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chalupacollects
05-11-2020, 11:29 AM
Have a group question:

Wondering the thought of the board if a card someone considers near mint have gum stains?

If not considered near mint - how much does it cost on the grade if card were to be graded?

Thanks in advance!

Stampsfan
05-11-2020, 11:39 AM
For me, as a corner junkie, a wax or gum stain does little to me unless it is really dark and on the front. I’d rather have a solid card with wax than a lower condition with no wax.
Given that, I do I understand what goes into determining the technical grade.

Santo10Fan
05-11-2020, 12:04 PM
According to PSA's grading standards Mint 9 allows for "a very slight wax stain on reverse". But as we all know, who really knows what any PSA grading team will actually agree on.

glynparson
05-11-2020, 12:22 PM
Gum or wax? Wax absolutely can especially of a bowman, gum Stain no way.

hcv123
05-11-2020, 01:44 PM
No stains allowed on a near mint card (if I'm buying it). How much of a hit is going to be card specific based on a total of all condition factors.

JollyElm
05-11-2020, 02:49 PM
I have this mint 1974 Billy Williams with the obligatory gum stains on back (which looks darker in the scan than in reality)...

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Aquarian Sports Cards
05-11-2020, 03:00 PM
Gum or wax? Wax absolutely can especially of a bowman, gum Stain no way.

Was going to say I've had '51 Bowmans with the typical light wax stains get 7's

swarmee
05-11-2020, 03:37 PM
I would say that with disclosure that there is a stain, yes. But if you just list the card condition as Near Mint and do not disclose a wax stain, you set yourself up for a return.

conor912
05-11-2020, 04:15 PM
They can if you ask 2015 Heritage collectors.

swarmee
05-11-2020, 04:33 PM
They can if you ask 2015 Heritage collectors.
Those don't count. They're printed on.... ;-)

bnorth
05-11-2020, 06:49 PM
Have no experience with gum stains. I know SGC will only give you a 60/5 EX on cards with wax stains. A few years ago I had them grade a complete set and the wax stained cars all got the same grade. Without the stains they would have gotten 7s and 8s like the rest of the set.

Leon
05-12-2020, 02:43 PM
Interesting question. My answer is yes,depending on severity. I don't think the opinionators feel that way though.