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wdwfan
07-06-2018, 01:40 PM
Not sure if I"m in the right section or not, but I have a question about stamps. In particular, I believe the year is 1961. On my last trip to the LCS, I picked up 4 stamps. They're all common players and have a $2 BV apiece. I paid $6 for the group of 4.

The thing is they're still attached in groups of 2 in the original panel. Does that make them more valuable than if they're just pulled apart?

Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
https://i.imgur.com/3Sxrynb.jpg?1

Does them being in the original panel of 2 instead of cut individually make them more valuable? If so how much? Like 2-3x or more or less? Or the same value as the individual stamp? I have never dealt in these stamps and just thought they were cool when I saw them on my last visit to the LCS.

Thanks a bunch for the help.

Leon
07-06-2018, 01:49 PM
This question can pertain to pre war stamps too so it crosses eras. I don't know about values but personally I usually like things preserved in their natural state, so I would want them uncut.

sb1
07-06-2018, 02:46 PM
Common Panels are worth roughly 2-3x's what each single would be, thus are more desirable. Not rare or even scarce but collected by many in that form.

swarmee
07-06-2018, 03:30 PM
As always, it depends. I got a 1969 Mantle panel with Rodgers for much less ($110 including shipping) than a Mantle single in lower grade (PSA8 went for $511, then resold two months later for $170) just because it's not part of the Mantle PSA Set Registry.

https://www.psacard.com/cert/31198003/

https://caimages.collectors.com/psaimages/32264/31198003/mantlestamp.jpg

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprices/baseball-cards/1969-topps-stamps/mickey-mantle/auction/1587867

https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.net/-3920596440578482519/1874001807838928183.jpg

Demand for the same item can be higher or lower depending on a number of factors.

Baseballcrazy62
07-06-2018, 03:42 PM
For what it’s worth: I prefer the panels.

CobbSpikedMe
07-06-2018, 03:57 PM
I actually like the look of a single stamp as opposed to the 2-stamp panels. I would not, however, split the panel to have two separate stamps. I'm just not a fan of cards with more than one player on them. There are exceptions of course, like two player OJs or KBats or action shots.

ALR-bishop
07-06-2018, 04:01 PM
I built that set in singles with a few panel examples. In my experience full panels were in general more expensive and harder to find. The SCD Standard Catalog 2013 edition listed a mint set of singles at $900 Mint and Mint panels at $3000. The prices in the Catalog were never very accurate for insert and test issues ( or anything else), but that differential is consistent with my experience collecting them

But as John points out grading and the registry can create differences. I collected the set in ungraded form

hcv123
07-07-2018, 06:08 AM
I built that set in singles with a few panel examples. In my experience full panels were in general more expensive and harder to find. The SCD Standard Catalog 2013 edition listed a mint set of singles at $900 Mint and Mint panels at $3000. The prices in the Catalog were never very accurate for insert and test issues ( or anything else), but that differential is consistent with my experience collecting them

But as John points out grading and the registry can create differences. I collected the set in ungraded form

(about pricing - I have some odd panels and singles, but didn't collect the set)!

JustinD
07-07-2018, 07:23 AM
As always, it depends. I got a 1969 Mantle panel with Rodgers for much less ($110 including shipping) than a Mantle single in lower grade (PSA8 went for $511, then resold two months later for $170) just because it's not part of the Mantle PSA Set Registry.

https://caimages.collectors.com/psaimages/32264/31198003/mantlestamp.jpg

Demand for the same item can be higher or lower depending on a number of factors.

I can see the argument for 61-62, but that's a two stamp panel for 69'. What would be the point of not further separating it? I think I would lean towards singles there as anything less than a full panel or strip is just a piece of the whole. I have seen people who like those in 4 stamp blocks because it is card sized for display. full strips and panels seems much more difficult because of the awkward size.

swarmee
07-07-2018, 07:52 AM
Yeah, I didn't submit the panel myself. I think that the reason it's not in the Master Set is because it was arbitrary as to how it was submitted. They do have the full panel (12 stamps) as a set item.
One of the more interesting things about the question is: do you separate a damaged item that is clean on one stamp or keep them together since that's how it was naturally?
Like a Bazooka panel (intended to be cut into cards) that has a pinhole through the middle of the three cards. Some collectors would prefer the panel, others would prefer the higher grade cards separated individually so they didn't have to see an eyesore or get a Poor 1 for the entire panel if submitted whole.

JustinD
07-07-2018, 10:06 AM
It's surprising to me that they stabbed and graded an arbitrary panel like that to begin. I have a feeling it was from a master set collector hoping to get it added as a new entry for the master. When they were turned down they likely moved it.

My personal way is collecting the 61's signed. I bought a signed Davenport years ago and just liked the way it looked. Now I pick them up when I see one at a fair price. I have an Aaron I picked up over ten years ago that was signed before his sig went rough that is really cool. If I can locate it in the boxes I'll try to add.

In that niche I totally like them separate, but if I ever find a signed pair you can bet I'll try for it. :D