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Yoda
07-29-2018, 01:16 PM
Despite my inability to provide a link, tech-challenged, you know, please check out the captioned on Ebay for the PSA 4 Lungren Cubs team variation ending shortly and tell me if you agree with the assigned grade. The lower front clearly shows a wrinkle cutting thru to the reverse with a fainter crease behind it. Should be a 2.5 at best. And the new PSA hologram is there, showing it was graded recently. Kinda makes you wonder, particularly with a $600 price tag. Clearly a case of buy the holder, not the card.

commishbob
07-29-2018, 02:19 PM
Here's the link (I think)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CENTERED-PSA-4-VG-EX-T206-CARL-LUNDGREN-CUBS-VARIATION-1909-PIEDMONT-GRADED-CARD/123220949989?hash=item1cb08a7be5%3Ag%3AaVkAAOSwqlh a2try%3Asc%3AUSPSExpressMail%2177530%21US%21-1&_sacat=0&_nkw=PSA+4+Lungren+Cubs&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

Throttlesteer
07-29-2018, 02:21 PM
Agreed, it's a 2.5 at best. There's actually a 2 and SGC 3 that present better than this 4.

rats60
07-29-2018, 03:11 PM
Agree that is overgraded. I have had nicer cards graded 3

brianp-beme
07-29-2018, 04:49 PM
But doggone it, the seller claims it is centered, and that is all that collectors apparently crave nowadays.

Brian

frankbmd
07-29-2018, 05:03 PM
Despite my inability to provide a link, tech-challenged, you know, please check out the captioned on Ebay for the PSA 4 Lungren Cubs team variation ending shortly and tell me if you agree with the assigned grade. The lower front clearly shows a wrinkle cutting thru to the reverse with a fainter crease behind it. Should be a 2.5 at best. And the new PSA hologram is there, showing it was graded recently. Kinda makes you wonder, particularly with a $600 price tag. Clearly a case of buy the holder, not the card.

I would much rather buy the holder, than hold the buyer, centering not withstanding.

Aquarian Sports Cards
07-29-2018, 06:25 PM
Remember too it could be a reholder from an earlier slab

swarmee
07-29-2018, 06:55 PM
Cert number is within the last year.

Throttlesteer
07-29-2018, 07:05 PM
I don't think there was ever an era where that would be considered a 4. 3 perhaps, but not a 4

Aquarian Sports Cards
07-29-2018, 07:42 PM
Yeah that's a legit moderate to heavy crease, plus the wrinkles. I know its in the corner but still

ronniehatesjazz
07-29-2018, 07:54 PM
I would much rather buy the holder, than hold the buyer, centering not withstanding.

I couldn't have said it any better myself Frank.

ronniehatesjazz
07-29-2018, 07:55 PM
It is an awfully generous grade. Still a nice card but I agree with the 2.5 mark.

Leon
07-30-2018, 06:55 AM
They would have given me a 1.5 on it. The '51 Mantle I had smoked it in condition and they gave it a 2. Don't collect holders :).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/123220949989?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l10137
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steve B
07-30-2018, 01:28 PM
What's funny is that the new Ebay shows me this listing, for the same card, but graded a 3 with a bit of paperloss on the front.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CENTERED-PSA-3-VG-GRADED-T206-LUNDGREN-CUBS-VARIATION-1909-PIEDMONT-SEE-TOP-LEFT-/113175040323?oid=123220949989

scooter729
07-30-2018, 01:37 PM
What's funny is that the new Ebay shows me this listing, for the same card, but graded a 3 with a bit of paperloss on the front.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CENTERED-PSA-3-VG-GRADED-T206-LUNDGREN-CUBS-VARIATION-1909-PIEDMONT-SEE-TOP-LEFT-/113175040323?oid=123220949989

The original card has since sold it appears, so thanks to eBay's default method of popping up an active listing, it's now showing the new listing of a 3 with paper loss which also appears overgraded!

Sean
07-30-2018, 03:38 PM
Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. :confused: