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brass_rat
06-10-2018, 09:59 AM
Sean thought that the group could "fill up a thread" with T213-3 Overprints -- let's see how close we can get to a virtual, collective set!

Post your T213-3 Factory 8 Overprints, and I will update the checklist below as we check them off.

I'll start with the WaJo.

Cheers,
Steve

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34% complete (24/70)

Red Ames
Home Run Baker
** Chief Bender (no trees) [Posts 16 and 55]
** Chief Bender (trees) [Post 48]
Roger Bresnahan
Al Bridwell
Miner Brown
Bobby Byrne
Frank Chance (batting)
Frank Chance (portrait)
Hal Chase (holding trophy)
** Hal Chase (portrait) [Post 22]
** Hal Chase (throwing) [Post 22]
** Ty Cobb (batting) [Post 17]
** Ty Cobb (portrait) [Post 5]
** Eddie Collins [Post 16]
Sam Crawford
Harry Davis
** Mike Donlin [Post 7]
Wild Bill Donovan
Mickey Doolan (batting)
** Mickey Doolan (fielding) [Posts 45 and 46]
** Larry Doyle (batting) [Post 31]
Larry Doyle (portrait)
** Jean Dubuc [Post 21]
Jack Dunn
** Kid Elberfeld [Post 21]
** Johnny Evers [Post 16]
Chick Gandil
Clark Griffith
Buck Herzog
** Dick Hoblitzell [Post 21]
Miller Huggins (hands at mouth)
** Miller Huggins (portrait) [Post 54]
John Hummel
** Hughie Jennings (both hands)[Post 37]
** Hughie Jennings (one hand) [Post 10]
** Walter Johnson [Post 1]
Tim Jordan
Joe Kelley
Ed Konetchy
Nap Lajoie
Sherry Magee [Post 21][/B]
Rube Marquard (pitching)
Rube Marquard (portrait)
** Christy Mathewson [Post 21]
** John McGraw (glove at side) [Post 21]
** John McGraw (portrait) [Post 21]
George McQuillan
** Fred Merkle [Post 4]
Dots Miller
Mike Mowrey
Chief Myers (Meyers) (Brooklyn)
Chief Myers (Meyers) (New Haven)
Dode Paskert
Jack Quinn
Ed Reulbach
Nap Rucker
Dick Rudolph
Germany Schaeffer (Schaefer)
Wildfire Schulte
** Tris Speaker [Post 16]
Gabby Street (catching)
Gabby Street (portrait)
** Jeff Sweeney [Post 23]
Ira Thomas
Joe Tinker
** Zach Wheat [Post 3]
Geo. Wiltse
Heinie Zimmerman

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edjs
06-10-2018, 10:06 AM
I will love seeing this complete, but alas, I have nothing to add. :(

kdixon
06-10-2018, 10:06 AM
Wheat.

Sean
06-10-2018, 10:08 AM
I would be remiss if I didn't contribute:


319173 319174

Blunder19
06-10-2018, 01:09 PM
i can contribute.. to my knowledge this is the only known example of the cobb red port OP... . i would be interested in knowing if any other collectors are aware of a 2nd example out there..
https://i.imgur.com/5YmLi9N.jpg

ValKehl
06-10-2018, 01:42 PM
I just love threads like this, even though this thread makes me regret that in 25-30 years of collecting vintage type cards, I never picked up one of these T213-3 overprints. Sadly, it just never became a high enough priority. :(

ullmandds
06-10-2018, 02:13 PM
my one and only!

Sean
06-10-2018, 02:20 PM
Hey Pete, it's funny that Donlin doesn't have a team listed in the caption. Is he the only one without one?

I know that he had been retired for six or seven years. On his 1914 Type-2 card they wrote ".300 hitter for 7 years" instead of listing a team. Maybe in 1919 they decided that leaving it blank was better. Perhaps the fact that they included him at all so long after he retired is a testament to what a popular player he was back then.

brass_rat
06-10-2018, 02:45 PM
Hey Sean,

A number of retired players were included without team captions, including Chance, Crawford, Lajoie, and Wiltse.

Rhotchkiss
06-10-2018, 05:30 PM
Hughie One-hand

ullmandds
06-10-2018, 05:39 PM
Hey Sean,

A number of retired players were included without team captions, including Chance, Crawford, Lajoie, and Wiltse.

I did NOT know that! Its a quirky tough little set!!

ullmandds
06-10-2018, 05:40 PM
Hey Pete, it's funny that Donlin doesn't have a team listed in the caption. Is he the only one without one?

I know that he had been retired for six or seven years. On his 1914 Type-2 card they wrote ".300 hitter for 7 years" instead of listing a team. Maybe in 1919 they decided that leaving it blank was better. Perhaps the fact that they included him at all so long after he retired is a testament to what a popular player he was back then.

Its worth meeeelions!!

gabrinus
06-10-2018, 05:57 PM
This sounds like a thread for Trobba.....Steve here is a list of cards I no longer own and don't have scans for....

Bender--no trees
Chase portrait
Eddie Collins
Jean Dubuc
Evers
Magee
Speaker

Epps
06-10-2018, 06:43 PM
I can also confirm Gandil with overprint, but I can't find the image (Not my card)

brass_rat
06-10-2018, 07:19 PM
Thanks, guys! In the interest of building a "virtual set" in the thread, I'll reserve checking off the cards when people post from their collection...I have scans of some (of cards that I don't own), but I figured it'd be fun if I don't jump ahead. :)

I'll be thoroughly impressed if we make it to 50% complete on this one. :)

trobba
06-11-2018, 08:30 AM
Fun thread, and it is quite ambitious to get half of the set on this thread. From my own research, I haven't seen (or heard of) that many. I can share my list when the experiment is over and see how we did....here is my first pass at posting some pics, more will follow later.

I know my "picture to post" strategy is quite average in terms of quality but I think you can see enough.

calvindog
06-11-2018, 08:35 AM
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5791/20851618719_7a732580c8_z.jpg

brass_rat
06-11-2018, 10:26 AM
Great cards, guys!

Rhotchkiss
06-11-2018, 10:58 AM
Awesome. Rob, I said it once and will say it again, you are a t213 stud

Sean
06-11-2018, 11:19 AM
Awesome. Rob, I said it once and wil day it again, you are a t213 stud

I got my Merkle Factory 8 from Rob. :)

trobba
06-11-2018, 12:29 PM
Some more:

others to follow.

trobba
06-11-2018, 12:42 PM
Don't own the blue Chase anymore, but here is a pic...

Also have a rare double overprint, have never seen another one like it.

trobba
06-11-2018, 12:58 PM
last two I believe:

ValKehl
06-11-2018, 01:28 PM
Rob, you have an amazing group of cards! You really need a scanner to do them justice! :D

trobba
06-11-2018, 03:03 PM
I prefer the time tested strategy of:

nice cards + bad scans = minimized sale price

gabrinus
06-11-2018, 05:11 PM
I can agree with that Rob....Jerry

buymycards
06-11-2018, 06:10 PM
I count 17 SGC slabs that say "overprint" or "Factory 8". The SGC pop report shows 282 Type 3's graded, but only 1 card that says "Factory No 8 Overprint".
You would think that if it is listed on the slab it would show up in the pop report.

atx840
06-11-2018, 08:37 PM
Thanks to Trobba. Wonderful cards everyone

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2921/14202169404_17ede14426_b.jpg

edjs
06-11-2018, 08:56 PM
Thanks to Trobba. Wonderful cards everyone



It is good to see one of your cards again, Chris. I hope you are well.

Sean
06-12-2018, 06:11 AM
Hey, a Chris Browne sighting! Nice to hear from you again Chris. It's nice to know that you still stop by the Board from time to time. I hope that you come back full-time some time soon. :)

RCMcKenzie
08-09-2018, 12:50 AM
I'm up to 20/70 on T213-3. I was up to about 15 when I sold them all about 20 years ago. I only have 1 dupe, a Hoblitzel I recently bought by accident...

gabrinus
08-09-2018, 01:01 AM
Nice ones Robert...like that Doyle.....Jerry

RCMcKenzie
08-09-2018, 01:37 AM
Thanks, Jerry, yeah I don't remember having any overprints in my first set run. These are hard to find. Cheers

Sean
08-09-2018, 11:23 PM
There is a Miller Huggins in the Huggins and Scott auction tonight. I'm hoping that one of us got it. I can tell you that it wasn't me, though. :(

ullmandds
08-10-2018, 07:20 AM
That one sure is a beauty too!

brass_rat
12-23-2018, 04:52 PM
I forgot to update with the Doyle batting... We're now up to 30% complete!

Bridwell
12-25-2018, 09:01 AM
I have the Jennings 2-hands card.

gabrinus
12-26-2018, 10:33 AM
That is a cool Jennings, Ron...Jerry

buymycards
11-27-2019, 02:17 PM
We seem to be stuck at 21 different. Does anyone have any that aren't listed?

Thanks, Rick

trobba
11-28-2019, 05:16 AM
I know of others but don't own them or have scans, so don't think those counted towards your list?

gabrinus
11-28-2019, 08:44 AM
Rob, if I remember correctly Steve only wanted scans from cards people owned:D...Jerry

Leon
12-02-2019, 06:47 AM
Great cards, guys. Thanks for sharing. I wish I had kept a few of these I had.

brass_rat
12-02-2019, 10:15 AM
I was hoping that we could work on the virtual set as collective owners of the cards, but I'm not above changing the scope of the goals of this thread if it makes it more interesting for everyone. :)

gabrinus
12-02-2019, 04:07 PM
That's the Christmas spirit Steve!!..Jerry

BuffettFan
12-02-2019, 05:13 PM
I have the Doolan Fielding T213-3 Overprint in an SGC 45 holder. I have not been as active here over the past few years so it may be difficult to send scans.

ullmandds
12-04-2019, 04:07 PM
here is mikes!

brass_rat
12-04-2019, 07:12 PM
Nice! Checklist updated :)

phlflyer1
02-01-2020, 04:39 PM
Hi Steve,

Thanks for pointing me to this thread so that I could contribute. Here is Bender (with foliage).

brass_rat
02-01-2020, 07:32 PM
Nice, thanks, Scott -- we're now a third of the way there!

Sean
07-06-2020, 02:49 PM
Bump for attention.

buymycards
07-06-2020, 02:57 PM
I see that the Collins that is currently posted in the BST is not the same Collins that is listed in post 16 of this thread.

Rhotchkiss
07-06-2020, 06:27 PM
I see that the Collins that is currently posted in the BST is not the same Collins that is listed in post 16 of this thread.

I believe there are two Collins- I think the other is an SGC 3, both have the name cut off. The SGC 3 sold in REA 3-4 years ago. Super cool card

gabrinus
07-11-2020, 07:51 PM
Cool...the scans are back...fingers crossed...Jerry

molenick
05-25-2021, 07:37 AM
Here is a Huggins portrait.

Jobu
05-25-2021, 07:53 AM
Bender no trees

Sean
05-25-2021, 04:17 PM
I see that the Collins that is currently posted in the BST is not the same Collins that is listed in post 16 of this thread.

So we know that there are two different Collins and two different Merkles with the Factory 8 Overprint. Are there any other cards with multiple examples?

brass_rat
05-25-2021, 04:30 PM
Bender no trees...post 16 and 55.

Nice cards, guys!

Huggins portrait is new to this thread.

Sean
05-25-2021, 04:43 PM
Bender no trees...post 16 and 55.

Nice cards, guys!

Huggins portrait is new to this thread.

So Bender, Collins and Merkle are known with multiple examples.

Jobu
05-25-2021, 07:25 PM
I think Hoblitzell might be the most common. There are a few in this thread and I think a few others out there.

So Bender, Collins and Merkle are known with multiple examples.

realbigfatdog
01-19-2022, 03:25 PM
I found this thread earlier and wanted to post an update. Rob was gracious enough to let me acquire the Hal Chase throwing from him over the weekend. Happy to add it to my Chase collection and happy to be a part of this exclusive owners club.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220119/2410ce200a876e0ef082a1e6b5dcbeed.jpg

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gabrinus
01-19-2022, 11:32 PM
Nice Chase!!...Jerry

chriskim
01-20-2022, 05:03 AM
a very stupid question..... Are these overprints very rare?

realbigfatdog
01-20-2022, 05:10 AM
a very stupid question..... Are these overprints very rare?From what I've learned, only 1 or 2 of each card exists

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trobba
01-20-2022, 05:19 AM
I believe roughly half the type 3 set have no known examples...many of those remaining have only 1 known example.

The handful of those left have up to 3 or 4 known examples.

So, quite rare.

Rob

gabrinus
01-21-2022, 02:25 PM
Especially ones with double overprints...Jerry