Joe Benz Auto

[TUM301]

Now that it`s over was wondering what other Net 54`ers thought about this Joe Benz auto that recently ended on ebay. Watched it for a month and compared it too the few examples here on the site. Had a couple things going for it, well established seller, Govt dated post card, and $ back if not PSA certified. Anyway, didn`t want to out it while active but would much appreciate any thoughts from fellow site members. Thanx in advance, Murph

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1919-BLACK-SOX-Joe-Benz-SIGNED-GPC-D-1957-TOUGH-/142892457784?_sop=16&hash=item21450ddf38%3Ag%3Aeh8AAOSwBSxbItnA&_nkw=joe+benz&_sacat=64482&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&nma=true&si=EbRqA8v6RKQSgKgNlP%252FuhaxFsLE%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[mr2686]

Sig looks good, as does the date/location of the cancellation mark of the GPC. Did you pick this one up?

[Scott Garner]

Absolutely legit

[Duluth Eskimo]

I sold one about a year ago (GPC) from same year range that matches it exactly. I believe I sold it for less than the asking price you showed, but it looks absolutely fine to me.

[TUM301]

Thank you gentlemen for sharing your thoughts. Yes I did pick this Benz up and it arrived the other day. Been trying to collect members of the 1919 Black Sox for a while now. Have about a dozen or so but the remaining players are mostly out of my limited price range. This transaction also included 2 Heilbroners, Herman Pilette and Buster Ross. Also putting together a "limited budget" Babe Ruth project. Trying to find all the Heilbroners cards for pitchers of the Babe`s HR`s , #`s 1,100,200,300 400 500 600 700 and the 1932 "called shot". Again appreciate your valued autograph input you guys are THE best ! Murph

[mr2686]

Nice pickup Murph. I also collect the Black Sox, and agree that some can be very pricey...to say the least. I cannot access flicker, but was wondering which of the Black Sox you have and what scope (just the players or including people like Abe Attell, etc).

[ThomasL]

Here's my Benz auto for comparison
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p447/tommylee42/Image%2071_zpsmz5dsjz3.jpg

Been collecting Black Sox related items for about 20 years now (not long compared to many other folks). No doubt that Benz is legit...was a little on the high end as far as price goes for him, but it was a GPC which usually gets a bump in value.

As far as autographs go Ive been lucky in nabbing some tough 1919 Sox guys (Wilkinson, Ragan, Gleason) but have hit the availability wall now. I have 19 (including a Mrs Joe Jackson and not including a Risberg Im having authenticated) different 1919 Sox. Plus 5 possible Phantom players/spring training members (Bruno Haas, Ed Tabor, Bill Stewart, Roy Hansen, Fred Henry)

Been beating the bushes trying to shake loose the toughies but no luck yet (I dont think I have ever in my life even seen an example of Win Noyes by the way)!

Good luck with the collecting, I have many doubles of the easier guys if needed.

[prewarsports]

There was a Win Noyes in the Heilbroner collection but it never hit the open market.

[mr2686]

Here's my Benz auto for comparison
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p447/tommylee42/Image%2071_zpsmz5dsjz3.jpg

Been collecting Black Sox related items for about 20 years now (not long compared to many other folks). No doubt that Benz is legit...was a little on the high end as far as price goes for him, but it was a GPC which usually gets a bump in value.

As far as autographs go Ive been lucky in nabbing some tough 1919 Sox guys (Wilkinson, Ragan, Gleason) but have hit the availability wall now. I have 19 (including a Mrs Joe Jackson and not including a Risberg Im having authenticated) different 1919 Sox. Plus 5 possible Phantom players/spring training members (Bruno Haas, Ed Tabor, Bill Stewart, Roy Hansen, Fred Henry)

Been beating the bushes trying to shake loose the toughies but no luck yet (I dont think I have ever in my life even seen an example of Win Noyes by the way)!

Good luck with the collecting, I have many doubles of the easier guys if needed.


Wow Thomas, 20 (with Risberg) plus spring training members is quite an accomplishment. I have 15 (including Attell) but I don't think I'll get over 20...but you never know. Hey, how about posing a pic of your Kid Gleason? That's one I'd really like to get someday.

[mr2686]

Oops, nevermind. Just saw the Gleason in another thread. Super nice!

[ThomasL]

Thanks. That Gleason contract has been sold a few times by auction houses in the past I think for $1700, $1400 and I bought it for just under $1000 early this year...so prices have been dropping it seems

[ss]

Here are a couple of Win Noyes for your exemplar files. Have never seen a Noyes come up for sale.