Yes, I am a glutton for punishment!! (OCT) GRADES POSTED!!

[bobbyw8469]

Anyone interest in subbing under bulk?? Raw cards abound in my humble abode. Let me know....

[Republicaninmass]

Pre 55 ok?

[bobbyw8469]

Pre 55 ok?

Yes....everything is OK as long as standard size or smaller. No pins or coins.

[Thromdog]

I’m in

[Republicaninmass]

Only have 5 or 6

[bobbyw8469]

Only have 5 or 6


That's good. We need to have at least 100, and I got 50 myself.

[JollyElm]

I'm pretty sure I can dredge up some cards, Bobby.

[bobbyw8469]

I'm pretty sure I can dredge up some cards, Bobby.

Same...lol

[Jason]

Bobby, I have about 6-8 cards I have been needing to have graded by PSA. I’ll gladly join your sub. I have seen your others in the past and think your communication through every step is top notch. Thank you for having another.

[pokerplyr80]

how much per card?

[jcc6252]

Bobby, I'm in again for a few.

[Baseballcrazy62]

FWIW: PSA has a quarterly special for pre 1960 cards with only a 25 card minimum and 45 day turnaround. You probably already know that but a 45 day turn is better than the 85 day turn on bulk submissions. I broke a large bulk submission into 4 smaller ones at the National and am curious what the results will be.

[Mike D.]

I’d love to take part (my first ever PSA submission).

Thanks for organizing this!

[bobbyw8469]

FWIW: PSA has a quarterly special for pre 1960 cards with only a 25 card minimum and 45 day turnaround. You probably already know that but a 45 day turn is better than the 85 day turn on bulk submissions. I broke a large bulk submission into 4 smaller ones at the National and am curious what the results will be.

That is good, but I do like the BULK subs, because there are ZERO limitations.....old cards....new cards.......doesn't matter.

[bobbyw8469]

how much per card?

$9 per card/.....$8 for PSA and $1 per card to help cover shipping to and from Cali.

[lowpopper]

Do it.

I can send cards this week.

[JollyElm]

Opinions needed...

I have this 1968 Mantle with an ST qualifier. The 'stain' is a tiny bit of gum/wax in front of his face, and it could be eliminated immediately with a quick wipe of the panty hose (don't get me started on my hatred of the 'stain' designation with regards to wax on the front of a card)...

362608

Should I do it? Obviously, the only reason I would is because I want the card to be more 'valuable' due to the lack of a qualifier, but I would be annoyed if it came back as a lower grade (which is always a possibility) and/or possibly graded with an OC qualifier instead, because I just realized it is somewhat uncomfortably close to the bottom (and left) border.

[Fred]

Opinions needed...

I have this 1968 Mantle with an ST qualifier. The 'stain' is a tiny bit of gum/wax in front of his face, and it could be eliminated immediately with a quick wipe of the panty hose (don't get me started on my hatred of the 'stain' designation with regards to wax on the front of a card)...

362608

Should I do it? Obviously, the only reason I would is because I want the card to be more 'valuable' due to the lack of a qualifier, but I would be annoyed if it came back as a lower grade (which is always a possibility) and/or possibly graded with an OC qualifier instead, because I just realized it is somewhat uncomfortably close to the bottom (and left) border.


I wouldn't do it. You're right, you don't know what you're going to get.

[pokerplyr80]

$9 per card/.....$8 for PSA and $1 per card to help cover shipping to and from Cali.

Sounds reasonable. I have some I can send.

[stutor]

I have a few I would love to add. Is there a maximum value?

[1880nonsports]

if you're silly enuff to repeat yourself I then have 4/5 space cards for you!

[tjb1952tjb]

I'll have a few to send to you. Thanks again Bobby.

[toledo_mudhen]

Crossovers?

[BruceinGa]

I have some. Are 1955 Bowmans considered standard?
Thanks for doing this again.

[cubman1941]

I'm in again, thanks again for doing this for us!!

[Vintagevault13]

Anyone interest in subbing under bulk?? Raw cards abound in my humble abode. Let me know....



I have never submitted a card before. Is there a maximum value for a bulk sub? Thanks


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[Fuddjcal]

I have a few that I would like to Pop

[whitey19thcentury]

In. When do you need the cards by?

[Leon]

I have a few that I would like to Pop

behave :)

[PowderedH2O]

Tall boys ok?

[botport]

Please count me in for 3/4 subs of T206

[bobbyw8469]

Max value 100. 55 bowmans OK. Tall boys ok as long as they arent too big

[teza11]

I'm in. Let's set a cut-off date.

Jeff

[steve B]

I'm in. Let's set a cut-off date.

Jeff

Funny, but not really the right place....ooohhhhh as in last date to get cards inb, not a trimming reference.... nevermind..

I miss the old SNL.

[JollyElm]

Yeah, have Jon Lovitz looking at a card..."It's a PSA 3, no wait...now it's a PSA 9...that's the ticket!"

[bobbyw8469]

Sounds like plenty of interest.,

[bobbyw8469]

We are ON....for those who have subbed before, you know the routine. For those that haven't here ya go. Send the cards in a CARD SAVER 1 or 2!!! They must be STANDARD SIZE. No oversized cards!!! Include a slip of paper stating the cards, and what you classify them as. Your net 54 handle (so I can know how to contact you), and your return shipping address. Also, the value you place on the cards. This is FAIR VALUE - what you want to be reimbursed should PSA damage your cards. Don't lie and say a $5 card is worth $99. PSA will want you to prove it.
You can include a check or paypal/venmo me once I confirm receipt. DO NOT PAY BEFORE HAND. It's easier when everyone does the same thing.

The cost is $9 per card. $8 is what PSA charges, and the extra $1 per card helps defray the shipping cost TO and FROM California. For this type of bulk sub, there are NO YEARLY limitations. Every year is good, however, the value per card CAN NOT exceed $100. That's it.

Robert Williams
PO Box 61362
Raleigh, NC 27661-1362

[Mike D.]

Bobby,

What about return shipping from you to us? You must need more than $1 to cover that. Sorry...my first time and want to make sure I pay correctly!

Thank you!

[bobbyw8469]

Bobby,

What about return shipping from you to us? You must need more than $1 to cover that. Sorry...my first time and want to make sure I pay correctly!

Thank you!

After the dust settles, you are repsonsible for return shipping back to you. I have no way to guesstimate that due to the weight of the slabs, and not all cards might not get graded. After everything gets weighed out and you decide if you need insurance or not, then we can determine return shipping back to you. So yes....there are some costs involved....but it is pretty painless.

[Mike D.]

Thanks Bobby...makes perfect sense.

Now, I just need to buy some magnification so my old eyes can pick what cards to submit!

[drcy]

I don't agree with bobby on PSA topics, but admire his ability to boldly stand up for himself.

[MidnightMarauders]

I'm In! Will try to ship Wednesday.

[BruceinGa]

I should be able to ship mine Wednesday also.
Thanks Bobby!

[murphy8276]

Are you able to do reviews as part of this bulk deal? Typically you would just pay an additional shipping cost, but not sure you have factored that in? I will send roughly 25 if so.

Thanks

[bobbyw8469]

Are you able to do reviews as part of this bulk deal? Typically you would just pay an additional shipping cost, but not sure you have factored that in? I will send roughly 25 if so.

Thanks

Reviews are NOT part of the deal. These will all be raw cards.

[murphy8276]

Reviews are NOT part of the deal. These will all be raw cards.

Okay no problem. I will still consider if I can send you some, but I need to submit for review more. Maybe you can do a 2nd sub of reviews only sometime?

[The-Cardfather]

Hi Bobby.

Count me in for around 20.

I'll have them in the mail to you by Friday.

[teza11]

Hi Bobby,

I have 20 cards going out USPS Priority in tomorrow's mail. Please confirm receipt via pm.

Thanks,
Jeff

[OldEnglishD]

I will be sending you some cards as well. Thanks for putting this together!

Dave

[cardsnstuff]

I may do a few, when do you need cards by? and where do I send to?

[bobbyw8469]

I may do a few, when do you need cards by? and where do I send to?

Address posted earlier in the thread to avoid these types of questions...lol...as far as WHEN.....Let's say by Sept 15....although that date always gets moved due to stragglers.

[BruceinGa]

Address posted earlier in the thread to avoid these types of questions...lol...as far as WHEN.....Let's say by Sept 15....although that date always gets moved due to stragglers (procrastinators):p.
Call it like it is.;)

[pclpads]

Bobby - thanks so much for doing this . . . AGAIN!!

I have one '61 Union Oil PCL card. Size is 3" x 4". Sokay? Also a few Topps '52.

[bobbyw8469]

The 1952 Topps are definitely OK.....they CAN NOT be bigger than Tall Boys....here is the largest they can be....

3 1/2" x 5 1/6

They MUST be that size or smaller. And cards only. No pins. No coins.

[Sean]

Hi Bob, I have 10 T206 that I'll send later this week. Thanks again.

[PowderedH2O]

Bobby, same here. Getting together about 10-15 by early next week.

[BruceinGa]

I sent 18 yesterday, 8/21.
Thanks

[Republicaninmass]

Yes, when are they needed by?

[bobbyw8469]

Yes, when are they needed by?

Sept 15th

[lowpopper]

Sent. Thanks Bobby

[wondo]

Three little cards on their way - thank you. Make it Four!!!

[JollyElm]

Bobby, I have this 1997 Topps Certified Autograph Willie Mays card. Does it count...or does the auto throw a monkey wrench into the works?

363776

Wouldn't mind getting it into a protective slab. Have a Tony Gonzalez somewhere, too.

[bobbyw8469]

Bobby, I have this 1997 Topps Certified Autograph Willie Mays card. Does it count...or does the auto throw a monkey wrench into the works?

363776

Wouldn't mind getting it into a protective slab. Have a Tony Gonzalez somewhere, too.

I forgot the date range....new cards are OK....but yes...it throws a monkey into the wrench...I think...they won't grade the auto.

[wondo]

Was it shipped?
Was it received?
Was it logged?
Any update?
Any update?
What step is it on?
Grading?
Assembly?
QA one or two?
Shipped?
Didja get them yet?
Where are my cards?

Just thought I’d get these out of the way up front. 🤓

And, last but not least - THANKS, BOBBY!!

[bobbyw8469]

Was it shipped?
Was it received?
Was it logged?
Any update?
Any update?
What step is it on?
Grading?
Assembly?
QA one or two?
Shipped?
Didja get them yet?
Where are my cards?

Just thought I’d get these out of the way up front. 🤓

And, last but not least - THANKS, BOBBY!!

LOL....I don't think some of the guys realize how time consuming this is.......

[Mike D.]

Bobby,

Sent 8 cards your way today...estimated delivery is Tuesday.

Just realized I meant to include a check but forgot...will pay via PayPal!

Thanks again for doing this...didn’t send anything high value, but interested to see what grades they get (yes, I understand I could have a LONG wait!)

[swarmee]

I forgot the date range....new cards are OK....but yes...it throws a monkey into the wrench...I think...they won't grade the auto.
Have to send the Mays on a dual submission, not bulk. Misses the year cutoff by one.

[JollyElm]

I forgot the date range....new cards are OK....but yes...it throws a monkey into the wrench...I think...they won't grade the auto.

Just to clarify. I couldn't care less what the autograph is graded, I just want the card itself graded (so it'll be protected inside a slab). Is that okay, or is it a no-go?? The card was issued/put in a pack with the autograph on it, so it's not like submitting some random card that I got signed later, right?

[swarmee]

Just to clarify. I couldn't care less what the autograph is graded, I just want the card itself graded (so it'll be protected inside a slab).
1998-present pack pulled cards are okay for PSA in bulk submissions, not before. Must go through PSA/DNA dual service to get this card graded.

Autographed cards dated pre-1998 and/or those not directly from the manufacturer must be sent through Card and Autograph Dual Service (fee may vary depending on card value, see listed restrictions and requirements). Autographed cards dated 1998 and later (direct from manufacturer) can be sent through any of the services listed above (note restrictions and requirements for each level).

https://www.psacard.com/fees/#cards

[Copa7]

I may have 4 or 5 cards. Will send by September 10.

[lowpopper]

All paid up. Bobby, thank you again. These community subs are fun.

:cool:!

[Republicaninmass]

7 1952 topps heading your way

[pokerplyr80]

LOL....I don't think some of the guys realize how time consuming this is.......

I can imagine. Thanks for putting this together. I will get my cards sent out Wednesday or Thursday.

[jbl79]

Just sent out 11 cards to you.

[nsaddict]

Are 52-55 Red Mans too big?

[JollyElm]

More advice needed...

In scanning through my cards to find ones worthy of grading through Bobby's group sub, I've come to a fork in the road. This second-year 1964 Pete Rose is obviously way off center and verging on miscut, but the card sells for a decent amount in all grades, so I'd like to have it graded simply to make it easier to move sometime down the road (hopefully a long time from now).

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Here's the problem. The corners are nicely squared and the only really visible 'problem' is that tiny notch (so to speak) at the top (which looks 1000% worse in the scan than it does in real life). But, and it's a big but...on back there are 4 microscopic black dots that I have to assume are marks. No matter how much they are magnified, I can't tell what the heck they are, and the cardboard isn't indented from a pen. If this card was graded, I assume the MK qualifier would take precedence, correct? Even though it's wildly OC, it would get whatever grade they deem it is with an MK on the label, or does it get downgraded due to the centering PLUS the added qualifier??


As an example, here's a random Pete Rose RC (screengrab from ebay) that is also obviously way OC, but it got a ST designation instead...
365248

Should I get my '64 Rose graded? Opinions are very welcome.

[bobbyw8469]

More advice needed...

In scanning through my cards to find ones worthy of grading through Bobby's group sub, I've come to a fork in the road. This second-year 1964 Pete Rose is obviously way off center and verging on miscut, but the card sells for a decent amount in all grades, so I'd like to have it graded simply to make it easier to move sometime down the road (hopefully a long time from now).

365246365247

Here's the problem. The corners are nicely squared and the only really visible 'problem' is that tiny notch (so to speak) at the top (which looks 1000% worse in the scan than it does in real life). But, and it's a big but...on back there are 4 microscopic black dots that I have to assume are marks. No matter how much they are magnified, I can't tell what the heck they are, and the cardboard isn't indented from a pen. If this card was graded, I assume the MK qualifier would take precedence, correct? Even though it's wildly OC, it would get whatever grade they deem it is with an MK on the label, or does it get downgraded due to the centering PLUS the added qualifier??


As an example, here's a random Pete Rose RC (screengrab from ebay) that is also obviously way OC, but it got a ST designation instead...
365248

Should I get my '64 Rose graded? Opinions are very welcome.

I would get the Rose graded and not think twice about it.

[bobbyw8469]

Up to 295 and cards still coming in.

[nsaddict]

I sent 20 yesterday via Priority.

[bobbyw8469]

322

[Gradedcardman]

Opinions needed...

I have this 1968 Mantle with an ST qualifier. The 'stain' is a tiny bit of gum/wax in front of his face, and it could be eliminated immediately with a quick wipe of the panty hose (don't get me started on my hatred of the 'stain' designation with regards to wax on the front of a card)...

362608

Should I do it? Obviously, the only reason I would is because I want the card to be more 'valuable' due to the lack of a qualifier, but I would be annoyed if it came back as a lower grade (which is always a possibility) and/or possibly graded with an OC qualifier instead, because I just realized it is somewhat uncomfortably close to the bottom (and left) border.

Yes do it

[Copa7]

I'd consider it, but SGC just ran a special on our page. And the wait time is just shorter.

But thanks. Maybe next time.

[JollyElm]

Yes do it

Knock on wood. I decided to crack it out and it literally took one swipe of the panty hose to eliminate the dreaded "STAIN." PSA really has to re-establish their official stain guidelines. Gum residue on the glossy surface of a card (especially if it's very small) isn't a stain. Spilling root beer on my 1984 Topps Don Mattingly is a frickin' stain.

[bobbyw8469]

SGC gets nowhere near the money PSA does. Period. I wish they did. But they don't.

We are up to 350.

[murphy8276]

SGC gets nowhere near the money PSA does. Period. I wish they did. But they don't.

We are up to 350.

Maybe we should call psa and get us a discount.

[bobbyw8469]

Maybe we should call psa and get us a discount.


LOL...yea right.......already tried.....not happening.....350 isn't enough to warrant a discount. If we had 350,000...then yes...maybe.

[bnorth]

LOL...yea right.......already tried.....not happening.....350 isn't enough to warrant a discount. If we had 350,000...then yes...maybe.

Didn't you contact the member on here that has been called out several times on BO in the trimming scandal? What did he say? I think he still posts on here saying he can get discounts at PSA.

[bobbyw8469]

Didn't you contact the member on here that has been called out several times on BO in the trimming scandal? What did he say? I think he still posts on here saying he can get discounts at PSA.

I don't know who you refer to? I do remember one guy saying he got discounts. But I never saw how that was possible. Because they just DO NOT give discounts. That would be like Disney saying you can get in the park for $20. It just ain't happening.

[mullings]

I'm in with 9 cards, hockey and baseball. Thanks for all your updates for past cards

[Huck]

Bobby,

12 cards coming your way. The package should be there on Monday. That is what the postmaster claimed.

Thank you for undertaking this effort.

[Republicaninmass]

Sept 15thAny people missing the cutoff of tomorrow?


Has it been extended?

The due date was posted a while back, and if not changed, everyone has had ample time to get their cards in

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[bobbyw8469]

Any people missing the cutoff of tomorrow?


Has it been extended?

The due date was posted a while back, and if not changed, everyone has had ample time to get their cards in

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Agreed....there as always stragglers........

[pokerplyr80]

I will admit I got mine sent off later than I had hoped. They arrived today. Thanks for your understanding and for putting this together Bobby.

[bobbyw8469]

463. Stragglers please let me know!!!! Trying to wind this up.

[bobbyw8469]

475

[bobbyw8469]

Trying to wind this thing up!!!! Please let me know if cards are enroute!!!!

[Republicaninmass]

Hey wait, I have some more I just won on Ebay


No I dont, I've followed the rules


No repercussions for those who cant means they will continue

[bnorth]

Hey wait, I have some more I just won on Ebay


No I dont, I've followed the rules


No repercussions for those who cant means they will continue

I agree, Bobby is WAY too nice when he does these.

[Republicaninmass]

And they are a huge pain in the butt to begin with!

[bobbyw8469]

And they are a huge pain in the butt to begin with!

Huge....

[Mike D.]

Just scanned the last few posts quickly to save time, but I think I got the gist of it...Bobby...really nice...huge butt... :eek:

[1880nonsports]

thanks again for doing this. As for the cutoff - that would all be on you. Think there was plenty of time to effectuate the deal but hey I'm happy however it goes. While an SGC or ungraded guy I'm an OCD guy too - locked into my Tip Top Space set in PSA - no other real way for me to get it done.

[bobbyw8469]

thanks again for doing this. As for the cutoff - that would all be on you. Think there was plenty of time to effectuate the deal but hey I'm happy however it goes. While an SGC or ungraded guy I'm an OCD guy too - locked into my Tip Top Space set in PSA - no other real way for me to get it done.

The cutoff has come and gone...I just don't want to pull the ship off the dock if some people had a long layover. You get my drift?

[nsaddict]

Have cards been shipped off to PSA yet? I’m already in, was curious as nothing has been mentioned?

[bobbyw8469]

Have cards been shipped off to PSA yet? I’m already in, was curious as nothing has been mentioned?

Becuase I am waiting on stragglers.....nothing has changed....it is like this EVERY TIME....especially even more so when the order is huge. This one is over 500 cards (biggest one yet).

[teza11]

Hi Bobby,

Can we get an update on this submission? The cut-off date was more than 3 weeks ago.

Thanks,
Jeff

[cubman1941]

Bobby,

Did the ship leave the dock?? Just wondering.

[swarmee]

Send him a PM; maybe he's on vacation. Hasn't logged into Net54 since Oct 4.

[cubman1941]

He probably needed a vacation after this one!!

[teza11]

After no response I did send Bobby an email. He replied that he's on vacation with limited access. Will look for an update upon his return.

Jeff

[cubman1941]

Jeff,
Thanks. It is a well deserved one after this latest one with over 500 cards!!

Jim

[bobbyw8469]

Now I need a vacation from my vacation. Went to Disney during the "off-season". Still a zoo. The cards are in PSA's possesion. NOT logged in yet.

[cubman1941]

I hear that - Disney is always crazy. Thanks for the update.

[T_Hamilton]

Just curious as this is my first ever PSA sub... when should we expect the grades to hit? a week? month? decade?

thanks!

[bobbyw8469]

Just curious as this is my first ever PSA sub... when should we expect the grades to hit? a week? month? decade?

thanks!


....Hmmm...hard to say....a rough guesstimate? Maybe late January, early Februrary???

[JunkyJoe]

Am I the only one who cracks up every time I see one of these "glutton for punishment" thread titles?

I just get this image of Will Ferrell getting spanked in some kind of weird dominatrix scene LOL.

[bobbyw8469]

We are officially logged in.

[wondo]

Over / Under is January 29th for the grades to post.

[pokerplyr80]

20 bucks on the over

[bobbyw8469]

Over / Under is January 29th for the grades to post.

Sounds about right. It was pretty eclectic (as usual), so I'll take the OVER for $5.

[h2oya311]

Now I need a vacation from my vacation. Went to Disney during the "off-season". Still a zoo. The cards are in PSA's possesion. NOT logged in yet.

You picked the wrong time to go. I was there last week as well. Very crowded, but not surprising. Arizona schools get a two week Fall Break in early October (and have a shortened summer due to the blazing heat and not much to do).
My 1st grader was off from school, so I got to enjoy the busiest, I mean the most expensive...I mean, the happiest place on earth. The past two weeks were literally the worst time to try to go to Disney but it was still worth it!

Anyway, welcome back. I'd like to get in on the next bulk sub you do.

[bobbyw8469]

You picked the wrong time to go. I was there last week as well. Very crowded, but not surprising. Arizona schools get a two week Fall Break in early October (and have a shortened summer due to the blazing heat and not much to do).
My 1st grader was off from school, so I got to enjoy the busiest, I mean the most expensive...I mean, the happiest place on earth. The past two weeks were literally the worst time to try to go to Disney but it was still worth it!

Anyway, welcome back. I'd like to get in on the next bulk sub you do.

Sure thing!! You are welcome anytime!! I'm constantly buying raw....and we have one Canadian submitter whose cards came in the day I mailed the package out....so there is already cards for the next sub,

As far as Disney, I thought Monday-Thursday wasn't too bad. Friday at Universal was a nightmare, and Saturday at Disney was pretty bad.

[BruceinGa]

Now I need a vacation from my vacation. Went to Disney during the "off-season". Still a zoo. The cards are in PSA's possesion. NOT logged in yet.

My son and his family were there last week.

Whoo hoo on the logged in!

[Republicaninmass]

Over / Under is January 29th for the grades to post.


Any more takers on over/under ;)

[pokerplyr80]

I actually forgot about this one. Maybe I will be surprised with a decent grade or two as well. Thanks again for putting this together.

[mullings]

I can send in 3or 4 to ensure your punishment is top notch

[BruceinGa]

I actually forgot about this one. Maybe I will be surprised with a decent grade or two as well. Thanks again for putting this together.

I also forgot about this one until a couple of days ago.
Thanks Bobby.

[bobbyw8469]

This one is still "RESEARCH AND ID"....thanks guys, for sending in so much oddball crap!!!

[wondo]

I'm thinking posted grades before Feb 1st.

[bobbyw8469]

I'm thinking posted grades before Feb 1st.

We haven't even left RESEARCH AND ID......so....not sure...I'd take the OVER if I were you.

[wondo]

We haven't even left RESEARCH AND ID......so....not sure...I'd take the OVER if I were you.

Oh ye of little faith!

[Mike D.]

We haven't even left RESEARCH AND ID......so....not sure...I'd take the OVER if I were you.

He didn't say what year. :p

[wondo]

I’m pretty sure today is the day!

[BruceinGa]

I'm guessing Feb 3 :D

[bobbyw8469]

I'm guessing Feb 3 :D

We haven't even left RESEARCH AND ID.

[Republicaninmass]

This one is still "RESEARCH AND ID"....thanks guys, for sending in so much oddball crap!!!Probably the same wankers who passed the original cut off date!

They'll be done

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[BruceinGa]

We haven't even left RESEARCH AND ID.

Oh, never mind. :o

[T_Hamilton]

Over/Under now at March 1st!

[buymycards]

PSA announced yesterday that their backlog is over one million cards. They are receiving an average of 68,000 cards per week and the backlog is growing.

In Dennis Purdy's article in VCBC , from 1996, he complained about PSA taking 43 days to process a 10-15 day submission.

This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

[Huck]

PSA announced yesterday that their backlog is over one million cards. They are receiving an average of 68,000 cards per week and the backlog is growing.


Wow, that volume is just insane. It makes me wonder about how much time is spent grading each card. If memory serves, in the beginning PSA touted that each card would be graded blind by three different people and then the final grade determined. I question if that is still the case for each card.

[wondo]

Waddya think, Bobby - is this week the week? ;)

[conor912]

Wow, that volume is just insane. It makes me wonder about how much time is spent grading each card. If memory serves, in the beginning PSA touted that each card would be graded blind by three different people and then the final grade determined. I question if that is still the case for each card.

My guess is it’s determined by declared value. I highly doubt they’re putting $20 cards in front of 3 sets of eyeballs, if they ever did at all.

[bobbyw8469]

My guess is it’s determined by declared value. I highly doubt they’re putting $20 cards in front of 3 sets of eyeballs, if they ever did at all.

Ditto.....at this rate, I am predicting early June.

[lowpopper]

I say grades pop in 3 weeks.

POP!

Oh no, big trigger word

pop pop pop

:cool::cool::cool:

[Republicaninmass]

march bump

[bobbyw8469]

We have entered the "grading" phase.....I did have to report a couple of errors PSA seems to have made.

[bobbyw8469]

Either our guys got is right or PSA guys fixed our guys mistakes. I'm voting that our guys got it right. One was an OBVIOUS PSA error, as they called a Sports Car a 400 when it clearly says 404. The other error involves calling the card the right type due to the back (A coupon card - similar to a T206).

[T_Hamilton]

We have entered the "grading" phase.....I did have to report a couple of errors PSA seems to have made.

What does "in the grading phase mean" from a time persepctive? first time PSA submission for me... so just want to know if I should expect to see grades pop soon or we still have a long time to go.

[Republicaninmass]

Grades can pop at any time

[bobbyw8469]

Grades can pop at any time

Agreed....but I do want those two incorrect labels corrected......If I had to guess, maybe 1-2 more weeks?

[bobbyw8469]

We have moved to assembly.

[Sean]

The Coupon in question is on the top row of this photo. Sorry it's sideways, and that I don't have a solo shot. But collectors can clearly see that it's a Type-2. Thanks for handling it Bob. 388137

388138

[buymycards]

Sean, that is a nice run!

[Sean]

Sean, that is a nice run!

Thanks Rick.

[Republicaninmass]

Gimme a Q...gimme an A, gimme a 1


QA1?

[bobbyw8469]

Gimme a Q...gimme an A, gimme a 1


QA1?

Nope....still in assembly....with 2 errors reported.

[T_Hamilton]

Nope....still in assembly....with 2 errors reported.

Over under on grades popping by EOD Friday?

[bobbyw8469]

Over under on grades popping by EOD Friday?

Easy over. It has not even gone thru Quality Checks yet.....plus they have to fix errors.

[lowpopper]

Over under on grades popping by EOD Friday?

It’s 10pm Friday.....

Over.

[Republicaninmass]

Looks like they are still grading, maybe this week?

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[T_Hamilton]

God, i hope so. I have zero patience.

[bobbyw8469]

God, i hope so. I have zero patience.

Dealing with PSA you best have the patience of Job. Imagine if you submitted to Beckett?? They have to wait over a year.

[bobbyw8469]

PSA closed until March 30th.

https://www.psacard.com/articles/articleview/10082/update-psa-covid-19-policy-statement/

[Republicaninmass]

As if they werent already behind

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[BruceinGa]

Graders should take a large box of cards home and grade them there! :D
I can hear it now, "Where did I put that box of cards?"!

[lowpopper]

PSA just sent an email saying all operations in Orange County, California have ceased.

Looks like we are stuck on assembly for a while.:(


:cool::cool::cool:

[tjb1952tjb]

"Good things come to those who wait...…..and wait...…...and wait...………"

[Republicaninmass]

And wait....

This just in



Appears a skeleton crew is still working at PSA

[BabyRuth]

Confirmed - skeleton crew at work

[bnorth]

Confirmed - skeleton crew at work

LOL, the crew not having eyes explains so much with my last submission.:D

[bobbyw8469]

LOL, the crew not having eyes explains so much with my last submission.:D

LOL....How can a skeleton crew be at PSA when they have strict stay at home orders?? I don't like our order being "stuck" as much as you guys. But it is what it is. Hopefully normalcy will return soon. I haven't seen my girlfriend in almost a month now.

[Republicaninmass]

they've been grading and processing orders

I've had 2 head to q2 in the past week

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[bobbyw8469]

they've been grading and processing orders

I've had 2 head to q2 in the past week

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Well.....I'm guessing the ones that actually put the cards in slabs and seal them aren't showing up....cause we have been at "aseembly" for quite some time.

[Snapolit1]

Hey, at least when this saga plays out 7-8 months from now your cards will be safely entombed in slabs of plastic.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

And look on the bright side. Any modern cards you sent to PSA in this "submission" will be coming back as vintage! :)

[teza11]

Looks like PSA is (sorta) back in business.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

April 15, 2020

Dear PSA Customers,

First of all, I hope this message finds you and your family healthy and safe during this unprecedented time. The COVID-19 pandemic has presented challenges for all of us as we continue to try and slow the spread.

Second, as it pertains to business, I want you to know that PSA appreciates your continued support. You each represent a vital part of the hobby and we thank you for your loyalty and patronage. As we previously reported, the company ceased authentication and grading operations in our California and New Jersey offices on March 20, 2020.

Following today’s corporate announcement, PSA is slowly reopening its California operation, bringing back a limited crew of employees, effective immediately. That said, safety is our top priority. We have implemented a number of health and safety measures, including changing the configuration of our workstations and limiting the number of employees that may be onsite at any time in order to maintain social distancing. We are also regularly sanitizing our offices and adopting other health and safety protocols.

During this time, while you may see some order movement, please be patient as we are still not back to full capacity and therefore service levels remain limited. Please note that we are able to accept orders at Economy service and higher, but are not able to currently accept Bulk orders. PSA autograph and memorabilia authentication services are accepting orders in California only. PSA’s New Jersey office remains closed.

We know things are slow for everybody right now, but we will survive this pandemic and hopefully be back to full capacity soon. This is a small step in the right direction towards that goal.

Be safe,

Steve Sloan
President

[Republicaninmass]

Looks like the Incredible Bulk cards from oct might be moving! Hoping for grades soooooon

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[Farm_kid]

Good luck everyone! I am new around here and have about 60 T206 that I am interested in grading (nothing amazing, except that they are T206s!). Maybe I can jump in on one of these in the future.

[bobbyw8469]

Good luck everyone! I am new around here and have about 60 T206 that I am interested in grading (nothing amazing, except that they are T206s!). Maybe I can jump in on one of these in the future.

That's a lot of T206's...Bear in mind the dollar limit is $100 and under.

[Republicaninmass]

Still waiting! Better be the mother of all pops!

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[bobbyw8469]

For what it's worth, I made a phone call yesterday. Not sure how much good it will do. Was told what I already knew. They are operating on a skeleton crew. They will be working on the oldest orders first, yadda yadda. The card is still on assembly with TWO errors reported on labels. One involves a Non-Sports card (vintage autos) that has the wrong car in the label and the other is some kind of old card that was labeled the wrong back. Sorry, so much time has passed I forgot the exact ordeal, but that is it in a nutshell. I'm not sure they are ready to move forward even without the two errors.

[Republicaninmass]

Thanks Bobby! We know it ain't you

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[cubman1941]

Appreciate the update.

[bengineno9]

Thanks Bobby


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[riggs336]

I just got an email that a PSA order I mailed on 12/29/19 has shipped.
All things considered I suppose 4+ months isn't too bad.

[Mike D.]

I keep forgetting about the submission, then get reminded when someone updates this thread. I'm betting by the time the pop comes, it'll feel like getting free graded cards!

[bobbyw8469]

I keep forgetting about the submission, then get reminded when someone updates this thread. I'm betting by the time the pop comes, it'll feel like getting free graded cards!

If you subbed Michael Jordan cards, you might have to pay more due to the increased value...lol

[Republicaninmass]

Lots of movement over on the BO forum. bulk from december popping

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[Republicaninmass]

:cool:Over / Under is January 29th for the grades to post.


I'll take the over John! I doubt ANYONE thought it would take this long. Here's to good poppage

[teza11]

So I'll ask the obvious question. Why are December bulk submissions popping before our early October one? I understand that we have a couple of errors in the group, but is that really holding up completion by 2 months?

Jeff

[steve B]

If you subbed Michael Jordan cards, you might have to pay more due to the increased value...lol

At the current rate, they should go with the value when it arrived there.

[bobbyw8469]

So I'll ask the obvious question. Why are December bulk submissions popping before our early October one? I understand that we have a couple of errors in the group, but is that really holding up completion by 2 months?

Jeff

If I had to guess, the research guys are non essential. As long as there aren't any issues, it's like an assembly linem. Equate it to a football game. I threw the red flag so the order is under review. Now they have to go in and see who got it right - me, or the graders. That is me guessing what has transpired.

[tonyo]

Maybe we'll get the december sub back before the october sub..

[bobbyw8469]

Both errors have been resolved. The cards are in assembly still, but seeing the labels corrected to what they should be is promising.

Apparently, the submitters are responsible for catching their own errors. I caught two, but out of 500 cards, many of which I am unfamiliar with, I apologize if I missed some.

[Sean]

Both errors have been resolved. The cards are in assembly still, but seeing the labels corrected to what they should be is promising.

Apparently, the submitters are responsible for catching their own errors. I caught two, but out of 500 cards, many of which I am unfamiliar with, I apologize if I missed some.

But you caught the one on my card, so thank you.

[wondo]

I have no clue what I submitted!:eek:

Found my list


1. 1910s Wall, Nichols Company – Duke Kahanamoku Hawaiian Souvenir Playing Card
2. T207 Terrance Turner
3. T207 George Mogridge
4. 1909 Ogden’s #55 Jack Johnson


Phew!

[bobbyw8469]

I have no clue what I submitted!:eek:

Found my list


1. 1910s Wall, Nichols Company – Duke Kahanamoku Hawaiian Souvenir Playing Card
2. T207 Terrance Turner
3. T207 George Mogridge
4. 1909 Ogden’s #55 Jack Johnson


Phew!


There are two outstanding subs. Was this on the Oct sub or the December sub?

[bobbyw8469]

Since we have turned a pretty major corner, let me pose THIS question. As usual, I will post the grades here, with the cert numbers omitted (Thanks to some joker deciding to add cards on the group sub to a phantom registry). If there is ANYONE who is not cool with the grades being posted here, SPEAK NOW or FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!!!

[cubman1941]

Since we have turned a pretty major corner, let me pose THIS question. As usual, I will post the grades here, with the cert numbers omitted (Thanks to some joker deciding to add cards on the group sub to a phantom registry). If there is ANYONE who is not cool with the grades being posted here, SPEAK NOW or FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!!!

No problem for me. Thanks.

[lowpopper]

Since we have turned a pretty major corner, let me pose THIS question. As usual, I will post the grades here, with the cert numbers omitted (Thanks to some joker deciding to add cards on the group sub to a phantom registry). If there is ANYONE who is not cool with the grades being posted here, SPEAK NOW or FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!!!

Just post that ishh

[wondo]

There are two outstanding subs. Was this on the Oct sub or the December sub?

October

[wondo]

I dreamt that the October sub popped!

Has any one been getting grading submissions back from PSA? SGC? If so, what level and how long? Thanks!

[Republicaninmass]

I'm hearing they are 2 weeks behind in shipping alone. If that gets your Hopes up

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[bobbyw8469]

I'm hearing they are 2 weeks behind in shipping alone. If that gets your Hopes up

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I thought we would see some movement since the errors were corrected. That's what I get for thinking. I would HATE to see their backlog....I am imagining a room with cards stacked to the roofs....

[toledo_mudhen]

I dreamt that the October sub popped!

Has any one been getting grading submissions back from PSA? SGC? If so, what level and how long? Thanks!

Did You Know?

Dreamt is the only word in the English language that ends in "MT"

[bobbyw8469]

Did You Know?

Dreamt is the only word in the English language that ends in "MT"

Did you know Rhythm is the only word without any vowels?? I don't know if that is true or not....sounds good.

[nsaddict]

Ditto.....at this rate, I am predicting early June.


Wow, Bobby (post #143 Feb 17th)

The second coming of Carnac the magnificent

[bobbyw8469]

Wow, Bobby (post #143 Feb 17th)

The second coming of Carnac the magnificent


LOL....It was pretty easy to tell.....actually....the virus helped quite a bit, which I didn't see forthcoming.

[Mike D.]

I thought we would see some movement since the errors were corrected. That's what I get for thinking. I would HATE to see their backlog....I am imagining a room with cards stacked to the roofs....


Yeah, it's pretty bad, but I'm told they have "top men" working on it...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/d6/11/b8d611b2a15282c07f5ddcf4ae7fc843.jpg

[wondo]

Excellent reference!!!

[pclpads]

Next submission, instead of shipping to PSA, maybe send the wad to the monkey house at your local zoo. They might even be faster processing and returning the sub and . . . big and . . . their collective grading couldn't be any worse. Just toss in a few bananas with the cards to speed up the process. :D

[bobbyw8469]

I may do a few, when do you need cards by? and where do I send to?

Post #37

[teza11]

Shhh...our card grades are dropping with each negative post.

I think PSA is the bestest in the whole world! ;)

Jeff

[bobbyw8469]

Shhh...our card grades are dropping with each negative post.

I think PSA is the bestest in the whole world! ;)

Jeff

You haven't heard anything negative from me. But then again, I have long learned with PSA you best have the patience of Job.

[bobbyw8469]

Update.

[Republicaninmass]

Thank you sir!

[wondo]

Woot!

[1880nonsports]

what are you actually saying about the October sub.?

[bobbyw8469]

what are you actually saying about the October sub.?

What do you mean??? Did you read the header?

[bobbyw8469]

That was fast...on to #2.

[swarmee]

what are you actually saying about the October sub.?
Henry, he's putting the update in the title of the thread. So it's progressing through the steps and is almost ready to show the grades.

[robw1959]

So if I'm reading this correctly, a submission from last October is still in process at PSA? I sincerely hope that isn't true.

[robw1959]

Has any one been getting grading submissions back from PSA? SGC? If so, what level and how long? Thanks!

I submitted a 20-day order to SGC that they dated as received for processing on April 1st, and I just got an email notice that the submission has been shipped back to me today. So that would put their 20-day order at close to 40 days.

[bobbyw8469]

So if I'm reading this correctly, a submission from last October is still in process at PSA? I sincerely hope that isn't true.

It most definitely is true. It was almost a 500 card order, with two errors, going through a pandemic.

[1880nonsports]

I didn't know what QA phase whatever meant in terms of it's progress. I also didn't know if "woot" meant "woof" or something else. I'm a dinosaur....

[bobbyw8469]

I didn't know what QA phase whatever meant in terms of it's progress. I also didn't know if "woot" meant "woof" or something else. I'm a dinosaur....

LOL!!!! It means we are really really close now.

[wondo]

I didn't know what QA phase whatever meant in terms of it's progress. I also didn't know if "woot" meant "woof" or something else. I'm a dinosaur....

Woot! Is a synonym for Hurray!

[swarmee]

I didn't know what QA phase whatever meant in terms of it's progress. I also didn't know if "woot" meant "woof" or something else. I'm a dinosaur....
QA: Quality Assurance. People now refer to the PSA phases as the Domino's Pizza Tracker.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200526/a02616dd8737248ecf0622a0c51128c2.jpg

"Woot" is like "Yee-Hah!" to the young kids.

[JollyElm]

QA = Quite A Long Time

[T_Hamilton]

How long does QA Check 2 usually take?

[bobbyw8469]

How long does QA Check 2 usually take?

Who knows.

[perezfan]

I hope they are paying you guys interest on your money, considering the obscene wait time.

[Republicaninmass]

I hope they are paying you guys interest on your money, considering the obscene wait time.


They actually dont charge your CC until the cards are completed.



Just to poke another hole in your anti-psa sentiment bubble

[perezfan]

They actually dont charge your CC until the cards are completed.



Just to poke another hole in your anti-psa sentiment bubble

That's good of them. I do like their Autograph and Photo Authentication, FWIW

[bobbyw8469]

Mark...are you on this sub?

[bobbyw8469]

*** SPOILER ALERT!!! If you don't want to know the grades, DO NOT click on the links!!! ***

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0XJvsVT6AhNylJR8XOx32TlZKjbbP4wEkHLraAheW4/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tf3JEgMSzEjLh2SkJc-scLPuDNH7P0kwzg5YAsL-RwY/edit?usp=sharing

The first link is cards 1-400. The second link is cards 401-484. Apparently the limit is 400.....lol

[wondo]

There's an amazing amount of variety in that sub - thanks for tackling this, Bobby!

[bobbyw8469]

There's an amazing amount of variety in that sub - thanks for tackling this, Bobby!

Different strokes for different folks...I'm a little pissed....some no grades that should have been graded. Although I did get a PSA 10 on my Billy Ripken F**k Face bat.

[T_Hamilton]

Thanks for running Bobby.. much appreciated.

Very interesting results on my end

a Trout 2012 Heritage that had a corner nick got a PSA 10, while my 1989 Ken Griffey Jr Upper Deck, which i thought was the best of the bunch got a PSA 5. And my 1982 Topps Cal Ripken which I pack pulled got a N6: Minimum Size Requirement.

[bobbyw8469]

Thanks for running Bobby.. much appreciated.

Very interesting results on my end

a Trout 2012 Heritage that had a corner nick got a PSA 10, while my 1989 Ken Griffey Jr Upper Deck, which i thought was the best of the bunch got a PSA 5. And my 1982 Topps Cal Ripken which I pack pulled got a N6: Minimum Size Requirement.

I got some N6's as well that shouldn't have....grrrrrrrr.

[tonyo]

*** SPOILER ALERT!!! If you don't want to know the grades, DO NOT click on the links!!! ***

The first link is cards 1-400. The second link is cards 401-484. Apparently the limit is 400.....lol

Great news!

question for ya Bobby: is each person's submission listed consecutively? That appears to be the case. The cards I submitted are listed consecutively, but two of my cards have more than one copy on the list. Just wanna make sure I'm seeing the grades my cards received, not someone else's cards.

Thanks again for doing this :)

Tony

[bobbyw8469]

Great news!

question for ya Bobby: is each person's submission listed consecutively? That appears to be the case. The cards I submitted are listed consecutively, but two of my cards have more than one copy on the list. Just wanna make sure I'm seeing the grades my cards received, not someone else's cards.

Thanks again for doing this :)

Tony

Everything should be grouped together. Key word being SHOULD.

[bobbyw8469]

Great news!

question for ya Bobby: is each person's submission listed consecutively? That appears to be the case. The cards I submitted are listed consecutively, but two of my cards have more than one copy on the list. Just wanna make sure I'm seeing the grades my cards received, not someone else's cards.

Thanks again for doing this :)

Tony

If you submitted the same cards as someone else, your cards are the ones grouped together. I didn't take one of your cards and put it at random further on down the list.

[Scott L.]

Thanks for organizing this Bobby. I/you cracked 3 GAI first graded 52 Bowman's for me and they all got a number. I don't remember what GAI had them at but I'm pretty sure I only dropped a grade on one of them.

[JollyElm]

Holy mother of crud!!!! Half of my cards got N6'ed. How in heck is that possible??? I measured each one against a modern card and 90% of them have been in my binders since the 90's and not in someone's chop shop. This is unreal. Do I get some sort of vouchers for those non-graded cards? Crap!!!!!!!!!!!

[Huck]

*** SPOILER ALERT!!! If you don't want to know the grades, DO NOT click on the links!!! ***

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0XJvsVT6AhNylJR8XOx32TlZKjbbP4wEkHLraAheW4/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tf3JEgMSzEjLh2SkJc-scLPuDNH7P0kwzg5YAsL-RwY/edit?usp=sharing

The first link is cards 1-400. The second link is cards 401-484. Apparently the limit is 400.....lol

I was not going to look but curiosity got the best of me. The cards submitted were fairly graded. One or two surprises in my favor. One card with evidence of trimming. Makes me feel guilty of wrongdoing. I purchased that card at a Tuff-Stuff show in Richmond, Virginia back in the 90's. Disheartening. I want to believe that the dealer was unaware that the card had been trimmed. Oh well.

Thank you Bobby.

[bobbyw8469]

I have some bad news. I have lost a member's card. This is a first for me. I feel like total shit. I don't think I can do these subs anymore.

[BruceinGa]

Bobby, I hope you will find it.
I forgot to request no qualifiers and received one OC. I used my "Grademaster Card Centering Tool" and with it the card appeared to not warrant an OC. Oh well.
I received one N8, Miscut. The front looks good but I'm guessing the reverse is miscut. I didn't scan the reverse.
I also received one N6. :eek:
There are a few disappointments but I'm learning. :rolleyes:
Thanks Bobby for your time and effort.

[bobbyw8469]

Bobby, I hope you will find it.
I forgot to request no qualifiers and received one OC. I used my "Grademaster Card Centering Tool" and with it the card appeared to not warrant an OC. Oh well.
I received one N8, Miscut. The front looks good but I'm guessing the reverse is miscut. I didn't scan the reverse.
I also received one N6. :eek:
There are a few disappointments but I'm learning. :rolleyes:
Thanks Bobby for your time and effort.

It's gone...I think I subbed it to PSA and forgot to enter it on the form....of course they are saying they never got it.

[T_Hamilton]

What was the value of the lost card? When I pay you to ship my cards to me, I am more than happy to include an extra $20 to compensate the person for the lost card... accidents happen and you shouldn't be help responsible... you are going out on a limb and doing us all a huge favor with these group subs, while also taking on all the risk.

Maybe if more people add an extra $20 to their shipping cost you can make the person's card you lost whole while also not having to come out of pocket?

Really appreciate you running these... i dont have the time, patience or knowledge to do own subs.

Taylor