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ValKehl
06-07-2018, 10:09 PM
I assume everyone is enjoying seeing the fabulous cards of Ruth, Cobb, Wagner & Jackson in this current thread: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=255760

But, as so often is the case, the focus is on great hitters, as opposed to great pitchers. So, I have started this thread to show some love to four of the greatest pitchers of the same era.

Show your treasured cards of Cy, Matty, WaJo, and Pete that have a population of 20 or less in the combined PSA & SGC pop reports. And, let's make this competitive - let's strive to show more scarce/rare cards than are shown in the hitters thread! And, please show the backs of your cards, unless the backs are blank.

I'll start with this 1911 Baseball Bats of WaJo (my avatar) - my card is raw, and there are 4 in the combined pop reports:

paul
06-07-2018, 10:21 PM
I don't know the population reports, but there can't be many of these.

brass_rat
06-07-2018, 11:33 PM
Good one, Val!

sb1
06-08-2018, 05:24 AM
Couple of tougher ones.

jerrys
06-08-2018, 06:37 AM
1/1
318840

slidekellyslide
06-08-2018, 06:56 AM
Do pinbacks count?

KMayUSA6060
06-08-2018, 07:18 AM
Damnit. I had just finished picking my jaw off the floor from the other thread...

iowadoc77
06-08-2018, 07:30 AM
Steve- amazing Drum!
Scott- that’s got to be one of the nicest eye appeal E107s for any player, let alone Young!
Incredible cards!

frankbmd
06-08-2018, 07:40 AM
Did Cy win the election for treasurer in 1916?

Rhotchkiss
06-08-2018, 11:43 AM
Val, you can do better than that!! You must have dozens of rare wajo items to post; we’d love to see them. Great thread btw

Here is a low pop Matty

tedzan
06-08-2018, 02:19 PM
Hi Val .....my favorite Matty....traded a bunch of T206's for it quite a few years ago.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/W600xMattySGC.jpg



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Exhibitman
06-08-2018, 03:29 PM
D/K what the pop is and I don't really care, as I am still very happy to have picked up this card recently:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/T3%20WaJo%201.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/T3%20WaJo%202.jpg

I know there ain't 20 of these...

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/interestingexhibitcards/websize/4%20on%201%20b_1.jpg

iowadoc77
06-08-2018, 03:53 PM
Wow Ted! That is a beautiful W600.
What don’t you have?

sb1
06-08-2018, 04:08 PM
Guess I should post this one to go with Ted's

ullmandds
06-08-2018, 04:15 PM
guess i should post this one to go with ted's

bam!

tedzan
06-08-2018, 07:15 PM
There are not too many of these Matty's in circulation.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910couponmatty75x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1910couponmatty75xb.jpg



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puckpaul
06-08-2018, 07:29 PM
Meet up of the Matty W600 street clothes....my version. also a T5 Pinkerton Cardboard mount WaJo and a Matty T3 no ad back (out of order..sorry)

Paul

jerrys
06-08-2018, 07:31 PM
318941

Vintageclout
06-08-2018, 09:25 PM
Guess I should post this one to go with Ted's

Mathewson’s TRUE inaugural card....first released by the Sporting News January 1903. Breisch Williams Matty was released in the late spring 1903. A beauty Scott, and arguably the most significant Matty card!

BeanTown
06-08-2018, 09:27 PM
Lets get Mr. Young involved here.

Baseball Rarities
06-08-2018, 09:32 PM
Now, this is my kind of thread.

Great cards guys! Love the W600s and the PC760 Rose Co. postcard.

Jobu
06-08-2018, 10:06 PM
Tough to know how many Piedmont 42s are out there, but seems likely to fit the bill.

ValKehl
06-08-2018, 10:15 PM
Did someone mention Piedmont 42?

ValKehl
06-08-2018, 10:20 PM
I'll do two WaJos in a row to make Ryan H. happy.

BeanTown
06-08-2018, 11:30 PM
Lets go three in a row

pherbener
06-09-2018, 06:05 AM
Here's a couple of my Matty's

iowadoc77
06-09-2018, 08:00 AM
Love the W600s!!!
That Young is spectacular Jay!

Baseball Rarities
06-09-2018, 08:51 AM
1891 Ryder's Portraits Cabinet of Cy Young from his first full year in the Major Leagues.

puckpaul
06-09-2018, 09:02 AM
found a few others. been a long time since the Mathewson bottle from the Halper auction has seen the light of day, so here it is (one of my favorite pieces!). part of a set of 6 NY Giants bottles. i believe they are a unique set?

Also an M101-1 Sporting News Cy Young, a Close Candy Young, and an E92 Dockman Young.

And also ex-Halper, the large T200 Washington Senators with Walter.

Paul

BeanTown
06-09-2018, 09:04 AM
Young same time frame of 1891

puckpaul
06-09-2018, 09:19 AM
that Ryder portrait is gorgeous, Kevin!

tedzan
06-09-2018, 01:06 PM
Here's a Cy Young with less than 20 in the pop report column.

.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/acycle460cyoung.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/cycle460cyoung.jpg


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sb1
06-09-2018, 01:41 PM
The toughest Young of the W600's, the Cleveland version, but the earlier Boston is probably more popular.

yanksfan09
06-09-2018, 06:03 PM
I know for sure I have 3 that fit the bill...

Not sure on the pops of these Youngs?...

tedzan
06-09-2018, 06:17 PM
This Matty with a SOVEREIGN 460 back is very tough to find (as are the other five T206 super-prints).

.........http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/asov460chancematty25x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/bsov460chancematty25xy.jpg



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jerrys
06-09-2018, 06:56 PM
Hi Scott - For the 1909 Cleveland cards Sporting Life utilized the same picture of Cy Young wearing a Boston lace-top uniform as was used for his previous cards. These cards were issued near the very end of the W600 run. Hence scarcer.

319109

ValKehl
06-09-2018, 07:23 PM
Erick, I love your D381s, especially the WaJo. And, thanks for showing a Grover C. Alexander card - I was beginning to feel sorry for old "Pete" because none of his cards had yet been shown in this thread, and I don't have any in my collection to show.

My 1920 D327-1 Holsum Bread - WaJo card is raw. The pop reports show 1 (SGC) plus two 1921 D327-2 cards (1 each for PSA & SGC). I'd love to add a D327-2 to my WaJo collection.

yanksfan09
06-09-2018, 07:27 PM
Thanks Val, Nice Holsum!

Rhotchkiss
06-09-2018, 07:44 PM
I get it now Val, you are going to leak them out. Smart like a fox.

Awesome cards everyone. Great thread! This one is not rare per second, but rare for the grade? (Heck I just wanted to participate!)

ValKehl
06-09-2018, 08:45 PM
I get it now Val, you are going to leak them out. Smart like a fox.

Awesome cards everyone. Great thread! This one is not rare per second, but rare for the grade? (Heck I just wanted to participate!)

Ryan, thanks (I think) for the compliment. Since I am old and a Senators collector, I'll pretend I'm in good company with "The Old Fox" (a/k/a Clark Griffith, Senators owner and GM).

Ryan, you found a loophole with your "rare for the grade" Cy Young. Clever like a fox! :D

Getting back to this thread, my 1917 D350-2 Standard Biscuit - WaJo card is raw. Per the combined pop reports, this is the only example in existence on this planet (I couldn't resist using this Goodwin Auctions superlative)! :p

Kawika
06-09-2018, 09:14 PM
Don't know the pop report on these cards but am guessing there are less than 20 copies of each.

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/huge/JKA%20Matty%20_my%20copy_.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/huge/W600%20Matty.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/huge/M110%20Matty.jpg

The 1914 Cracker Jack probably exceeds the twenty-or-less criteria but everyone seems to like this one so I'll post it anyway.

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/huge/14CJ%20Matty1.jpg

Baseball Rarities
06-09-2018, 09:22 PM
Erick - this would make a good compliment to your individual cards.

brass_rat
06-09-2018, 10:37 PM
Beautiful cards, everyone!

Less than 20 T213-3...and I'm not aware of any other Factory 8 Overprint...

BeanTown
06-09-2018, 11:35 PM
I did a quick google search to see how many different W600s Cy Youngs I could find. Seems they all are scarce. I found two Images of the Cleveland Young unless they are the same below? Image on the left came off VCP and the one on the right was what Scott posted. When dealing with W600s, the mounts have different scarcity as well as, the images and player identification.

sb1
06-10-2018, 05:50 AM
Interesting, before this comparison I thought these were the only two W600 Cy Young Clevelands I could find, now when reexamining the side by sides they do appear to be the SAME cabinet, the first must have had some minor tweaking of the scan?? As they both have the stain in the exact spot.

yanksfan09
06-10-2018, 08:32 AM
Erick - this would make a good compliment to your individual cards. I will try and post a properly sized photo when I get back to my computer.

I totally agree Kevin! Here's mine... ;) Is the other one yours? Very nice!

Baseball Rarities
06-10-2018, 08:39 AM
I totally agree Kevin! Here's mine... ;) Is the other one yours? Very nice!

LOL. Great piece. Definitely belongs in your collection.

Yes, the other one is mine. Only three known AFAIK.

calvindog
06-10-2018, 11:16 AM
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4149/5097020839_84d42e4316_b.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8161/28875911230_41cabaaa79_b.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7384/27550932652_2e63206719_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4075/4857808350_243df8b197_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/808/40299981475_559ecec04b_c.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1754/42098677944_41a80ddb3a_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7248/27066013126_dae2d3a746.jpg

Kawika
06-10-2018, 11:58 AM
Terrific array of Matty items, Jeff. Particularly like the Factoryville home postcard. Just gets you thinking about life in those halcyon deadball days.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/large/Factoryville%20PA.JPG

ValKehl
06-10-2018, 03:21 PM
Some amazing cards in this thread thus far, especially Mattys and Youngs. Still hoping to see more Alexanders.

The E122 Am. Caramel WaJo is much tougher (combined pop reports - 8) than either series (80 or 120) of the E121 Am Caramel WaJo.

gonzo
06-10-2018, 03:37 PM
T330-2 Matty

tedzan
06-10-2018, 08:01 PM
Hi Val
I've taken the liberty of including Eddie Plank. There has to be at least one southpaw in this mix [who is in the same class as your 4 right-handers].

I hope you don't mind, ole buddy.


There are only 5 (or perhaps 6) T206 Plank cards with the SWEET CAPORAL 150, Factory #30 back.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206EddiePlankSC150x30.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206PlankSC150x30xb.jpg


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Jobu
06-10-2018, 08:51 PM
Cy playing with the local team right after retiring.

MVSNYC
06-10-2018, 09:03 PM
As shown is the Rush thread...Leon's former card ;)

ValKehl
06-10-2018, 09:06 PM
Ted, Eddie Plank was gertainly a great pitcher, but I would have included Lefty Grove before I included Plank. FYI, the reason I included Alexander instead of Grove (or Plank) is that I felt he enabled my group of 4 great pitchers to best correspond to the time period represented by the 4 great hitters in the other thread.

ValKehl
06-10-2018, 10:25 PM
WaJo's hands-at-chest pose is tougher than his pitching pose in the 1921 E121-80 American Caramel set. Based on the pop reports, there are likely 20 or more of these h-a-c poses in existence. However, the majority of them would have Type 1 backs (there are 4 back types - see Rhett Y.'s super article in Issue #26 of Old Cardboard Magazine). The Type 4 back is scarce, and furthermore, the back printing on mine reads from bottom-to-top, whereas the back printing on most E121-80s reads from top-to-bottom. Below is my Type 1 back (PSA 2) followed by my Type 4 back (SGC 60):

tedzan
06-11-2018, 02:00 AM
Speaking about Johnson (hands-at-chest)....here is his T206 from my all-SOVEREIGN set. It's pop report data is about 20 (+/- 2).
Whatever, it still qualifies being posted here, as it is a good-looking card with the colorful "apple-green" back.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/JohnsonHandsChestSovereign350.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/T206JohnsonS350xP460x50b.jpg



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robertsmithnocure
06-11-2018, 06:08 PM
Young same time frame of 1891

What a great cabinet card! John Thorn made a post about that image before. It makes sense that it would have been produced in 1889, or even before, when Young was playing semi-pro baseball in Uhrichsville.

T206Jim
06-11-2018, 06:27 PM
1912 RPPC in Galveston, Texas

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Shankweather
06-11-2018, 06:55 PM
I don't think there's a single Grover on here yet, so I'm posting my Oxford Confectionery even though it doesn't quite fit the criteria.

http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t396/Shankweather/IMG_20180611_204656907_zpswnow870c.jpg

BeanTown
06-11-2018, 08:37 PM
What a great cabinet card! John Thorn made a post about that image before. It makes sense that it would have been produced in 1889, or even before, when Young was playing semi-pro baseball in Uhrichsville.

Thanks Rob and Love that Matty PC Jim.

ValKehl
06-11-2018, 09:11 PM
I don't think there's a single Grover on here yet, so I'm posting my Oxford Confectionery even though it doesn't quite fit the criteria.

Stephen, thanks for showing Alexander some love. Actually, there is a D381 of Alexander shown earlier in Post #34.

ValKehl
06-11-2018, 09:39 PM
W575-1 cards with the Henry A. Johnson backstamp are scarce. Almost all that are known have a purple backstamp (I'm still looking for a WaJo). A very, very few have been found with a turquoise-color backstamp and a different address, as seen on this WaJo. I have also included a card (not a WaJo) with the purple backstamp for comparison.

Leon
06-12-2018, 06:19 AM
Dapper Walter....rppc proof

http://luckeycards.com/barrb.jpg

Solemany2k
06-12-2018, 06:24 AM
My favorite Mathewson I've owned. This M116 is just an amazing portrait. But then again all of these cards always make me drool . Even the graded 1s always Catherine my eyehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180612/0b269995d3f5dbbf81ac09f926749c8b.jpg

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Solemany2k
06-12-2018, 06:27 AM
My favorite Mathewson I've owned. This M116 is just an amazing portrait. But then again all of these cards always make me drool . Even the graded 1s always Catherine my eyehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180612/0b269995d3f5dbbf81ac09f926749c8b.jpg

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ValKehl
06-12-2018, 09:42 PM
I suspect folks are getting tired of seeing black & white WaJo cards with the hands-at-chest pose (but, I love this pose!), so I'll show my last two such cards in the same post. The combined pop reports show seven H801-8 Boston Store cards and eight E135 Collins-McCarthy cards. Anyone willing to part with a WaJo card with the h-a-c pose that I haven't posted in this thread, kindly email me at ekehl333@aol.com.

brass_rat
06-12-2018, 09:49 PM
Val, if you had more, I'd say keep those posts coming! Nothing quite like seeing rare cards!

As you know, I'm partial to a similar hands-at-chest pose. :)

ValKehl
06-12-2018, 10:11 PM
Val, as you know, I'm partial to a similar hands-at-chest pose. :)

Steve, do you mean ones like this? :D:);)

ajjohnsonsoxfan
06-12-2018, 10:38 PM
Love those W600's! And Jeff your 14 CJ Matty is just insane.

Here's a couple photos

tedzan
06-12-2018, 11:26 PM
Cy Young....85 years old (circa 1952 NYC gathering of some great Oldtimer's)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/TootsShorHOFphoto1956capt25.jpg



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brass_rat
06-13-2018, 05:19 AM
Steve, do you mean ones like this? :D:);)

Yes, just like that! ;)

tedzan
06-13-2018, 06:34 PM
My favorite T206 Matty pose.

Finding his SOVEREIGN 150 card....as Ringo Starr once sang...."It Don't Come Easy".

This card's combined pop report #'s equal approximately 20.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/JohnsonWCxSovereign150.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/JohnsonWCxSovereign150b.jpg


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pherbener
06-13-2018, 06:52 PM
Love those W600's! And Jeff your 14 CJ Matty is just insane.

Here's a couple photos

A.J. I LOVE that early Matty!!

ValKehl
06-13-2018, 09:59 PM
The combined pop reports for the W503 card of WaJo show 2 (mine is raw). Interestingly, the original photo used for this card was sold in the very recent RMY Auction, although there was no mention of this in the lot description - here's the link: https://rmyauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=34378 Unfortunately, I was merely an underbidder for this photo.

itjclarke
06-14-2018, 02:44 AM
Some amazing cards in this thread thus far, especially Mattys and Youngs. Still hoping to see more Alexanders.

The E122 Am. Caramel WaJo is much tougher (combined pop reports - 8) than either series (80 or 120) of the E121 Am Caramel WaJo.

The ever more rare variation, the PSA E121 holdered E122.
319627

... and E220
319628

ValKehl
06-14-2018, 09:29 PM
Since everyone has thoroughly enjoyed seeing (or maybe not) my black & white, real-photo cards of WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose, I assume you are anxious to see b & w, real-photo cards of WaJo with the pitching pose! :D

There aren't any of this card listed in the pop reports:

Leon
06-15-2018, 01:26 PM
Wonderful card, Val. Here is a WD Boyce Co./W575-1 Alexander and a few others in the scan.


Since everyone has thoroughly enjoyed seeing (or maybe not) my black & white, real-photo cards of WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose, I assume you are anxious to see b & w, real-photo cards of WaJo with the pitching pose! :D

There aren't any of this card listed in the pop reports:

ValKehl
06-15-2018, 03:20 PM
Leon, thanks for the kind words and for showing Alexander some love. Here's another 1-of-1 WaJo with his pitching pose, per the pop reports:

h2oya311
06-15-2018, 05:30 PM
Lovely stuff everyone!!! Such great eye candy!

1901 Police Gazette Supplement:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1901%20Mathewson.jpg

1914 Piedmont Art Stamps:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/baseballstamps/1914piedmontstamps/websize/1914%20Mathewson%2025.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/baseballstamps/1914piedmontstamps/websize/1914%20Mathewson%2025%20_back_.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/baseballstamps/1914piedmontstamps/websize/1914%20Johnson%2042.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/baseballstamps/1914piedmontstamps/websize/1914%20Johnson%2042%20_back_.jpg

sb1
06-15-2018, 05:35 PM
Derek, very nice Piedmont's! one of the toughest and underappreciated issues of the early 20th century. Even ones with nice fronts usually have back damage due to the adhesive gum, making it doubly tough to find problem free examples.

ValKehl
06-17-2018, 08:50 PM
Getting back to the E121-80s, the pitching pose of WaJo is easier than the hands-at-chest post - there are almost 50 listed in the combined pop reports. However, most of these have the Type 1 backs (the pop reports do not distinguish by back). I am confident there are less than 20 of each with the Type 2 and Type 3 backs, as shown below:

brianp-beme
06-19-2018, 10:43 AM
More Alexander and W503 love.

Brian

tedzan
06-19-2018, 12:21 PM
I do not know what the pop #'s are on this T202......so whatever, I still had to display it.
I don't have too many T202's, but Johnson is the favorite in my T202 set.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/at202walterjohnsonxknight.jpg


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ValKehl
06-19-2018, 11:00 PM
Ted, I'll give you a pass for your T202 WaJo, provided it has a black Factory 30 back! But really Ted, you should acquire some low-pop cards for your collection! :D (just teasin' ya, Ted)

ValKehl
06-23-2018, 08:35 PM
A thread on the main board has pretty much run out of steam when it falls to page 2. Many thanks to everyone who contrbuted their fantastic cards to this thread - fabulous eye candy. Here's one final post of two more low-pop, B & W, real-photo cards (everyone loves these - right?) that were produced from the same photo of WaJo - an E126 and a M101-6:

tedzan
06-26-2018, 08:48 PM
It's time to bump this thread up for another round of "oldies, but goodies".


http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/abwjohnsonproof.jpg


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BLongley
06-26-2018, 09:22 PM
Just picked this up from another member and he is teaching me interesting info on t206s.... so here is my new WaJo Sov 350 back... pop 16 on PSA and pop 9 on SGC... so not too far over the 20 mark....

ValKehl
06-28-2018, 08:17 PM
Ted & Brian, thanks for keeping this thread alive. I'll help with this E224-1 of WaJo:

Bicem
06-28-2018, 08:22 PM
Oh man, that TX Tommy!

bigfanNY
06-29-2018, 05:18 PM
Not enough Alexander here is my favorite.

Leon
06-30-2018, 04:30 PM
I think someone could retire comfortably on the value of the cards in this thread. Here is a Sporting Life something (probably ad cut) WaJo......

http://luckeycards.com/m116johnson.jpg

Solemany2k
06-30-2018, 07:20 PM
My favorite Mathewson in my collectionhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180701/74a8e897b80c7907ab19f66584cebbab.jpg

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ValKehl
07-01-2018, 08:42 PM
Both variations:

Rhotchkiss
07-01-2018, 09:17 PM
Val, are they from different years? Why would the same company put out two totally different backs?

ValKehl
07-02-2018, 10:20 AM
Ryan, as far as I know, both variations are from the same year, however, some cards in this set have been found with a 1927 copyright date. Cards have also been found with blank backs, and these are believed to have been cut from an advertising sheet. Not being a set collector, I don't know much about this set. Here are links to other info re this set, including past Net54 threads:

https://www.google.com/search?q=1926+sports+co.+of+america+site:www.net54 baseball.com&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYpOfb5oDcAhUSk1kKHWu7Bf0QrQIINigEMAE&biw=1920&bih=947

http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/sports-co/sports-co.asp?cardsetID=980

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/multi-sport/1926-spalding-champions/27575/

Leon
07-02-2018, 10:25 AM
As far as I know only Ruth has been found with a 1927 date on it. There are around 3-5 of those known. And one I used to own..

http://luckeycards.com/phunc1927sportscoamericaruth.jpg


Ryan, as far as I know, both variations are from the same year, however, some cards in this set have been found with a 1927 copyright date. Cards have also been found with blank backs, and these are believed to have been cut from an advertising sheet. Not being a set collector, I don't know much about this set. Here are links to other info re this set, including past Net54 threads:

https://www.google.com/search?q=1926+sports+co.+of+america+site:www.net54 baseball.com&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYpOfb5oDcAhUSk1kKHWu7Bf0QrQIINigEMAE&biw=1920&bih=947

http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/sports-co/sports-co.asp?cardsetID=980

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/multi-sport/1926-spalding-champions/27575/

ValKehl
07-02-2018, 03:13 PM
As far as I know only Ruth has been found with a 1927 date on it. There are around 3-5 of those known.

Leon, Jack Dempsey is known to exist with both 1926 and 1927 copyright dates, which leads me to suspect there might be others. See post #18 in this old Net54 thread for pics of both Dempsey cards: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=78580

BLongley
07-02-2018, 04:16 PM
Low pop on this Willard I just picked up.

Leon
07-05-2018, 02:10 PM
Ole Cy hasn't been seen for a week or two...

and thanks for the info, Val!!

http://luckeycards.com/pe901youngpsa2a2.jpg

tedzan
07-28-2018, 09:30 PM
Here is Matty as a pitcher-Manager (circa 1917)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/1917MattyCinciMgr.jpg

TED Z
T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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clydepepper
07-29-2018, 03:01 AM
Population 20 - minus 19!

Always proud to show this one off:

324182

jb217676
07-29-2018, 04:55 AM
Here's a few Alexander Postcards:

• 1918 RPPC of Grover Alexander in France as a sergeant with the 342nd Field Artillery during World War I
• 1920 RPPC Chicago Cubs Exhibition Game vs. Kerrigan Tailors. Includes Presidential Candidate Warren Harding & Grover Alexander
• C. 1930 Postcard of Grover Alexander playing for the House of David Baseball Club

ejharrington
08-01-2018, 01:53 PM
Cy playing with the local team right after retiring.
I love that postcard!

therajah
08-01-2018, 01:59 PM
324487

BLongley
08-01-2018, 02:24 PM
But guess I should add it here too....

PSA/SGC combined is 19... but if you separate blank back vs score card back the pop will be lower...

Bicem
08-02-2018, 06:08 AM
Great Matty Brian! Have always liked that shot of him.

ValKehl
08-22-2019, 11:00 AM
Resurrecting this thread, one of my all-time favorites, with an acquisition from earlier this year:

sb1
08-22-2019, 11:14 AM
This might qualify...

packs
08-22-2019, 11:31 AM
Don't think you'll find an earlier Walter Johnson autograph than this one from 1908:

https://live.staticflickr.com/869/41261484091_d541290742_b.jpg

CuriousGeorge
08-22-2019, 12:18 PM
Don’t think I’ve posted these but they fit the bill.

Vintageclout
08-22-2019, 12:38 PM
Don’t think I’ve posted these but they fit the bill.

Incredible Matty!!! I owned that same SGC 4 for a little less than a year and only sold it to buy some incredible Ruth cards. I replaced that Matty with a PSA 4 W600 Street Clothes Type 2 Matty rookie that was released January 1903, actually predating the E107 by about 5/6 months. Enjoy the Young & Matty...they are both world class cards!!!!

Sincerely,
Joe

t206kid
08-22-2019, 12:47 PM
Pop 3 https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48601534232_c0b26a074b_o.jpg

t206kid
08-22-2019, 12:50 PM
Or all of them together

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48601548467_81e144d0d4_o.jpg

CuriousGeorge
08-22-2019, 01:01 PM
Joe, thanks much and thanks for selling it. Keep me in mind if you get tired of the W600 Matty.

Jay, in awe of that collection. I can only begin to imagine the time and effort that must take.

Hankphenom
08-22-2019, 01:48 PM
Or all of them together


Holy shit!

Hankphenom
08-22-2019, 01:49 PM
Don't think you'll find an earlier Walter Johnson autograph than this one from 1908:


Fabulous WaJo artifact. At one time, I owned two out of the three he sent back home to his friend Johnny. Mostly about the weather!

DerekMichael
08-22-2019, 01:59 PM
Here are a few pretty difficult combos for Matty, Cy and the Big Train. They Young in particular is one I have seen very few of over the years.

Jay, that Johnson portrait with an Old Mill back ... wow! That is a combination that is notoriously difficult to find and yours is very lovely. Congrats!

Awesome cards everyone. Thank you for sharing!

Derek

mechanicalman
08-22-2019, 02:12 PM
Or all of them together

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48601548467_81e144d0d4_o.jpg

Jay, I'm sure I can look this up, but it's easier to ask you - is that the complete run?

Awesome either way.

t206kid
08-22-2019, 02:30 PM
Thanks all for the kind words. Yes that is all of the possible combinations. As Derek mentioned the Old Mill is by far the toughest.

Steven, that’s quite a compliment coming from you - with all the heat you’ve been posting lately. Took about 16 months from the start of the project when I had 2, to completion last month when I found the Old Mill. I have 14/19 on pitching, but there are a few roadblocks there :)

t206kid
08-22-2019, 02:32 PM
I’m close on the Young Portrait as well. But this is a MUCH easier run to complete.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48602057261_0fce66ae87_o.jpg

ValKehl
08-22-2019, 02:59 PM
Jay, you back runs are simply mesmerizing! Looking forward to seeing your WaJo pitching-pose back run, even though not complete - 14/19 ain't too shabby!

CuriousGeorge
08-22-2019, 04:00 PM
That’s 16 months of patience I can’t seem to find. I start on a path...and then another...and then something else and before I know it I have a mishmash of a little bit of everything. When it all comes together like yours it’s pretty damn nice though. Congrats on it!

Thanks all for the kind words. Yes that is all of the possible combinations. As Derek mentioned the Old Mill is by far the toughest.

Steven, that’s quite a compliment coming from you - with all the heat you’ve been posting lately. Took about 16 months from the start of the project when I had 2, to completion last month when I found the Old Mill. I have 14/19 on pitching, but there are a few roadblocks there :)

68Hawk
08-22-2019, 04:10 PM
Just to add a little more color....

I think just 6 or so combined PSA/SGC for this W-UNC
https://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/flinchfree/sports%20cards%20and%20memorabilia/1910%20W-UNC%20Mathewson_zpseua4qpms.jpg

And only 5 or so of the Turkey red ad version on the SGC report, don't think PSA grades these...
https://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/flinchfree/sports%20cards%20and%20memorabilia/1911%20S74%20Cy%20Young%20SGC%2040_zpsth5f5xjz.jpg

Rhotchkiss
08-22-2019, 05:59 PM
whoops. I posted Cobbs. Edited to remove them. My bad.

Still Love this thread!

DeanH3
08-22-2019, 06:51 PM
Nice stuff guys. That T206 WaJo and Cy runs are really cool. Nice job Jay!

t206kid
08-22-2019, 07:39 PM
Pitching! Underrated card imo

t206kid
08-22-2019, 07:50 PM
That’s 16 months of patience I can’t seem to find. I start on a path...and then another...and then something else and before I know it I have a mishmash of a little bit of everything. When it all comes together like yours it’s pretty damn nice though. Congrats on it!

It's definitely not a straight path for me. This was just the run I knew I was working on in the back of my head.

I think green Cobb up next!

CuriousGeorge
08-22-2019, 08:33 PM
Jay, let me help you with a couple of holes on that WaJo pitching run of yours. You’re a lot closer to finishing than I’ll ever be.

Pitching! Underrated card imo

Santo10Fan
08-23-2019, 01:00 AM
Jake Arrieta had a historic 2016 World Series, but Mordecai Brown is still the most important pitcher in Cubs history. https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/brown-mordecai

packs
08-23-2019, 07:05 AM
Not sure how many of these are out there. He had 5 years to sign them:

https://live.staticflickr.com/4372/36137697853_483a070d05_z.jpg

Vintageclout
08-23-2019, 07:46 PM
SGC 1.5 1914 Texas Tommy Mathewson - Type 1

Rhotchkiss
08-23-2019, 08:09 PM
Average card Joe :p

Vintageclout
08-23-2019, 08:12 PM
Average card Joe :p

Hi Ryan.....if you find another one, I will agree with your assessment! LOL!

Vintageclout
08-23-2019, 08:24 PM
Here’s my favorite Matty....W600 Type 2 Street Clothes true rookie card. Issued in January 1903.

rats60
08-23-2019, 09:57 PM
This one may have a few more than 20, but this thread needs more Alexander cards.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48609597893_4f7cb64eb2_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2h4sTVp)

Alexcards
08-25-2019, 12:39 PM
Just picked this up in the LOTG auction last night... I was very excited this morning to see that I had actually won!! Yay!

Leon
08-26-2019, 12:53 PM
Just in from REA.
Might as well add another Walter M101-6. I love damage on blank backs on otherwise great looking cards.

http://luckeycards.com/walter1.jpg

MVSNYC
08-28-2019, 06:45 AM
Great cards, guys!

Here's a companion for my Cy Young Hindu posted earlier in the thread...