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btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 12:33 PM
No cheating. Try this one off the top of your head.
In the history of major league baseball, what player has the most career at bats without ever having a single season with an OPS+ of 100 or greater?
Hint: Not a HOFer
Bonus: Who is second all time (not a pre-war player and also not a HOFer)
packs
05-23-2018, 12:37 PM
Probably Bill Bergen. He was terrible with a bat in his hands.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 01:39 PM
Not enough AB's
martingale
05-23-2018, 01:46 PM
mark belanger?
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 01:50 PM
mark belanger?
The player in question is pre-war. And believe it or not, Belanger isn't in the top 5!!
Also Belanger somehow managed to have a year with an OPS+ of 100. Don't ask me how.
#5 on the list had over 7,300 AB's...just as a frame of reference Belanger had 5,784 AB's.
Looking for #1 and a bonus of #2.
darwinbulldog
05-23-2018, 02:07 PM
Well I looked it up, so I'm not going to post the answer, or what I'm pretty sure is the answer, except to say that I could have sat here all day and tried naming every prewar player I could think of and probably wouldn't have thought of this guy.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 02:10 PM
Well I looked it up, so I'm not going to post the answer, or what I'm pretty sure is the answer, except to say that I could have sat here all day and tried naming every prewar player I could think of and probably wouldn't have thought of this guy.
Can you believe he had that many at bats???
darwinbulldog
05-23-2018, 02:16 PM
Probably about twice as many as I would have guessed.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 02:23 PM
He appears on the "similarity score" top 10 with #2 on the list. Probably not surprising though they played 70+ years apart.
Peter_Spaeth
05-23-2018, 02:25 PM
Maranville? Oh wait you said not HOFer NM.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 02:30 PM
Maranville? Oh wait you said not HOFer NM.
Maranville had enough ABs but had three years of 100+ OPS+.
#3 on the list is a HOFer though...
Peter_Spaeth
05-23-2018, 03:05 PM
For post-war, another light hitting SS like Eddie Brinkman? He played quite a while and no way he had a high OPS season.
clydepepper
05-23-2018, 03:17 PM
I'm presuming single seasons means single, full seasons, right?
Peter_Spaeth
05-23-2018, 03:18 PM
Maranville had enough ABs but had three years of 100+ OPS+.
#3 on the list is a HOFer though...
Aparicio or Mazeroski for that one?
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:21 PM
For post-war, another light hitting SS like Eddie Brinkman? He played quite a while and no way he had a high OPS season.
Not enough at bats
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:21 PM
I'm presuming single seasons means single, full seasons, right?
Actually that qualifier doesn't even matter in this case
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:25 PM
Aparicio or Mazeroski for that one?
Maz is #3. Aparicio had a 100.
#1 and #2 both had more at bats than Maz did.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:27 PM
#1 has a high season of 93 OPS+. No other seasons of even 90. Haven't heard that he was some defensive genius either, so no idea why he got so many plate appearances.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:30 PM
#1 was in several of the top "tweener" pre WW1 sets.
Peter_Spaeth
05-23-2018, 03:32 PM
Oh I forgot the ultimate light hitting SS, Larry Bowa. Him?
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:37 PM
Oh I forgot the ultimate light hitting SS, Larry Bowa. Him?
That's #2
Peter_Spaeth
05-23-2018, 03:38 PM
No clue on 1.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 03:44 PM
No clue on 1.
He was in all three of the top pre-World War 1 tweener sets
Tom Hufford
05-23-2018, 04:13 PM
Tommy Thevenow? He only hit two HRs in the majors, and they came in the same week.
btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 04:22 PM
Tommy Thevenow? He only hit two HRs in the majors, and they came in the same week.
He meets the OPS+ category but has less than half the career at bats of #1 on the list. Also note my hint above regarding #1 being in the three major tweener pre WW1 sets.
FourStrikes
05-23-2018, 06:29 PM
the ears don't match. :D
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btcarfagno
05-23-2018, 07:23 PM
His rookie year he was a teammate of three Hall Of Fame players.
His final year he was a teammate of three Hall Of Fame players.
frankbmd
05-24-2018, 01:44 AM
OPS+ did not exist when this dude played.
No doubt I will be the answer to some trivia question based on a contrived statistic developed after my demise.:eek:
btcarfagno
05-24-2018, 05:28 AM
OPS+ did not exist when this dude played.
No doubt I will be the answer to some trivia question based on a contrived statistic developed after my demise.:eek:
As will we all Frank.
And if the baseline average is 100, I'm sure I will be much like this guy.....a career 83 mark and people questioning why I got so many times at the plate.
buymycards
05-24-2018, 06:05 AM
What in the hell is a tweener?
frankbmd
05-24-2018, 06:28 AM
What in the hell is a tweener?
I don’t know, but if I had one, I would reach for my tweezers.
Peter_Spaeth
05-24-2018, 06:34 AM
OPS+ did not exist when this dude played.
No doubt I will be the answer to some trivia question based on a contrived statistic developed after my demise.:eek:
Most failed attempts at humor?
:eek:
btcarfagno
05-24-2018, 07:37 AM
What in the hell is a tweener?
The 20 year gap between the "big two" pre WW1 sets...N172 and T206...
He was in all three of the most collected sets from those years.
btcarfagno
05-24-2018, 07:40 AM
Most failed attempts at humor?
:eek:
https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcoUeohKhIesT5K/giphy.gif
frankbmd
05-24-2018, 07:59 AM
Most failed attempts at humor?
:eek:
Cy Young also led the league in wins.:D
Peter_Spaeth
05-24-2018, 08:01 AM
Cy Young also led the league in wins.:D
+1
Another one added to your total, that is. :cool:
btcarfagno
05-24-2018, 09:56 AM
At different points of his career, the player in question was a teammate of both of the greatest deaf players of the era.
btcarfagno
05-25-2018, 05:13 AM
Trivia answer:
Tommy Corcoran