Roger Clemens help pls

[Case12]

Hi all. Is this a good Roger Clemens? I like the CY7 inscription. Thanks for your help. Casey

[Case12]

Or this one too?

[vintagetoppsguy]

They both look good to me.

[Fuddjcal]

The China Grove ball is most certainly a forgery, and the other ball is highly suspect, IMHO

[vintagetoppsguy]

Clemens' signature has changed drastically over the years. Here is the OPs China ball compared to a certified ball. Not much difference. For me, I not only look at the signature, but the inscription as well. The inscriptions are pretty much a match too. Besides, if one were going to forge a Clemens ball, why would they use a China ball?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Another Clemens ball with a very similar signature to the China ball

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roger-Clemens-Signed-Official-Major-League-Baseball-The-Rocket-Red-Sox-Becket-2-/163522433867?hash=item2612b2534b%3Ag%3AhDcAAOSwDKt Y1oh4&nma=true&si=LYW9Rw%252Fj0uixr5a%252BqvsZ%252BbUHVOo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[bnorth]

Clemens' signature has changed drastically over the years. Here is the OPs China ball compared to a certified ball. Not much difference. For me, I not only look at the signature, but the inscription as well. The inscriptions are pretty much a match too. Besides, if one were going to forge a Clemens ball, why would they use a China ball?

I have no opinion on if it is legit or not. Those 2 autos look nothing alike to me.

[Fuddjcal]

I have no opinion on if it is legit or not. Those 2 autos look nothing alike to me.

I agree it's a nice smoke screen and very cheap, as compared to faking a real ball, THAT's why the China Ball woe OO O.
I stand by my original assessment

Talking bout the China Ball, O o o, It a fake ,whoh O china ball.

[commishbob]

FWIW.... I got these IP about four years ago. I have some others I got a few years prior but I’ll need to dig up the pics

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[Fuddjcal]

FWIW.... I got these IP about four years ago. I have some others I got a few years prior but I’ll need to dig up the pics

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Very nice! I guess you left the China Balls at home? Imagine that.

[w7imel]

I agree it's a nice smoke screen and very cheap, as compared to faking a real ball, THAT's why the China Ball woe OO O.
I stand by my original assessment

Talking bout the China Ball, O o o, It a fake ,whoh O china ball.

Rogers signature has changed alot over the years from what I seen. The earlier the example the more readable it was. I like them both!

[earlywynnfan]

Good God! It doesn't matter if the China ball is legit or not, it's already starting to fade. In 2 years the sig will be completely gone.

And yes, forgers love the crappy cheap balls.

[Case12]

Never knew I would have so much grief asking about a Roger Clemens auto. I guess I will just have to move on - maybe this Authentic Clemens signed Astro's rally monkey would be better. Ha, ha

[bnorth]

Never knew I would have so much grief asking about a Roger Clemens auto. I guess I will just have to move on - maybe this Authentic Clemens signed Astro's rally monkey would be better. Ha, ha

That is a very cool autographed item.:)

Here is the front/back of a custom Clemens card. The front has a real sweet spot auto cut from a ball. The back is a exact replica of a real Clemens Auto. This are my favorite style of his autograph.

[Case12]

Authentic? This may be sorta between his styles while with the Red Sox? Not a China ball :-)

[bnorth]

If it helps the sweet spot auto in the custom card dates from 89-91 by the other 3 autos on the ball. I got this t-shirt from Rogers foundation 2 years ago.

[Case12]

Just bought this one at good price. Hope it is good? If not, I didn't loose much. Thoughts?
It appears to be an earlier signature. The guy has 7CY.....I had to have at least one of the "Rocket's" signed ball.

[bnorth]

Just bought this one at good price. Hope it is good? If not, I didn't loose much. Thoughts?
It appears to be an earlier signature. The guy has 7CY.....I had to have at least one of the "Rocket's" signed ball.

Looks like the version I have in the custom card.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Here's an early Clemens auto...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROGER-CLEMENS-SIGNED-ROOKIE-BOSTON-RED-SOX-1984-PAYROLL-CHECK-PSA-DNA/113677733739?hash=item1a77b88f6b:g:zK8AAOSwcaZcgbr p

[Case12]

Wow. What a change.