Karma? Maybe ; Maybe Not

[clydepepper]

The Houston Astros are 5-6 since trading for Robert Osuna when they infamously stated that their zero-tolerance of domestic violence did not apply because Ozuna was not part of their organization at the time of the alleged offense.

They are 2-6 since Ozuna was reinstated to active status.

Now, I realize that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and that the Astros' slide had already begun (18-19 in last 37 games), but there is just a chance that LADY luck also has a zero tolerance.

Mountains out of molehills, maybe - maybe not.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

what the hell did the Dodgers do to deserve Kenley Jansen's irregular heart beat and 4 straight ninth inning losses???

[KMayUSA6060]

Yes. 1000x yes. Olney nailed it on the head in one of his rants...

The Astros can no longer claim zero tolerance when it comes to DV.

[JustinD]

Not defending the person or the situation but just posing a question.

He has already been suspended, is the gripe that he was traded for or do people expect Houston to do some sort of additional punishment? Manfred has basically already tied MLBs hands by punishment before he is tried. As it sits, they will be unable to do anything no matter the result of a trial by taking that route other than a release.

[clydepepper]

Not defending the person or the situation but just posing a question.

He has already been suspended, is the gripe that he was traded for or do people expect Houston to do some sort of additional punishment? Manfred has basically already tied MLBs hands by punishment before he is tried. As it sits, they will be unable to do anything no matter the result of a trial by taking that route other than a release.


So, he shouldn't have been suspended until after the trial? Maybe Toronto knew more than Houston did. Either way, Manfred was in a no-win position...which, I believe, comes with the job.

[Stampsfan]

This topic got a lot of play up here in Canada. The fact that Osuna got (and accepted) a suspension of 75 games before the trial had even started may indicate the seriousness of the incident.

There is an unsubstantiated story that one of the investigating cops made an off the record statement that the victim was in really bad shape, and one of the worst he had ever witnessed.

There was not a chance he would play for the Jays again. Roger's (who owns the Jays) are a publicly traded company, and it was rumored that Senior Management dictated he be gone. This was obviously not a baseball move, but a PR move.

My understanding is the Astros made public a zero tolerance policy, and then updated it when they needed a reliever. The nature of the statement makes them look hypocritical.