, and will pay more for a slabbed 3 than an estimated raw 3.

There are circles to talk around tpg's and I'm not going there, but to exclusively buy slabbed cards as a new collector seems overkill. Perhaps on a green Cobb purchased online you are correct and that may have been Leon's point. If I need a Pfeister then I'm not paying the premium for a slab. Knowing and understanding how to identify fakes is good for all collectors. There is not only one way to go about collecting so we are just representing two possible ways of going about it. I admittedly never got with the times

[irishdenny]

"if" there is a someone here who has "Known" at Every point through their collecting journey, than i say, "Good on Ya!"

One Day i believe You'll Look back on this Card Purchase and You'll say to Yourself... "Self, Never Again!" (:
While Painfully Laughing at the Mr Cobb Card You bought years ago ...

Experience + Knowledge = Wisdom

(imho... Your Experience Level jus Skyrocketed!)

And That's what We're here for... Most of uS would of loved to hav help'd You B4 this Crime of Passion...

*Dead Guys on Cardboard seem to have that effect on us! ;)

Today i purchase some(Mostly Misfits!) cards jus to see them in my hand in order to have a full Opinion... Possible Returning them will Always be part of the transaction! A Card worth that much must be Returnable in order to complete the Beginning of the transaction! Every Reputable Collector, Dealer etc... Knows this!

iN the Past 20 + years i've only recall returning 2 Cards ~

"Slab or No Slab!"

*Leon is jus being Compassionate towards his yearlings :)
His been here a while and Really Cares!!!

So, i do Hope that the Person who Sold You Mr Cobb's Reprint is Man enough to give You back Your Money!

[Tao_Moko]

This is the very next thing I read when going back to the main page:

I have to agree, without reading any words in the initial post I thought trimmed side to side almost instantly. Don't feel bad I have a couple of high grade 1933 Goudeys in PSA holders that I pulled from my auction because they are trimmed.

Coming here prior to a purchase is pretty much a sure bet. Not a slab, or even your own eyes. Everyone has your best interest in mind and you can choose which advice suits you best. Ultimately, sorry you got burned. All of us have at some point.

[Tyruscobb]

There are circles to talk around tpg's and I'm not going there, but to exclusively buy slabbed cards as a new collector seems overkill. Perhaps on a green Cobb purchased online you are correct and that may have been Leon's point. If I need a Pfeister then I'm not paying the premium for a slab. Knowing and understanding how to identify fakes is good for all collectors. There is not only one way to go about collecting so we are just representing two possible ways of going about it. I admittedly never got with the times

I should’ve better clarified my response. I’m advocating buying slabbed for big purchases. However, “big” is a relative term, because everyone has different disposable income levels. I have no worries purchasing raw vintage, even over the internet which hinders my ability to fully inspect the card, up to $200.00. Anything over $200.00 makes me uneasy and I’d prefer a slab.

[Leon]

Countless collectors have come on here and been saved from a bad sale, myself included :). I don't think anyone is exempt from making a mistake. Live and learn.
Tip of the day, don't ever buy a Fro Joy baseball card that is in color....

This is the very next thing I read when going back to the main page:

Coming here prior to a purchase is pretty much a sure bet. Not a slab, or even your own eyes. Everyone has your best interest in mind and you can choose which advice suits you best. Ultimately, sorry you got burned. All of us have at some point.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Pretty experienced but a lot of guys on here know I bought a bogus T205 Cy Young. I even went against advice received here on Net54. Apparently there are people with better ebay eyes than me. As soon as I had it in hand I knew it was ridiculous.

[glynparson]

i Won’t hold my breath but I think I’d pay to see a fake green Cobb in a PSA holder not a Frankenstein card or altered card but an actual bogus one. And I mean a real holder not a knock off. Some of the PSA hate on this board has moved so far beyond rational it’s laughable.

[irv]

i Won’t hold my breath but I think I’d pay to see a fake green Cobb in a PSA holder not a Frankenstein card or altered card but an actual bogus one. And I mean a real holder not a knock off. Some of the PSA hate on this board has moved so far beyond rational it’s laughable.

And the same can be said for the love affair for them as well.