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Popcorn
10-02-2019, 04:42 PM
ouch! someone has no eye and too much money.
noob tip: if a seller is selling video games and a 100k raw card it’s probably fake.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-151-Rookie-Card-With-Genuine-1916-SPORTING-NEWS-Ad-on-the-back-/153653595920?LH_All=1&hash=item23c677cf10%3Ag%3AqYQAAOSw7GZdh9Q9&nma=true&si=9dpWcBdatYbdhXJiqIj6qKwqKY4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
oldjudge
10-02-2019, 04:54 PM
What on the card makes you believe it is a fake?
Popcorn
10-02-2019, 05:29 PM
perfectly rounded corners
horrible print, you can’t see the babes face... way too dark.
upper right black boarder does not connect, just like the $2 fakes on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Babe-Ruth-Rookie-Baseball-Card-1916-M101-5-Reprint-The-Sporting-News-back/183883007291?hash=item2ad048053b:g:EeoAAOSw4aRdKlz q
This isn't going to end well for the ebayer thinking they got a steal. :eek:
The fact that 14 of the top 16 bidders had 0 feedback is a yellow flag. The last real bidder had a bid of 99 bucks and was probably sweating a bit to be out bid. But that 0 feedback bidder, after him, took it from 99 bucks to 11k LOL...kind of greedy if you ask me....hope the winner likes their new novelty card. LOL....
https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/153653595920?item=153653595920&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565
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calvindog
10-02-2019, 05:42 PM
This isn't going to end well for the ebayer thinking they got a steal. :eek:
The fact that 14 of the top 16 bidders had 0 feedback is a yellow flag. The last real bidder had a bid of 99 bucks and was probably sweating a bit to be out bid. But that 0 feedback bidder, after him, took it from 99 bucks to 11k LOL...kind of greedy if you ask me....hope the winner likes their new novelty card. LOL....
https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/153653595920?item=153653595920&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565
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Yeah, the bidding makes clear that there was only one poor sap who bid more than $99. I really hope the high bidder was a shill as well but I suspect not.
oldjudge
10-02-2019, 05:50 PM
Dark face is not a killer. However, I agree that will probably end poorly, I just don’t see signs that tell me with certainty that the card is bad.
Dark face is not a killer. However, I agree that will probably end poorly, I just don’t see signs that tell me with certainty that the card is bad.
You know more than I do about them Jay but when I look at the card it just doesn't look right. The photo is just off. A bit fuzzy looking. That along with the perfectly rounded corners and look ma, no creases, make me very, very skeptical.
The days are long gone when you could easily tell fakes by the large white gap between the border and picture. It is scamming 102 now..
..and those bids after 99 bucks are not very reassuring.
oldjudge
10-02-2019, 06:29 PM
The original poster made it seem like there was an obvious trait that made the card bad. I did not see one. Do I think it is good-no, but that is from factors outside the image. Dark happens, even symmetrically rounded corner can theoretically happen. I agree that is many cases you just can’t tell from the image. However, doesn’t PSA have a buyer protection plan so if the card is not legit they will reimburse the buyer if the seller does not?
The original poster made it seem like there was an obvious trait that made the card bad. I did not see one. Do I think it is good-no, but that is from factors outside the image. Dark happens, even symmetrically rounded corner can theoretically happen. I agree that is many cases you just can’t tell from the image. However, doesn’t PSA have a buyer protection plan so if the card is not legit they will reimburse the buyer if the seller does not?
They might if they graded it.
I guess anything can theoretically happen. I was recently told that by someone concerning a card I have. They said well, maybe it is the first card ever done like that. I said "maybe".
oldjudge
10-02-2019, 06:37 PM
My bad-I meant EBay buyer protection plan
My bad-I meant EBay buyer protection plan
Yes there is but regardless the buyer who thought he got a great deal is safe. There are clear terms of 30 days for a refund.
sycks22
10-02-2019, 07:15 PM
I was more interested in the Berenstein bears book he sold for $2.
Hxcmilkshake
10-02-2019, 07:18 PM
I was more interested in the Berenstein bears book he sold for $2.But was it authentic? Lot of fake bears out there....
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Popcorn
10-02-2019, 07:41 PM
The original poster made it seem like there was an obvious trait that made the card bad. I did not see one. Do I think it is good-no, but that is from factors outside the image. Dark happens, even symmetrically rounded corner can theoretically happen. I agree that is many cases you just can’t tell from the image. However, doesn’t PSA have a buyer protection plan so if the card is not legit they will reimburse the buyer if the seller does not?
ebay buyer protection is great, but for high value item it’s sketchy.
like any business they do not want to be on the hook for thousands of dollars.
i’ve dealt with high value claims and trust me they are completely dense when it comes to sports cards.
Yastrzemski Sports
10-02-2019, 07:52 PM
If they act quickly and send it to PSA - they can get it back in a couple of weeks - in time to file a case. Of course they will be out either 500 or 1000 for the 1 day grading fee.
The top one is from the auction. To me the 151 font looks off. Not to mention the stock color.
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toledo_mudhen
10-03-2019, 04:35 AM
Why would a guy with nearly 8000 Feedback risk $11K on a deal that is obviously just "too good to be true"?
I cant imagine anyone trying to sell a legitimate Ruth RC that is NOT in a PSA/SGC slab.
murphy8276
10-03-2019, 04:14 PM
I was more interested in the Berenstein bears book he sold for $2.
Berenstain is the correct spelling, unfortunately, but I and most of the world feel like it should be the way you spelled it from our childhood. We supposedly have been affected by the Mandela Effect (https://mandelaeffect.com/berenstein-or-berenstain-bears/).
topcat61
10-04-2019, 10:22 AM
With this card in particular, there are things that raise my suspicions. First, I would never purchase a card like this ungraded and/or off ebay. There are way too many fakes and scammers. Secondly, a blacklight helps, but so does a gram scale and knowing what to look for in the ink.
The bidding itself is suspect. I thought at first a shill -the bidder with the (0) and that could be, but the guy who ended up with the final bid should have put a little more thought into it. Looks sketch and I'd watch the seller's past and future activity.
1952boyntoncollector
10-04-2019, 12:30 PM
maybe the buyer of this card will be on the net54 thread about doing a too good to be true deal that turned out great......
KMayUSA6060
10-04-2019, 12:39 PM
That's a hefty donation to the Kansas City Children's Mercy Hospital. Should've just sent the entire $11k to them, instead of 10% while the scammer gets 90%.
That's a hefty donation to the Kansas City Children's Mercy Hospital. Should've just sent the entire $11k to them, instead of 10% while the scammer gets 90%.
I especially dislike it when scammers use charity or religion in their schemes. God Bless.....
1952boyntoncollector
10-05-2019, 04:57 PM
I especially dislike it when scammers use charity or religion in their schemes. God Bless.....
real sellers do the same thing though...or say stuff like its sooo urgent....i have to sell for taxes or medical bills, yet card listed for a year so guess not urgent..
It's only urgent to make a big profit!
real sellers do the same thing though...or say stuff like its sooo urgent....i have to sell for taxes or medical bills, yet card listed for a year so guess not urgent..