View Full Version : Ty cobb real or not
khkco4bls
12-28-2018, 08:02 PM
Heeeellllppppp. Please. On a reach joe cronin ball. Thanks
khkco4bls
12-28-2018, 08:38 PM
Anyone chime in?
Duluth Eskimo
12-28-2018, 10:11 PM
My immediate thought is that it appears fabricated
Duluth Eskimo
12-28-2018, 10:12 PM
The Cobb looks stretched out.
w7imel
12-28-2018, 10:26 PM
Heeeellllppppp. Please. On a reach joe cronin ball. Thanks
Need a better picture for sure if possible:)
yanks12025
12-29-2018, 04:24 AM
It's one of those replica baseballs.
Facsimile ball, would be a 5 figure ball with ease if it was real
keithsky
12-29-2018, 08:14 AM
I'm always leery when a ball signed by the old timers like Cobb, Ruth and so on from that era put inscriptions on there like dates or stats of some sort. Don't think they did that back then like maybe now. It's like the crap from CC with all the balls they auction off most have stats or dates of some sort.
perezfan
12-29-2018, 01:38 PM
Cobb would frequently sign the ball along with that day's date. But other than that, I agree... these notations were not "a thing" back then.
henson1855
01-02-2019, 09:08 PM
The original sold at Heritage, so it was a thing at least once.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1950-s-ty-cobb-single-signed-career-retrospective-baseball/a/7145-80023.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
SetBuilder
01-02-2019, 09:18 PM
I'm always leery when a ball signed by the old timers like Cobb, Ruth and so on from that era put inscriptions on there like dates or stats of some sort. Don't think they did that back then like maybe now. It's like the crap from CC with all the balls they auction off most have stats or dates of some sort.
Cobb would frequently sign the ball along with that day's date. But other than that, I agree... these notations were not "a thing" back then.
Those aren't stats. It's the teams he played for along with the years. It wasn't unheard of for players to do this, but not all that common either. I've seen other examples from players like Walter Johnson and Joe Kelley, to name a few...
Bigdaddy
01-02-2019, 10:26 PM
Not sure if you were implying it or not, but those two balls are not the same. Note the 'Finnis'?? at the bottom of the Heritage ball; not present on the OPs picture.
The original sold at Heritage, so it was a thing at least once.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1950-s-ty-cobb-single-signed-career-retrospective-baseball/a/7145-80023.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
Mr. Zipper
01-03-2019, 01:00 PM
Not sure if you were implying it or not, but those two balls are not the same. Note the 'Finnis'?? at the bottom of the Heritage ball; not present on the OPs picture.
Other than that, the signature and inscriptions appear as if they may be identical. (The OP pic is a bit too small to be certain.)
I suspect the OP ball may be a reproduction created using the high res image from Heritage.
Bigdaddy
01-03-2019, 01:20 PM
I suspect the OP ball may be a reproduction created using the high res image from Heritage.
+1
Huysmans
01-03-2019, 01:36 PM
Those aren't stats. It's the teams he played for along with the years. It wasn't unheard of for players to do this, but not all that common either. I've seen other examples from players like Walter Johnson and Joe Kelley, to name a few...
Exactly.
Listing teams and years of tenure when signing wasn't unheard of, even then. I can remember seeing examples that have sold from 19th century players like Fred Goldsmith and Jack Glasscock.
Steve D
01-03-2019, 02:12 PM
They're definitely different balls.
Look at the number of stitches on the ball. Counting the stitch at the top of the "T", around to the left, and to the stitch at the bottom of the "A" in "Athletics", there are 14 stitches on the Heritage ball, while there are 17 stitches on the ball in this thread's original post.
Also, the Heritage ball is a Harridge, whlle the OP ball is a Cronin.
Steve