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Leon
08-08-2019, 02:26 PM
Will Pre War cards with larger borders command a premium in the future? Besides lower grade cards with nice aesthetics will the thing to look for be cards, known to be candidates for trimming, with larger borders? And will there be a premium in the future (or is there one now)?
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samosa4u
08-08-2019, 02:40 PM
With the number of trimmed cards out there, I'm surprised there are even big-bordered cards left!

brianp-beme
08-08-2019, 03:03 PM
I have big bordered T206 cards that were trimmed poorly in the distant past (imagine how large they once were!). So I guess these cards need to be identified as big bordered cards with no trimming.

I would think that big borders might become a big thing for those in the know.

Brian

DeanH3
08-08-2019, 03:04 PM
I have always chased large borders. I could see a premium attached in the future like centering has received.

oldjudge
08-08-2019, 03:39 PM
Here’s a chubby guy. Obviously, he was eating some of the Standard Biscuits:

Throttlesteer
08-08-2019, 04:43 PM
My recent junk-in-the-trunk pickup

https://i.imgur.com/bUQ4iY9.jpg

HawkFan70
08-08-2019, 08:59 PM
Another one...

RCMcKenzie
08-08-2019, 09:42 PM
Those are great cards, y'all. Holy cow on the Cobb! Here's a tall McGraw...

DeanH3
08-09-2019, 12:19 AM
I can also see pedigreed cards from the early pioneers gaining steam.

mechanicalman
08-09-2019, 12:48 AM
I have always chased large borders. I could see a premium attached in the future like centering has received.

http://net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=10125http://net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=10123

http://net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=10126http://net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=21947

Dean: where’s that beautiful big bordered Speaker?

DeanH3
08-09-2019, 01:57 AM
Here he is.

ejharrington
08-09-2019, 08:33 AM
Here he is.
That's a great card. I have a question: are there wide discrepancies in the sizing for this set? Is that card larger than the standard 1-7/16 x 2-5/8 size for that set?

3-2-count
08-09-2019, 08:47 AM
Nice cards everyone. Big borders are the bomb!

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/psa5wajoportfront.jpg

HRBAKER
08-09-2019, 08:55 AM
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/E92Cobby_zpshw9brnrj.jpg

jthorst75
08-09-2019, 03:15 PM
Not mine anymore unfortunately.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=565&pictureid=13557

Billy5858
08-09-2019, 10:16 PM
Hopefully not trimmed
But still mine

jthorst75
08-09-2019, 11:12 PM
I forgot about this guy. Also no longer mine...
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=565&pictureid=19791

asoriano
08-10-2019, 09:14 AM
http://i68.tinypic.com/i4i8tl.jpg

Leon
08-11-2019, 05:47 PM
These borders seem a little bigger than normal. And the centering is nice....best fair grade card I have had in awhile..

http://luckeycards.com/t206cobb.jpg

HawkFan70
08-11-2019, 05:57 PM
Wow - nice looking card, Leon!

kdixon
08-11-2019, 07:04 PM
Rucker.

steve B
08-11-2019, 07:41 PM
That's a great card. I have a question: are there wide discrepancies in the sizing for this set? Is that card larger than the standard 1-7/16 x 2-5/8 size for that set?

Yes, the sizes are all over the place.
And I believe yes, that card is larger than standard.

Santo10Fan
08-12-2019, 06:34 PM
PAWB Evers

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RbHn5DoGRRGu_bXLbkKSpkuei35VLopNcFdTRPYu3dum2-0BEl-V_5YcOX_nVDarLkMPfFUQCqvZycZiKE8uxK-J_kVL2-c7yCRv6LPn9t8t6v_T5wBYsx3C0s5aN7TOkSzTexRzh75J1o5Y wpGvQMY9YdFODz6ucZjCJ5y0V5HyxQtox3_57cyS_JLS2oH9Bh 9kkFMT0Eekj25YXKqH8C2xV4v8cV7z2OLUfTIc2ZoTcSw6CxVV O5uXGJ0osjJke-DpjkislDuHxjBYd2fZKBHjRjMFkasS2hDRldN1zmALDT-5dHR0tNsxqd7hgQVjaaBnSx1QGur46e6sOAb4wXTDgTJOtMSkE NPgV9pxs7q0RAnzSalEeQFxsv8HjUoKrNVFSsdmH5P5NKBD7G_ Aah84AwczbEYgQtZDCANHR5yMCcpKIy9K7KLkz98nhL2TEMgnX AyD3gIwLIUo2Aepxb_SI5Be4YecPoILahLJY9ECH2o0mxLL-Tlncgc0ibV64oEm0XuxR1YNJKJ1MqTyhtgkLtcFfnpu_dBIOwc drEBmrM7op_egErjIcGQy-wKmKUanoy9wEMKYaYTYuMNr7-RNQWUKQE2-d1e626wh-p5GddBCkTk6zIrZ0ETG32laxxAEvlAYLyrrtI5DLYqknIb89dA YnU0=w693-h923-no

brianp-beme
08-12-2019, 07:01 PM
I hope even poorly cut ones like this E220 card (and E220's in general) will increase a hundredfold in value, and then perhaps I will become a multi-kamillionaire.

Brian

ejharrington
08-12-2019, 09:23 PM
Yes, the sizes are all over the place.
And I believe yes, that card is larger than standard.
That’s interesting. I have seen PSA reject cards for being too large. For example, when a card has been in a screw down.

Matt1150
08-13-2019, 08:29 PM
I like this one

ullmandds
08-13-2019, 08:41 PM
I think cards with oversized borders will continue to be desirable especially from a doctors standpoint to the point that now and even more so in the future people will think cards have oversized borders when they’re really the way they were supposed to be .

MVSNYC
08-13-2019, 10:55 PM
There's been a lot of short high grade cards talked about recently...so I think these, with larger than average borders, are refreshing to see.

Also...the Proof is an honorable mention. :)

oldjudge
08-14-2019, 02:37 AM
These borders seem a little bigger than normal. And the centering is nice....best fair grade card I have had in awhile..

http://luckeycards.com/t206cobb.jpg

Leon-Why did the card get such a low grade? Is it the scratch like stuff in the red background? I can’t see much wrong with the card from the scan.

Jobu
08-14-2019, 09:49 AM
Fred

RCMcKenzie
08-17-2019, 02:58 PM
LaPorte jumbo...

Buythatcard
08-17-2019, 03:34 PM
This one can use a little trim off the top.

Just realized that I should have posted a pre war card. Well, this was before the Vietnam War.

gonzo
08-17-2019, 05:40 PM
Here are a few T205s with a little extra in the border department.

tjb1952tjb
08-23-2019, 04:31 AM
Capless Al Bridwell.....with fat borders (rosy cheeks too).:)

brianp-beme
08-25-2019, 01:14 PM
Thought I would jump on the oversized T206 dogpile.

Leon
08-27-2019, 12:09 PM
More big borders with good provenance...

http://luckeycards.com/pe100comparison.jpg
http://luckeycards.com/pe94crawfordorange.jpg

Leon
08-30-2019, 07:33 PM
In answer to a question above, the red Cobby in a 1.5 older has a few spider wrinkles. They can barely be seen on the front and not on the back.

Here is another card with large borders.

http://luckeycards.com/pt216ve.jpg

sniffy5
09-23-2019, 11:40 AM
Nice fat borders on this Dimag with an older label...

Jobu
09-23-2019, 12:40 PM
Wow, I love that Crawford!!!

More big borders with good provenance...

http://luckeycards.com/pe94crawfordorange.jpg

pete zouras
09-23-2019, 04:40 PM
Big border

shammus
09-23-2019, 07:42 PM
Big-bordered cards are a staple in my collection and I've been trying to hunt those down for years! Here's a few favorites, notice if you look closely at the handcut Cobb and O'Halloran, you can see different colors on the edges that hint at what the card was actually cut off of originally. Good stuff!



366903

366904

366905

366906

366907

Eric72
09-23-2019, 10:28 PM
These borders used to look "normal" to me.

After a few years of minimal hobby activity, I recently looked through my T206 cards. I was amazed at how large the borders appear to me now.

Leon
09-26-2019, 10:34 PM
My new, small niche....

http://luckeycards.com/t206jennings.jpg

Bill77
09-27-2019, 01:40 PM
A full size Fred Snodgrass American Beauty.

paleocards
09-27-2019, 02:15 PM
367250

brianp-beme
09-27-2019, 03:09 PM
A full size American Beauty T206

Brian

Leon
09-28-2019, 10:11 PM
Great looking cards so far
.....staying with the T206 HOF'ers with larger borders.

DeanH3
09-28-2019, 10:27 PM
Love the large border T206's. Here's an M116 with nice full borders.

soxinseven
09-29-2019, 08:43 AM
One of my favorite E94s with big borders.

tedzan
09-30-2019, 03:31 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T210FisherFB.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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brianp-beme
09-30-2019, 08:18 PM
Another E220 National Caramel. The E220 set almost uniformly has non-uniform borders, so much so that I don't think it is possible to definitively state a 'normal' size for the set. The Schmandt is obviously crazily large, while in comparison the Kopf is probably(?) wider than normal.

Brian

Leon
10-04-2019, 05:05 PM
Love the large border T206's. Here's an M116 with nice full borders.


M116s are notorious for smaller borders. Nice Cobby;

A lot of caramel cards came with bigger borders, at least originally. :eek:

http://luckeycards.com/e92mcgraw.jpg