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cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 04:36 PM
So watching the commercials for the 100 greatest football players got me thinking; so lets have a fun thread; I'll start with football & baseball, since that's what I know off top of my head {if anyone knows hockey and basketball feel free to add. Let's come up with our own list of top 20 per decade only 3 rules {1} player had to have a rookie card in that decade {2} up to 5 players per decade {3} no criticizing anyone's picks in a negative or mean way {except for corrections of course}

Lets change rule #2; up to 5 players per decade allowed

Here's my guesses

Baseball:
50's............Mickey Mantle
60's............Rod Carew
70's............George Brett
80's............Barry Bonds
90's...........need to think about
2000's........Anyone's Guess

Football
50's..............Jim Brown
60's..............need to think about
70's..............Walter Payton
80's..............Jerry Rice
90's..............Peyton Manning
2000's...........Tom Brady


So who you got?????????????

slightlyrounded
12-04-2019, 04:51 PM
Rookie card thing is tough with the older issues...need to revise my list.

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 04:52 PM
Hockey
50's..............Gordie Howe
60's..............Bobby Hull
70's..............Bobby Orr
80's..............Wayne Gretzky
90's..............Mario Lemieux
2000's..........Joe Sakic?

Sorry but except for Howe these are all the wrong decade. Hull 58 Orr 66 Gretzky 79 Lemieux 85 Sakic 89 (I think).

slightlyrounded
12-04-2019, 04:54 PM
Sorry but except for Howe these are all the wrong decade. Hull 58 Orr 66 Gretzky 79 Lemieux 85 Sakic 89 (I think).

Yes - I read the original post after responding first. That's how forums are supposed to work, right?

bnorth
12-04-2019, 04:58 PM
Basebatt
50s Mickey Mantle but not by much, some great players in that decade.
60s Hank Aaron by a mile.
70s Tom Seaver he sure was terrific.
80s Wade Boggs 352 batting average for the decade.
90s Roger Clemens with Greg Maddux a close second.
00s Albert Pujols and it isn't even close.

Those are my picks.:D

EDIT: just notice the rookie part so will have to change my picks.

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 04:59 PM
Yes - I read the original post after responding first. That's how forums are supposed to work, right?

yep, all good

ullmandds
12-04-2019, 04:59 PM
Basebatt
50s Mickey Mantle but not by much, some great players in that decade.
60s Hank Aaron by a mile.
70s Tom Seaver he sure was terrific.
80s Wade Boggs 352 batting average for the decade.
90s Roger Clemens with Greg Maddux a close second.
00s Albert Pujols and it isn't even close.

Those are my picks.:D

i like these picks.

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:00 PM
50s Mantle
60s Rose
70s Schmidt
80s Griffey
90s Jeter
00s Pujols
10s Trout

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:01 PM
i like these picks.

How many people in one thread don't read the question? LOL.

bnorth
12-04-2019, 05:03 PM
How many people in one thread don't read the question? LOL.

Obviously several of us but at least I didn't pick Griffey.:D

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:04 PM
Obviously several of us but at least I didn't pick Griffey.:D

Easily the most iconic RC of the decade.

bnorth
12-04-2019, 05:06 PM
Easily the most iconic RC of the decade.

I figured since I broke one rule might as well go for 2.:D

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 05:07 PM
50s Mantle
60s Rose
70s Schmidt
80s Griffey
90s Jeter
00s Pujols
10s Trout

I love those last 3; great choices

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:19 PM
FB

50s Brown
60s Namath
70s Bradshaw
80s Montana
90s Manning
00s Brady
10s eh

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:23 PM
HCKY

50s Howe
60s Orr
70s Gretzky
80s Lemieux
90s Jagr?
00s Crosby
10s McDavid

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:27 PM
BKB

50s Russell
60s Wilt (Alcindor arguable)
70s Dr. J
80s Bird/Magic SHOULD HAVE SAID JORDAN
90s Kobe (Shaq arguable)
00s Lebron
10s still up in the air

ullmandds
12-04-2019, 05:28 PM
How many people in one thread don't read the question? LOL.

D'oat!!!!!!

GasHouseGang
12-04-2019, 05:31 PM
I liked a lot of the original picks. But being a Cardinal fan may sway my vote for Brock in the 60's. It was either him or Bob Gibson. But Gibby would be the 50's.

Baseball
50's.........Willie Mays
60's.........Lou Brock
70's.........George Brett
80's.........Barry Bonds
90's.........Alex Rodriguez
2000's......Albert Pujols

Football
50's..............Jim Brown
60's..............Dick Butkus (named most feared tackler of all time)
70's..............Walter Payton
80's..............John Elway
90's..............Peyton Manning
2000's...........Tom Brady

BearBailey
12-04-2019, 05:40 PM
Baseball
50s Willie Mays
60s Pete Rose
70s Mike Schmidt
80s Barry Bonds
90s Ivan Rodriguez
00s Albert Pujols

frankbmd
12-04-2019, 05:47 PM
This thread looks like one of mine, in which the rule breakers outnumber those who are able to read and comprehend the rookie card proviso.

Without the RC rule, one could use Minnie Minoso in five different decades.:eek:

I can empathize with the OP though and will graciously withdraw from the chaos.

hcv123
12-04-2019, 05:53 PM
BKB

50s Russell
60s Wilt (Alcindor arguable)
70s Dr. J
80s Bird/Magic
90s Kobe (Shaq arguable)
00s Lebron
10s still up in the air

40's Mikan
50s Russell
60s Wilt
70s Dr. J
80s Jordan!!
90s Kobe
00s Lebron
10s still up in the air

There we go - corrected :D

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 05:57 PM
Howard yeah I missed that one.

wondo
12-04-2019, 05:59 PM
I'm kinda vanilla - but here goes............

50's.........Mickey Mantle
60's.........Nolan Ryan
70's.........Mike Schmidt
80's.........Barry Bonds
90's.........Rich Delucia
2000's......Mike Trout

trambo
12-04-2019, 05:59 PM
Baseball (some are intentionally different than the OP but generally agree w/many)

50's-Koufax (or Clemente)
60's-Ryan (or Yastrzemski)
70's-Winfield (Brett or Ozzie Smith)
80's- Griffey by a mile
90's-Jeter
00's-Pujols
10's-Trout

BigBeerGut
12-04-2019, 06:05 PM
This is Awesome

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 06:07 PM
This thread looks like one of mine, in which the rule breakers outnumber those who are able to read and comprehend the rookie card proviso.

Without the RC rule, one could use Minnie Minoso in five different decades.:eek:

I can empathize with the OP though and will graciously withdraw from the chaos.

Not allowed, let's hear some answers, follow the rules though {LOL}

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 06:11 PM
During xmas - new years week {if it lasts}; I figure out a way to put up a poll and put it up to a vote
Does anyone know; is there anyway like a comment like you can do in the psa boards?

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 06:19 PM
I'm kinda vanilla - but here goes............

50's.........Mickey Mantle
60's.........Nolan Ryan
70's.........Mike Schmidt
80's.........Barry Bonds
90's.........Rich Delucia
2000's......Mike Trout

Nolan Ryan, Duh, how did I forget him? great choice and I'm pretty sure that's the only Delucia vote

jasonkaiser25
12-04-2019, 06:21 PM
C’mon guys it’s Rickey Henderson for the 80’s by a more than a bit

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 06:27 PM
C’mon guys it’s Rickey Henderson for the 80’s by a more than a bit

am kinda surprised no Montana mentions either

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 06:29 PM
am kinda surprised no Montana mentions either

I did.

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 06:31 PM
I changed rule #2; to up 5 players per decade allowed

cardsnstuff
12-04-2019, 06:31 PM
I did.

my bad, didn't see that

rats60
12-04-2019, 07:01 PM
I changed rule #2; to up 5 players per decade allowed

Do you want us to pick one player per decade per sport or 5 players per decade per sport?

Peter_Spaeth
12-04-2019, 07:13 PM
Boxing anyone?
40s Ray Robinson
50s Marciano
60s Clay
70s Leonard?
80s Tyson
90s Mayweather

Rhotchkiss
12-04-2019, 07:16 PM
John Elway. Best player, any sport, any decade.

Great idea for thread. I will enjoy reading the lists.

Pre War Starter
12-04-2019, 07:21 PM
I am still trying to figure out how the OP put Carew for the 60’s when Carew only played 3 seasons in the 60’s????

Bigdaddy
12-04-2019, 09:14 PM
John Elway. Best player, any sport, any decade.

Great idea for thread. I will enjoy reading the lists.

You're from Colorado?

JollyElm
12-04-2019, 09:26 PM
Although his RC is from 1969, gotta give the 70's to 'Mr. October,' Reginald Martinez Jackson.

rats60
12-04-2019, 09:53 PM
I am still trying to figure out how the OP put Carew for the 60’s when Carew only played 3 seasons in the 60’s????

His question is confusing. Does he want the best players with Rcs in the decade or best player in the decade also with a rookie card in the decade?

cardsnstuff
12-05-2019, 03:38 AM
His question is confusing. Does he want the best players with Rcs in the decade or best player in the decade also with a rookie card in the decade?

I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade. And I did change to 5 players per decade and per sport

Someone brought up Reggie Jackson, I could see why u want to list him as a 70's contender, his rookie was 1969, But does he make the top 5 of 60's players, whose rc was in the 60's? actually, maybe. It doesn't matter when their career ended.

Rhotchkiss
12-05-2019, 05:33 AM
You're from Colorado?

No. Washington DC. But I have been a Broncos fan since I was about 7 (I am 45 now). And I am now super excited for Drew Locke!

1890s: Wagner
1900s: Cobb
1910s: Ruth
1920s: Gehrig
1930s: Dimaggio

rats60
12-05-2019, 06:28 AM
I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade. And I did change to 5 players per decade and per sport

Someone brought up Reggie Jackson, I could see why u want to list him as a 70's contender, his rookie was 1969, But does he make the top 5 of 60's players, whose rc was in the 60's? actually, maybe. It doesn't matter when their career ended.

Then that pretty much eliminates anyone who didn't have a RC the first couple years of the decade.

50s Mays, Mantle, Mathews, Ford, Minoso
60s Yaz, McCovey, Santo, Marichal, Billy Williams
70s Munson, Blyleven, Schmidt, Grich, Cedeno
80s Henderson, Raines, Ripken, Sandberg, Boggs
90s Thomas, Bagwell, Pedro.Martinez, Walker, Loften
00s Pujols, Ichiro, Utley, Johan Santana, Roy Oswalt

Peter_Spaeth
12-05-2019, 06:41 AM
By those criteria, Chipper Jones and Miguel Cabrera should be on your list.

rats60
12-05-2019, 08:04 AM
Basketball
50s Pettit, Cousy, Sharman, Schayes, Arizin
60s Chamberlain, West, Big O, Baylor, Havlicek
70s Dr J, Maravich, Archibald, Barry, Cowens
80s Magic, Bird, Thomas, Jordan, Olajuwon
90s Shaq, Payton, Hill, Tim Hardaway, Mourning
00s LeBron, Wade, Anthony, Ming, Howard

or if counting player's whole career

50s Russell, Pettit, Cousy, Schayes, Arizin
60s Chamberlain, West, Big O, Baylor, Jabbar
70s Dr J, Barry, Archibald, Moses Malone, Gervin
80s Magic, Bird, Jordan, Olajuwon, David Robinson
90s Shaq, Garnett, Kobe, Duncan, Nowitzki
00s LeBron, Wade, Durant, Curry, Harden

rats60
12-05-2019, 08:14 AM
By those criteria, Chipper Jones and Miguel Cabrera should be on your list.

Cabrera didn't make the majors until 2003 and that was a partial season. Chipper's first season was 1995. Neither produced enough to make the top 5. I'm really not sure the point of this, but they would be top 20 players of the decade with Rcs in that decade. It took enough work to get the top 5, someone else can go deeper if they like.

If we want a true top 100 list, take the top 20 rookie cards per decade and count the player's whole career. Many of those guys who are top 5 only counting the years of the decade, wouldn't even make a top 20 list. For basketball, Bill Russell just missed the 50s list because he doesn't have enough time and Jabbar only gets one year, no chance at making it. For baseball, guys like Bob Gibson, Reggie Jackson and Ken Griffey Jr only get one year, so again no chance. For the OP, Carew, Bonds and Peyton Manning, not enough time to make the list. Brown and Walter Payton would be close, probably not top 5, but top 20.

Peter_Spaeth
12-05-2019, 08:15 AM
Cabrera did make the majors in 2003 and that was a partial season. Chipper's first season was 1995. Neither produced enough to make the top 5. I'm really not sure the point of this, but they would be top 20 players of the decade with Rcs in that decade, but to go more than 5 took enough work, someone else can go deeper if they like.

I interpret it to mean the top five RCs of the decade but agree with you it's not clear.

cardsnstuff
12-05-2019, 08:39 AM
I interpret it to mean the top five RCs of the decade but agree with you it's not clear.

I guess I was trying to come up with my own list of my own top 100; perhaps 15-20 per decade per sport. My wife says I need to improve my communication skills so anyone that can reword for me, I appreciate it. But I thought as us collectors would have much more insight.

hysell
12-05-2019, 09:00 AM
The { BIG } problem is , this point ! A lot of these players have there ROOKIES in a decade & didn't play /played vary little in that decade ? SO, with that said , MOST of there stats are in the FOLLOWING decade ?????:eek:

nat
12-05-2019, 09:08 AM
I'm going to play by my own rules.

Greatest player with a rookie card in the corresponding decade:

1950s: Willie Mays. At their respective peaks Mantle was comparable, but Mays kept it up much longer.

1960s: Johnny Bench. This pick makes me wonder if I'm forgetting someone. He was great and all, but it sure is a drop-off from the 50s.

1970s: Mike Schmidt. The greatest third baseman of all time.

1980s: Barry Bonds. Second only to Ruth.

1990s: Alex Rodriguez.

2000s: Albert Pujols.

2010s: Mike Trout. This one is way early - who knows what Juan Soto will end up doing - but I'm still comfortable with it. There are two things that make Trout so astoundingly great: he was great extremely young, and he's extremely consistent. Think about this: excepting his cup of coffee in 2011, the year in which he had his WORST on-base percentage he also won the MVP award. By WAR the year in which he had his second-lowest score he won an MVP award. And his third lowest. He's an MVP-caliber player even when he's not playing well (by his standards).

rats60
12-05-2019, 11:38 AM
I interpret it to mean the top five RCs of the decade but agree with you it's not clear.

That is why I asked and was told "I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade." Now it seems like he is wanting top 5 players whose RC is in the decade. So, a different list.

50s Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, Koufax
60s Yaz, Rose, Morgan, Seaver, Bench
70s Schmidt, Brett, Yount, Molitor, Ozzie Smith
80s Henderson, Ripken, Boggs, Maddux, Griffey
90s Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Pedro Martinez, Bagwell, Beltre
00s Cabrera, Pujols, Ichiro, Kershaw, Trout

I am excluding known steroid users so Bonds, Arod and Clemens are disqualified. I have seen nothing but rumors about Bagwell, so he is on my list. I go by the original definition for RC, so the 2009 Bowman Chrome Trout is his RC, not the rookie logo card.

Peter_Spaeth
12-05-2019, 12:12 PM
I would rate Gibson over Koufax.
I think I would rate Murray over Molitor who never did much for me.
I would take The Big Unit over Boggs.

cardsnstuff
12-05-2019, 12:41 PM
That is why I asked and was told "I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade." Now it seems like he is wanting top 5 players whose RC is in the decade. So, a different list.

50s Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, Koufax
60s Yaz, Rose, Morgan, Seaver, Bench
70s Schmidt, Brett, Yount, Molitor, Ozzie Smith
80s Henderson, Ripken, Boggs, Maddux, Griffey
90s Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Pedro Martinez, Bagwell, Thome
00s Cabrera, Pujols, Ichiro, Kershaw, Trout

I am excluding known steroid users so Bonds, Arod and Clemens are disqualified. I have seen nothing but rumors about Bagwell, so he is on my list. I go by the original definition for RC, so the 2009 Bowman Chrome Trout is his RC, not the rookie logo card.

I like the above, very good choices. The reason I switched to top 5; is I thought it was to hard to name just 1 player in any given decade. It would be interesting to see overall top 5 per decade if I threw the rc rule. I just thought made it tougher.

rats60
12-05-2019, 03:31 PM
I like the above, very good choices. The reason I switched to top 5; is I thought it was to hard to name just 1 player in any given decade. It would be interesting to see overall top 5 per decade if I threw the rc rule. I just thought made it tougher.

That makes sense. Here is my NFL list.

50s Otto Graham, Unitas, Dick Lane, Raymond Berry, Brown
60s Nitschke, Deacon Jones, Bob Lilly, Butkus, Sayers
70s Simpson, Page, Greene, Lambert, Payton
80s Montana, Taylor, Rice, R. White, B. Sanders
90s E. Smith, Favre, R. Lewis, P. Manning, Moss
00s Brady, Brees, Tomlinson, Fitzgerald, Rodgers

Peter_Spaeth
12-05-2019, 03:39 PM
That makes sense. Here is my NFL list.

50s Otto Graham, Unitas, Dick Lane, Raymond Berry, Brown
60s Nitschke, Deacon Jones, Bob Lilly, Butkus, Sayers
70s Simpson, Page, Greene, Lambert, Payton
80s Montana, Taylor, Rice, R. White, B. Sanders
90s E. Smith, Favre, R. Lewis, P. Manning, Moss
00s Brady, Brees, Tomlinson, Fitzgerald, Rodgers

Great lists.
Starr over Lane?
I'd be tempted to take Ed Reed over Tomlinson.

rats60
12-05-2019, 04:10 PM
Great lists.
Starr over Lane?
I'd be tempted to take Ed Reed over Tomlinson.

I originally had Reed on but bumped him for Fitz. Starr is definitely worthy too, it was down to him, Berry and Marchetti for my last 50s slot.

On the Baseball list Murray and R Johnson were my 6th picks. I prefer Koufax's peak over Gibson's career and I love Gibby. I really need 10 for the 50s, that was the most talented decade by far.

Peter_Spaeth
12-05-2019, 05:03 PM
I originally had Reed on but bumped him for Fitz. Starr is definitely worthy too, it was down to him, Berry and Marchetti for my last 50s slot.

On the Baseball list Murray and R Johnson were my 6th picks. I prefer Koufax's peak over Gibson's career and I love Gibby. I really need 10 for the 50s, that was the most talented decade by far.

80s FB is tough too, leaving out Elway, Marino, B. Smith. and Lott.

evangeleblanc
12-07-2019, 09:58 PM
Baseball

00s: Honus Wagner
10s: Shoeless Joe Jackson (if I have to exclude
T206ers, otherwise Walter Johnson)
20s: Frankie Frisch (lol rookie card rule is hard here, really want Rogers Hornsby)
30s: Lou Gehrig
40s: Lou Boudreau
50s: Willie Mays
60s: Juan Marichal
70s: Bert Blyleven
80s: Rickey Henderson
90s: Frank Thomas (probably Jeff Bagwell, but I think he was juicing)
2000s: Albert Pujols
2010s: Mike Trout

rats60
12-08-2019, 07:15 AM
Baseball

00s: Honus Wagner
10s: Shoeless Joe Jackson (if I have to exclude
T206ers, otherwise Walter Johnson)
20s: Frankie Frisch (lol rookie card rule is hard here, really want Rogers Hornsby)
30s: Lou Gehrig
40s: Lou Boudreau
50s: Willie Mays
60s: Juan Marichal
70s: Bert Blyleven
80s: Rickey Henderson
90s: Frank Thomas (probably Jeff Bagwell, but I think he was juicing)
2000s: Albert Pujols
2010s: Mike Trout

1900s Honus Wagner
1910s Babe Ruth
1920s Lou Gehrig
1930s Ted Williams
1940s Stan Musial