Gehrig W590 strip card on eBay

[Snapolit1]

Post deleted after seller addressed the issue I raised.

[h2oya311]

I noticed that this card (or one like it) has been sold several times in a row on eBay. Red flag for me (ever since card #2), but I hadn't checked to see if these were just returned to him or if he was selling multiples of the same card (aka reprints).

Thanks for giving me some comfort that my spidey-senses aren't totally off.

[brianp-beme]

This seller has sold a ton of strip cards, many of them W590, and a bunch of these were offered in larger size lots. Many of these lots included numerous duplicates. I won one of his lots, and all the cards are completely authentic.

I have seen many original strip card collections that have included numerous duplicates. This seller got lucky and inherited a boatload that included a bunch of Lou Gehrig cards.

Brian

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Easy way to check, is it the same photo in each Gehrig listing?

[boxcar18]

I checked the pictures in the listings and they are all different.

[BLongley]

I checked the pictures in the listings and they are all different.

Me too, clearly different cuts on each Gehrig.

[Snapolit1]

Maybe not same photo but I’d like to see one of his cards authenticated. If I am
Wrong I stand corrected.

Why would someone not have these cards graded and probably leave 50% of more on the table? Inexplicable.

[rhettyeakley]

Maybe not same photo but I’d like to see one of his cards authenticated. If I am
Wrong I stand corrected.

Why would someone not have these cards graded and probably leave 50% of more on the table? Inexplicable.

A lot of the collections owned by the people on this forum would probably make your head explode if you feel that is really inexplicable.

I sell a ton and honestly just don't have time for the grading thing, the turnaround time is just too dang long to be honest. If I purchase already graded great but have rarely had things graded myself.

[brianp-beme]

Not everyone with cards is in the hobby or even that aware of the grading game. These cards apparently were passed down to the seller...and they want to sell. This scenario has been around as long as the cards have. Are they leaving money on the table? Of course. But they probably are ecstatic that they are able to get multiple hundreds of dollars for cut down little pieces of cardboard.

One of the strip cards I received from this seller is at the grading company.
When it comes back (knowing the grading company, it might be quite some time) I will let you all know if it was graded authentic or not. Like I said, what I received was all completely authentic.

Brian

[Fballguy]

Probably legit, but the guy isn't doing himself any favors with his "can't guarantee they're authentic so please bid accordingly" disclaimer. That's straight from the Scammer 101 handbook.

If he had so many and started to have successful sales, it doesn't make sense to not grade....he's clearly aware of the process as he mentions it...and short of that, at least drop the suspicious caveat.

[CADreamin]

Hi all, I'm the seller in question. A fellow eBay user tipped me off to the discussion on this forum. I'm a little floored and, frankly, humbled by the interest.

The Gehrig cards are all different. The one posted now is the last of 4 or 5 that I had from that series.

The story of how I came into the cards is legit. My Grandpa spent his entire life across the river from NYC, and as a huge baseball fan in general, and a Yankee fan specifically. The cards were part of a box he handed over to me before he passed in 1998. There were a number of postwar cards in the mix, in addition to what I've listed more currently.

I spent much of my life being a reasonable dedicated card collector, but I've reached an age and a point in my life where other things are just more important to me. Accordingly, I'm making an effort to downsize not only the card collection, but a lot of the rest of my life in general.

I'm well aware of the grading process and how it works. Am I leaving money on the table by not having the cards graded? No doubt. Do I care? Not especially. I work a full-time job and a part-time job, 60 hours per week. There is an upfront time and a cost involved with grading that I'm not inclined to incur. I'm perfectly content to release these one, or two, or a small lot at a time, in the little spare time that I have. It's good progress toward my downsizing, a productive effort, and a little extra money in my pocket.

This may strike some of you as strange, but I don't care if the cards go for $5 each or $5,000. If the buyer gets a great deal and chooses to have the cards graded and subsequently flip them or add them to a collection, more power to you. They're obviously doing you more good than they are me, sitting on my closet.

I still have about 4 transactions for which feedback has not come in, but the feedback I have received has been 100% positive, and buyers have specifically mentioned in the feedback that they've had the cards graded and they've come back legit. I'm happy that they're happy.

Before each listing, I look at my card vs. images of graded cards to look for obvious signs of reprinting, but that's the extent of it. Specifically to the Scammer 101 handbook comment, I include that disclaimer because it's honest. If that's your faithfully held opinion, you're certainly entitled to it, but it seems to me a scammer would go out of their way to hype up what they have as legit, then quickly bail. I'm still here with happy buyers.

But the fact remains that eBay provides three options for describing a card: "authenticated", "reprint", and "unknown". Unknown is the description that best fits, and my disclaimer is an honest extension of that.

I hope this clears up some questions. Again, thank you for the discussion and the interest.

[Fballguy]

Not my faithfully held opinion but standard operating procedure for anyone trying to "accidentally" pass of a fake as an original. If you're a member of this forum and a card collector, I can't believe you wouldn't know that.

I wasn't accusing you of that, however...I thought you were legit. Just didn't think you were doing yourself any favors being noncommittal. But doesn't sound like you need the money. Good deal for the collectors.


Before each listing, I look at my card vs. images of graded cards to look for obvious signs of reprinting, but that's the extent of it. Specifically to the Scammer 101 handbook comment, I include that disclaimer because it's honest. If that's your faithfully held opinion, you're certainly entitled to it, but it seems to me a scammer would go out of their way to hype up what they have as legit, then quickly bail. I'm still here with happy buyers.

[bnorth]

For the life of me I will never understand all you guys that come on here saying that cards need grading. Even funnier when you mention how much $ is being left on the table. IF this is true why don't you guys buy all the cards have them graded and make yourselves rich? All I ever see is the get them graded BS.

Rant over gentlemen, have a great day!:D

[glchen]

I won two of the cards. Ruth (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-31-W590-Babe-Ruth-Strip-Baseball-Card-TRIMMED-Hand-Cut-No-Reserve/253596778839?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649) & Gehrig (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-31-W590-Lou-Gehrig-Strip-Baseball-Card-TRIMMED-Hand-Cut-No-Reserve/253606066510?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649) Here they are, fully authenticated. :)

[h2oya311]

Thanks for coming on here and explaining yourself. The cards have all certainly seemed legit and I did notice the minor differences in how these strip cards were cut, but as others mentioned, saying that you are unsure as to their authenticity is something that all scammers use so hat language (at least in our community) a “red flag”. Having 5 or so Gehrig “rookies” of a card that isn’t all that common is also a “red flag”. But I believe your story and I’m glad you found our forum to clear the air.

Best of luck with your remaining auctions!

[BLongley]

Not my faithfully held opinion but standard operating procedure for anyone trying to "accidentally" pass of a fake as an original. If you're a member of this forum and a card collector, I can't believe you wouldn't know that.

I wasn't accusing you of that, however...I thought you were legit. Just didn't think you were doing yourself any favors being noncommittal. But doesn't sound like you need the money. Good deal for the collectors.

He just joined today to post, so not an active member and card collector it seems.

[CADreamin]

My pleasure, Derek. Thanks for the well wishes.

Gary, thanks for the verification as well as your purchases. I'm pleased that you are pleased.

To all, thanks for the discussion and the opportunity to participate in it.

[Snapolit1]

Since I started this I will correct my original post. Thanks for addressing this.

There are 10 of these cards authenticated by PSA. It seems you have maybe half that many or more ungraded. I'd urge you to get them graded.

[RedsFan1941]

given your track record on Net54, why wouldn’t anyone not take your advice?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

People talk about not grading and leaving money on the table. I think the seller (minus the disclaimer) is doing a great job. If he had gone to a dealer with these, what would've he gotten? He's willing to take the time and list them slowly and individually. I imagine he's making somewhere between wholesale and absolute top retail, but I certainly don't think he's taking a bath on these.

[BLongley]

Well I just won the last Gehrig W590 at $710 today. I will be submitting for authentication but pretty sure it will be good.

[glchen]

Great pickup! Definitely the cheapest way to get a Gehrig rookie card.

[ullmandds]

Well I just won the last Gehrig W590 at $710 today. I will be submitting for authentication but pretty sure it will be good.

lucky dog...you just beat me!!

[BLongley]

And as expected it was Authentic:)

[brianp-beme]

I got my strip card from this seller back from the grading company, and it was deemed authentic as well.

Brian