Clemente authentication help

[rmarks]

I have a friend who owns the attached signed Clemente 1964 Giant card. The story is that his friend got it in person in 1970 at a game in Cinci. I told him I would solicit help from the foremost experts in the industry to get qualified opinions as to its authenticity. Any help is greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
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[rmarks]

Please let me know your thoughts about the authenticity of this Clemente autograph. Thanks, as always.

[theshleps]

looks off

[71buc]

I am certainly no expert. I don't generally offer opinions about such things. However, the things that give me pause are the R in Roberto and the LE look different from what I have seen from other examples from that time period. The signature also looks a bit deliberate in my opinion. The spacing between the first and last name seems to be much wider than others I have seen. I think that card in particular is highly sought after by people completing signed versions of that set. That coincidence may or may not be a red flag? For what its worth here is my 1972 Clemente for comparison. It came with fairly solid provenance. I do see some similarity. However my concerns would be enough to dissuade me from buying it. I hope this helps as you await more educated opinions.

[rmarks]

Thank you both for your responses. I was concerned about the "R" and the flow of the first name, especially, as well.

Any other opinions are welcome, as I enjoy getting insights of others for educational reasons.

Thanks again.

[Kco]

I’ve got a couple of Clemente’s, and this one feels off unfortunately, everything looks too neat and deliberate

[Terrier8HOF]

Ive seen this style before, I believe it is secretarial (TTM)

[rmarks]

Nice insight. Thanks!

[JollyElm]

No opinion on the specific signature, but the fact the ole 'friend of a friend' got it in person throws up a big red flag...unless you could talk to that friend of a friend and see if he seems legit.

[rmarks]

Good advice.