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iowadoc77
04-09-2018, 01:00 PM
I want to see a preview! I saw a facebook post and some of the cards i saw were pretty amazing! Looking forward to seeing them! Anyone else? The suspense is killing me :D

ValKehl
04-09-2018, 04:07 PM
Eric, those of us who attended the Chantilly Show this past weekend got to see some of the eye candy in REA's showcases. NICE!

T206Collector
04-09-2018, 04:34 PM
276 views so far, 275 of which were assuming this was a link to the live auction.

Like shouting fire in a crowded cinema...

Like the boy who called wolf...

ruth-gehrig
04-09-2018, 06:00 PM
Card collectors are going to drool all over

iowadoc77
04-09-2018, 08:06 PM
276 views so far, 275 of which were assuming this was a link to the live auction.

Like shouting fire in a crowded cinema...

Like the boy who called wolf...

My apologies. Not my intention at all.

brianp-beme
04-09-2018, 09:12 PM
I know it got me all hot and bothered.

Brian

mantleman
04-10-2018, 06:31 PM
276 views so far, 275 of which were assuming this was a link to the live auction.

Like shouting fire in a crowded cinema...

Like the boy who called wolf...

lol..........I was view 1,073 and that's what I was hoping for!

edjs
04-12-2018, 09:34 AM
Are they really going to open an auction on Friday the 13th? Ooooh, spooky, everything anyone buys will come cursed, lol! :eek:

darwinbulldog
04-12-2018, 09:48 AM
Are they really going to open an auction on Friday the 13th? Ooooh, spooky, everything anyone buys will come cursed, lol! :eek:

That's absolutely true. Please spread the word as quickly and widely as possible.

PiratesWS1979
04-12-2018, 08:49 PM
Are they really going to open an auction on Friday the 13th? Ooooh, spooky, everything anyone buys will come cursed, lol! :eek:

Well then I'll post a list of the cards I'm interested in so nobody bids. I have a lot of demons already so a few more won't matter.

MR RAREBACK
04-12-2018, 09:14 PM
Nobody bid on t206 ty cobbs or rare backs please:)

Sterling Sports Auctions
04-12-2018, 09:16 PM
I thought the Title of the thread was Real !!! Real !!! Real !!!

I thought he took a gamble on a questionable card and it came back Real!!!

Guess I was wrong. :-(

Lee Behrens

RedsFan1941
04-12-2018, 09:43 PM
I thought the Title of the thread was Real !!! Real !!! Real !!!

I thought he took a gamble on a questionable card and it came back Real!!!

Guess I was wrong. :-(

Lee Behrens

i thought the same thing

mechanicalman
04-12-2018, 10:09 PM
Nobody bid on t206 ty cobbs or rare backs please:)

Funny. Comments like these make me want to bid stronger.

Republicaninmass
04-13-2018, 04:38 AM
Funny. Comments like these make me want to bid stronger.


Also brings out panic selling before the auctions opens :eek:

iowadoc77
04-13-2018, 04:46 AM
It’s Friday the 13th I believe...:D

Republicaninmass
04-13-2018, 04:58 AM
It’s Friday the 13th I believe...:D

I'm fearing my computer will crash if I go to REA's website

wondo
04-13-2018, 04:59 AM
Not open yet - I'll be sure to check every five minutes!

iowadoc77
04-13-2018, 05:59 AM
Not open yet - I'll be sure to check every five minutes!

You and many others.
Looks a little like this...
1) is it up yet? Is it up yet?
2)Oh crap, it’s up.
3)frantically place 125 bids
4)within 10 minutes after placing 125 bids, receive 124 outbid notices
5)feel preemptive buyers remorse for the one bid that is holding
6)wait for next fall for next auction
7)tell everyone that nothing they had fit what you were looking for.

timzcardz
04-13-2018, 06:07 AM
You and many others.
Looks a little like this...
1) is it up yet? Is it up yet?
2)Oh crap, it’s up.
3)frantically place 125 bids
4)within 10 minutes after placing 125 bids, receive 124 outbid notices
5)feel preemptive buyers remorse for the one bid that is holding
6)wait for next fall for next auction
7)tell everyone that nothing they had fit what you were looking for.

Now that right there is funny.

true, but funny!

PiratesWS1979
04-13-2018, 06:18 AM
Not open yet - I'll be sure to check every five minutes!

I'll be refreshing REA more than my PSA account when hoping a sub pops!

cmoore330
04-13-2018, 06:49 AM
Not open yet - I'll be sure to check every five minutes!

The fall auction began at 2 pm Eastern, so you could be refreshing a lot!

iowadoc77
04-13-2018, 07:43 AM
The fall auction began at 2 pm Eastern, so you could be refreshing a lot!

What’s the legal limit for page refreshes in one day?

vintagerookies51
04-13-2018, 07:59 AM
Anybody know what time it opens? It's been too long

packs
04-13-2018, 08:24 AM
Is there a preview?

btcarfagno
04-13-2018, 08:37 AM
Is there a preview?

Someone on net54 posted a link to the catalog about 5 days ago but they took it down within about 20 minutes. I was able to take a quick gander before it disappeared.

tazdmb
04-13-2018, 08:51 AM
Someone on net54 posted a link to the catalog about 5 days ago but they took it down within about 20 minutes. I was able to take a quick gander before it disappeared.

That would be me, found it last Friday but was taken down quickly. I haven't seen the backdoor link put back up since. I remember I found the link early last fall as well. Oh well, it will be up soon enough.

Leon
04-13-2018, 08:58 AM
I just got a banner update request. It'll open soon! ..My guess is around 12pm EST....

Sean
04-13-2018, 09:33 AM
Not open yet. :(

packs
04-13-2018, 09:42 AM
Haha I was just kidding about the preview guys.

h2oya311
04-13-2018, 10:00 AM
It's HERE!!!! And there's already a bid on lot #1!

ullmandds
04-13-2018, 10:07 AM
you must have connections...not open yet here in mn?

PiratesWS1979
04-13-2018, 10:11 AM
you must have connections...not open yet here in mn?

Use the 2nd "BROWSE" drop box and HAPPY VIEWING!!!!

ullmandds
04-13-2018, 10:13 AM
Use the 2nd "BROWSE" drop box and HAPPY VIEWING!!!!

not sure what that means...but I still can't see it?

PiratesWS1979
04-13-2018, 10:16 AM
not sure what that means...but I still can't see it?

I used the 2nd "BROWSE" drop down on the left where you can search past auctions. For me, it's right on top.

ullmandds
04-13-2018, 10:18 AM
i appreciate you trying to help...i guess i'll have to wait.

x2drich2000
04-13-2018, 10:24 AM
Pete, go into the auction from last year. On the left hand side, Below the search function is Browse. Under that they have where you can search by "All Auctions" or each individual auction they have had for the last 15 years. Just choose "REA Spring 2018" and hit "Go!" on the search.

DJ

iowadoc77
04-13-2018, 10:43 AM
probably placed 40 bids as place holders. By tomorrow, I am fully confident that i will be high bidder on no more than 2. What an incredible auction!

pawpawdiv9
04-13-2018, 10:48 AM
FLOOR DROPPING!!!!
I wish I had a boat load of $$$$$$.
Just went thru the whole thing, only place bids on 2 lots, but definitely would done 40+.
I was outbid on an item, before I clicked submit bid. LOL!!!!

scooter729
04-13-2018, 11:21 AM
I appreciate the smaller bid increments as well - bids over $500 used to jump by $100, but now just go by $50. I've asked for this before - there were times on smaller lots where I would've gone up by another $50 but not $100, so this is a welcome thing!

OK, back to drooling and gawking at the auction!!

PiratesWS1979
04-13-2018, 11:28 AM
I really wish they had a bulk bid/delete like Heritage.

hcv123
04-13-2018, 11:29 AM
You and many others.
Looks a little like this...
1) is it up yet? Is it up yet?
2)Oh crap, it’s up.
3)frantically place 125 bids
4)within 10 minutes after placing 125 bids, receive 124 outbid notices
5)feel preemptive buyers remorse for the one bid that is holding
6)wait for next fall for next auction
7)tell everyone that nothing they had fit what you were looking for.

I was with you up to #5!! Up to almost 3k views!! I thought it was a link or commentary on lots that had been reviewed. Fasten your seat belts, I get the feeling this is going to be some auction! Now where was that winning lottery ticket...........

kailes2872
04-13-2018, 11:32 AM
FLOOR DROPPING!!!!
I wish I had a boat load of $$$$$$.
Just went thru the whole thing, only place bids on 2 lots, but definitely would done 40+.
I was outbid on an item, before I clicked submit bid. LOL!!!!

I placed bids on 27 items. I have been outbid on 2 so far - top bidder on 25 worth $19,400. If I win all 25, I have some 'splainin to do to Mrs. Ailes - but if I do win the 25, I will get some great deals!!

x2drich2000
04-13-2018, 11:33 AM
I really wish they had a bulk bid/delete like Heritage.

I wish all auction houses would have that feature!

Leon
04-13-2018, 12:38 PM
I placed bids on 27 items. I have been outbid on 2 so far - top bidder on 25 worth $19,400. If I win all 25, I have some 'splainin to do to Mrs. Ailes - but if I do win the 25, I will get some great deals!!

Between 0 and I bid will hold up, most likely the former.

MattyC
04-13-2018, 12:53 PM
Whoever I am tangling with on the Mick Dice and a few other lots will get a reprieve until this evening— gotta finally get to work.

pgconboy
04-13-2018, 01:12 PM
So many amazing cards for auction, most are far beyond my range due to condition. This is the first one I've signed up for. Keeping an eye out to pick up an old Cobb, Cy, Collins, WJ, Speaker or Wagner.

Jewish-collector
04-13-2018, 01:23 PM
The REA auction is exactly what Tom Cruise would say, "Sometimes you gotta say WTF and go for it"

hcv123
04-13-2018, 01:25 PM
Whoever I am tangling with on the Mick Dice and a few other lots will get a reprieve until this evening— gotta finally get to work.

Well,

While there is A LOT in the auction - there is also A LOT missing (most notably Kahn's Sets, and some Topps test issues) from their blog post - a little disappointing to have to wait for that stuff! That said, I lost count of the bids I placed.For sure the most initial bids I've placed in any auction so far.

Matty - I suspect that Mantle dice is going to go crazy!! I know a couple of big time collectors with very deep pockets that will likely be going after it. Placed a bid on it just for kicks :) Good luck to all!

Howard

Peter_Spaeth
04-13-2018, 01:36 PM
I almost never win anything in REA. And I bid strong. I do much better in Heritage.

sflayank
04-13-2018, 01:53 PM
Kahns sets and test issues
And bazookas are in next auction
There are 4 dice games a cloth sticker a 55 stamp 66 punchouts? 3d sheet..3d brooks....and lots of other stuff
Glendales..stahls felin franks
Come on guys....truth in advertising
You know the stuff is out of south florida
I think howard is just looking for my harmony milk clemente

hcv123
04-13-2018, 02:09 PM
Kahns sets and test issues
And bazookas are in next auction
There are 4 dice games a cloth sticker a 55 stamp 66 punchouts? 3d sheet..3d brooks....and lots of other stuff
Glendales..stahls felin franks
Come on guys....truth in advertising
You know the stuff is out of south florida
I think howard is just looking for my harmony milk clemente

1 - I didn't know you had one, but certainly would be looking for your Harmony Milk Clemente.
2 - Fortunately for my wallet, I am not into most of the super rare hot dog cards in the current auction. As for "the rest".......well, as I said in my last post - I placed more initial bids in this auction than I have ever placed in any auction I've bid in.
Wishing you all the best with the sale Larry!

pawpawdiv9
04-13-2018, 02:09 PM
Whoever I am tangling with on the Mick Dice and a few other lots will get a reprieve until this evening— gotta finally get to work.

Sorry MattyC, Its like ice-cream, when your tempted, your gonna lick it.:p

Peter_Spaeth
04-13-2018, 02:16 PM
I genuinely don't understand the reason for multiple early bids/battles on a lot. Unless you have a very good idea where a lot will go and want to lock up a bid level because it's going to get there anyhow, which makes some sense to me. But "tangling" with someone on opening day -- why?

Stonepony
04-13-2018, 02:20 PM
I genuinely don't understand the reason for multiple early bids/battles on a lot. Unless you have a very good idea where a lot will go and want to lock up a bid level because it's going to get there anyhow, which makes some sense to me. But "tangling" with someone on opening day -- why?

I was thinking the same thing. Get my bids in and save the push for the final night. Instantly being outbid on day 1 is the norm, I'll pick my battles on the 6th.

Peter_Spaeth
04-13-2018, 02:25 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Get my bids in and save the push for the final night. Instantly being outbid on day 1 is the norm, I'll pick my battles on the 6th.

Right. Who cares if you aren't ahead?

calvindog
04-13-2018, 03:03 PM
Right. Who cares if you aren't ahead?

Now you know why you never win anything in REA.

Sean
04-13-2018, 03:54 PM
Now you know why you never win anything in REA.

I don't necessarily agree, but this is funny. :D

Peter_Spaeth
04-13-2018, 04:06 PM
I don't necessarily agree, but this is funny. :D

I just don't understand the pissing contest right out of the block. How is that calculated to help you (not you Sean, just in general) win at the best price?

calvindog
04-13-2018, 04:11 PM
I just don't understand the pissing contest right out of the block. How is that calculated to help you (not you Sean, just in general) win at the best price?

I understand it in theory: getting the price up quickly to discourage people from bothering to bid. Also, perhaps to put a max bid in first at the price the card is worth I suppose. For me, I put in placeholders just so I don't forget. I don't even go back to REA until the auction is well into extended bidding. If the cards I'm after are still within a range I'm willing to pay, I bid; if not, I don't.

Peter_Spaeth
04-13-2018, 04:15 PM
As I said, I get the max bid, if the price is fairly predictable, you want to lock up a bid level and make someone really overpay to beat you (which in my case they doubtless will anyhow). I don't see how driving up the price early is going to scare someone who really wants the card off it. It's just going to make it more expensive.

PiratesWS1979
04-13-2018, 05:01 PM
You know what annoys me about REA? All these barn outbid notices...SO STOP BIDDING!! :rolleyes:

Sean
04-13-2018, 05:06 PM
I understand it in theory: getting the price up quickly to discourage people from bothering to bid. Also, perhaps to put a max bid in first at the price the card is worth I suppose. For me, I put in placeholders just so I don't forget. I don't even go back to REA until the auction is well into extended bidding. If the cards I'm after are still within a range I'm willing to pay, I bid; if not, I don't.

This is what I do as well. I've been outbid on half of my bids so far, but none of it matters until about midnight May 6th. :)

RedsFan1941
04-13-2018, 05:08 PM
Anyone received their catalog?. :rolleyes:

njdunkin1
04-13-2018, 05:42 PM
Had a coding issue with my account; I emailed REA and Brian responded literally within minutes. Fantastic customer service. I look forward to winning a few T206s (and perhaps my first e90-1) in May!!

NJ Dunkin

barrysloate
04-13-2018, 05:54 PM
Some people leave high ceilings on the first day, so when others come in to qualify, two bids kick in. That creates the illusion of very heavy demand. Generally speaking, people who open with high ceilings can remain high bidder for virtually the entire auction, right up until the last half hour, when they then lose it. From my experience, not a winning strategy.

sycks22
04-13-2018, 05:59 PM
Another terrific offering. I got my 200 bids in.

FourStrikes
04-13-2018, 06:08 PM
Nobody bid on t206 ty cobbs or rare backs please:)


Cobbs suck! bid no mo'!




.

calvindog
04-13-2018, 06:35 PM
Anyone received their catalog?. :rolleyes:

I got mine today.

Peter_Spaeth
04-13-2018, 07:48 PM
I didn't get mine yet and will be sure to report back every day if everyone else here agrees to do the same. :eek:

Rhotchkiss
04-13-2018, 08:01 PM
I understand it in theory: getting the price up quickly to discourage people from bothering to bid. Also, perhaps to put a max bid in first at the price the card is worth I suppose. For me, I put in placeholders just so I don't forget. I don't even go back to REA until the auction is well into extended bidding. If the cards I'm after are still within a range I'm willing to pay, I bid; if not, I don't.

There are several reasons I will “tangle” day 1 - First, as Jeff suggested, if it’s something I really want, I put in a large max bid so that 50% of the bids getting there are mine, thus potentially limiting the number of competitors in extended bidding. Second, sometimes I want a certain spot, or want the last bid before a bid-increment cliff (like when bids go from $500 to $1000), so I put in my max bid to ensure I get that spot if it gets there. That said, I only do this with cards I really really want, otherwise I may have too many large bids on too many large items (large being a relative term)

mechanicalman
04-13-2018, 09:02 PM
Personally, I don’t put any credence into Day 1 bidding strategies. There are too many dudes with deep pockets going after the best cards. No one who really wants a blue chip is going to be “shut out” of the extended session because of aggressive early bidding, in my estimation.

mechanicalman
04-13-2018, 09:07 PM
Anyone received their catalog?. :rolleyes:

I’ve been able to access a digital version of sorts vis a vis an Internet website.

iowadoc77
04-14-2018, 04:41 AM
I’ve been able to access a digital version of sorts vis a vis an Internet website.

So have I. But oh, the catalog. The smell. The pictures. The empathy for the poor postal employee that delivered it. One of my favorite mail days of the year.

Sean
04-14-2018, 10:05 AM
Well, we're one day in and one of my bids is still holding up. :)

iowadoc77
04-14-2018, 10:11 AM
Well, we're one day in and one of my bids is still holding up. :)

That’s one better than most! Aggressive bidding out of the gates for sure!

edjs
04-14-2018, 10:25 AM
Well, we're one day in and one of my bids is still holding up. :)

I'm pretty much done. One item I might get back in on depending on how it goes from here, but I'm not holding too much hope. I was at this point a couple hours after it started. Oh well.

MR RAREBACK
04-14-2018, 10:37 AM
The best is when you way overpay for a card you want bad and it doubles in value after two years

edjs
04-14-2018, 11:03 AM
Anyone received their catalog?. :rolleyes:

When the catalogue arrives, I always think of Steve Martin in the movie The Jerk, "The new phone books are here! The new phone books are here!"

milkit1
04-14-2018, 11:13 AM
my Type 1 photo from the Fred Merkle replay game of 1908 is in it along with some other 1909 type 1's. My second time consigning with REA. Very exciting indeed!

PiratesWS1979
04-14-2018, 11:24 AM
When the catalogue arrives, I always think of Steve Martin in the movie The Jerk, "The new phone books are here! The new phone books are here!"

I know what you mean. A green Cobb is all I need...and this Babe Ruth. The green Cobb and the Babe Ruth, that's all I need!

After "needing" a few more things my family thinks I've gone nuts! :D

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 11:26 AM
I know what you mean. A green Cobb is all I need...and this Babe Ruth. The green Cobb and the Babe Ruth, that's all I need!

After "needing" a few more things my family thinks I've gone nuts! :D

Haha

pawpawdiv9
04-14-2018, 11:32 AM
Got my catalog today.
Thick & smells Great!!!

wilsonjc08
04-14-2018, 12:07 PM
The material in this auction is absolutely insane. Hoping to land a couple items.

vansaad
04-14-2018, 12:09 PM
Fantastic offerings. Can someone please lend me a $1 million? I promise my estate will pay it back as best it can after the cards I buy are liquidated after my death.

GregMitch34
04-14-2018, 12:17 PM
My first-ever consignment of more than one card--so bid hearty, me laddies.

barrysloate
04-14-2018, 12:30 PM
There are several reasons I will “tangle” day 1 - First, as Jeff suggested, if it’s something I really want, I put in a large max bid so that 50% of the bids getting there are mine, thus potentially limiting the number of competitors in extended bidding. Second, sometimes I want a certain spot, or want the last bid before a bid-increment cliff (like when bids go from $500 to $1000), so I put in my max bid to ensure I get that spot if it gets there. That said, I only do this with cards I really really want, otherwise I may have too many large bids on too many large items (large being a relative term)

With that strategy you will be able to limit the number of competitors. The problem is you will be limiting the wrong ones.

The guys you knock out probably weren't going to win the lot anyway. The ones who are likely to win it are still there. So you are only creating the illusion of less competition.

GaryPassamonte
04-14-2018, 12:37 PM
So true, Barry. It's much easier to place in the race than win it.

clydepepper
04-14-2018, 12:58 PM
My first-ever consignment of more than one card--so bid hearty, me laddies.



What do you have out there, Greg?

Andrew1975
04-14-2018, 01:01 PM
Catalog arrived today (Northern Virginia).

Rhotchkiss
04-14-2018, 01:21 PM
With that strategy you will be able to limit the number of competitors. The problem is you will be limiting the wrong ones.

The guys you knock out probably weren't going to win the lot anyway. The ones who are likely to win it are still there. So you are only creating the illusion of less competition.

You are probably right, as I end up the high bidder probably 50% of the time when all is said and done. End of the day, no matter how you play it, if you want the card, you need to be high bidder when it’s all said and done

h2oya311
04-14-2018, 02:09 PM
Got my catalog on Friday! Probably because of my large number of consignments - delivered via FedEx.

Very excited about one lot in particular...will be bidding strong on that one with “house money”.

Bid strong my friends. Bid strong! But not on the lot that I want!!

kailes2872
04-14-2018, 02:14 PM
Got my catalog today. With hopes of not offending, my wife calls it "card porn". I make jokes about having her draw a bath, pour a glass of wine and getting out the REA catalog in advance of a romantic evening!

barrysloate
04-14-2018, 02:25 PM
You are probably right, as I end up the high bidder probably 50% of the time when all is said and done. End of the day, no matter how you play it, if you want the card, you need to be high bidder when it’s all said and done

Yep, lot goes to the highest bidder. That's how it works.

Peter_Spaeth
04-14-2018, 02:26 PM
Yep, lot goes to the highest bidder. That's how it works.

That's good to know. :eek:

barrysloate
04-14-2018, 02:27 PM
That's good to know. :eek:

Took me a long time to figure it out.

ricktmd
04-14-2018, 02:47 PM
The serious bidders are aggressive on the last day or in extended bidding. As stated by others putting bids in on the first day on items of interest allows me to review the items I might go after depending on where the price is on the final day. Most importantly it allows me to bid during the extended period when the action becomes serious. I have never been one to put in top all bids other than on ebay snipes. Even on ebay it never feels good to put the highest price I would pay in the snipe software.

GregMitch34
04-14-2018, 03:12 PM
Note to Clydepepper since you asked: About 40 scattered lots. Major ones might be the Plank Sepia PC, one-of-a-kind Allegheny, Gem Mint WaJo WG5, top-graded Rose PC for Chance, rare Cy Young PC, Evers t206 Hindu, Matty t206 Cycle and PSA 5 Bernhard Hindu, Evers Newsboy, rare and wacky Hartnett Whiz Bang, PSA 4 Mayo fo Hugh Duffy, a nice Red Sun and so on.....

joshuanip
04-14-2018, 03:27 PM
I put a bid in every lot I was interested in. Not going to chase windmills until extended bidding....

I found that setting a high bid early only gives serious bidders a mental readiness to bid higher in a bidding war. The bidding war will come but better to have your competition less time to think about stretching his bid...

ValKehl
04-14-2018, 03:36 PM
Yep, lot goes to the highest bidder. That's how it works.

Now I'm beginning to understand why I never win anything! :D

My REA phone book arrived in the teeming metropolis of Manassas, VA, today.

Sean
04-14-2018, 03:54 PM
Just got my catalogue, post office delivered it. And I still have one high bid.

And now I will stop the updates on that one bid until May 7. :rolleyes:

Rhotchkiss
04-14-2018, 04:40 PM
Just got my catalogue, post office delivered it. And I still have one high bid.

And now I will stop the updates on that one bid until May 7. :rolleyes:

My catalog goes straight into the recycling bin.... I have been outbid on all 40+ lots I bid on (totally expected). I have not placed a max bid, only placeholders, and the next 20 days will be spent on deciding what 1-5 cards I really want to pursue. Because I blew my wad on a t206 plank last month, I won’t be a contender on any real big boy cards, but, IMO, the biggest superstar (and there are many) is the CJ Matty - I have seen and held it and it is awesome.

The May pickups thread should be fun...

Oh, and as an aside, now that REA is out, do we even care that Heritage is ending in 5 days...??!!

Peter_Spaeth
04-14-2018, 04:43 PM
My catalog goes straight into the recycling bin.... I have been outbid on all 40+ lots I bid on (totally expected). I have not placed a max bid, only placeholders, and the next 20 will be spent on deciding what 1-5 cards I really want to pursue. Because I blew my wad on a t206 plank last month, I won’t be a contender on any real big boy cards, but, IMO, the biggest superstar (and there are many) is the CJ Matty - I have seen and held it and it is awesome.

The May pickups thread should be fun...

Oh, and as an aside, now that REA is out, do we even care that Heritage is ending in 5 days...??!!

I don't know why REA auctions inspire these lengthy threads and Heritage -- IMO the clear industry leader now -- never does.

Bored5000
04-14-2018, 04:50 PM
I don't know why REA auctions inspire these lengthy threads and Heritage -- IMO the clear industry leader now -- never does.

IMO, because REA only runs twice a year.

Rhotchkiss
04-14-2018, 04:55 PM
I think they are both amazing. Between the two, however, I think REA has the edge on content and Heritage is superior on auction format (interface/auction website, per-lot extended bidding, allowing bids between increments, etc).

calvindog
04-14-2018, 05:04 PM
You are probably right, as I end up the high bidder probably 50% of the time when all is said and done. End of the day, no matter how you play it, if you want the card, you need to be high bidder when it’s all said and done

LOL painful truth. If you want the card enough, you'll do what you need to get it. And there's always some jerk out there willing to pay whatever it is to get it. Just hope he's not collecting the same things as you. Cough.

x2drich2000
04-14-2018, 05:05 PM
I don't think one bidding strategy is going to work best in all situations. I think your lake front property cards aren't worth trying to scare people from cause they will always be desirable and there are enough whales who want the best of the best. However, I firmly believe you certainly can discourage people from bidding on ghetto and flood zone cards where people will want to consider all better options before settling.

That said, I've placed over 100 bids in REA so far and only 1 lot have I placed a max bid (which I think is pretty obvious) and I'm still high on that one with plenty of room to increase more :cool:

calvindog
04-14-2018, 05:05 PM
PS big improvement on the REA site: you no longer have to click on an extra button to see thumbnails of the lots you bid on. That's actually a nice addition and much appreciated.

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 05:15 PM
I don't think one bidding strategy is going to work best in all situations. I think your lake front property cards aren't worth trying to scare people from cause they will always be desirable and there are enough whales who want the best of the best. However, I firmly believe you certainly can discourage people from bidding on ghetto and flood zone cards where people will want to consider all better options before settling.

That said, I've placed over 100 bids in REA so far and only 1 lot have I placed a max bid (which I think is pretty obvious) and I'm still high on that one with plenty of room to increase more :cool:

haha...flood zone cards!!!

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 05:38 PM
I don't know why REA auctions inspire these lengthy threads and Heritage -- IMO the clear industry leader now -- never does.

REA is REA...but Heritage's current auction has a tremendous marquis in the mantle and is a much more interesting auction for me.

The Nadjas, the E98's, lots of caramels, sporting life cobb, plowboys, oj's, m101-6 ruth, nice cj's...nm7 ruth rookie...amazing stuff.

That sf hess Welch is sick!

x2drich2000
04-14-2018, 05:45 PM
The Nadjas, the E98's, lots of caramels, sporting life cobb, plowboys, oj's, m101-6 ruth, nice cj's...nm7 ruth rookie...amazing stuff.

Peter, you need to learn when to close your mouth :p you know I'm just playing around and I 100% agree with you. Actually, I find the current REA auction a bit blah, especially by REA standards.

Peter_Spaeth
04-14-2018, 05:50 PM
Peter, you need to learn when to close your mouth :p you know I'm just playing around and I 100% agree with you. Actually, I find the current REA auction a bit blah, especially by REA standards.

The post war selection in Heritage is incredible too.

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 05:51 PM
The post war selection in Heritage is incredible too.

Ya...I hadn't got there yet when I posted!!! Those mantles...a psa 9 51 bowman to go with the topps.

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 05:53 PM
Peter, you need to learn when to close your mouth :p you know I'm just playing around and I 100% agree with you. Actually, I find the current REA auction a bit blah, especially by REA standards.

ya...i thought of you when I saw those...it's like xmas/hanukkah/Kwanzaa for you i bet!:D

Fred
04-14-2018, 05:55 PM
I wonder how many catalogs were shipped.... wow, they go through great expense to lay it out, print it and ship it. Now for an update:

It was Professor Plum in the Conservatory with the REA Catalog....:eek:

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 06:02 PM
Epic blizzard here in st paul...may go til monday! Nothing to do but drool over cards!

Fred that's funny!

mechanicalman
04-14-2018, 07:07 PM
The post war selection in Heritage is incredible too.

Heritage has much bigger cards, for sure, but I think there’s a purity about REA that many collectors appreciate.

ullmandds
04-14-2018, 07:35 PM
Heritage has much bigger cards, for sure, but I think there’s a purity about REA that many collectors appreciate.

A “purity???”

Leon
04-14-2018, 07:35 PM
LOL painful truth. If you want the card enough, you'll do what you need to get it. And there's always some jerk out there willing to pay whatever it is to get it. Just hope he's not collecting the same things as you. Cough.

Sometimes it is good to let something go.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=184055&highlight=w555

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tennisguy
04-14-2018, 07:47 PM
REA always has a great vintage spread! I might sit this one out though.

mechanicalman
04-14-2018, 08:22 PM
A “purity???”

Pete, you’re on the board enough. I don’t believe I need to explain the comment to you. But the headline is I think a lot of collectors appreciate the way Brian and team do business. They set the standard.

Neal
04-14-2018, 08:49 PM
Brian and crew are the best. No doubt.

Rhotchkiss
04-14-2018, 09:05 PM
Brian and crew are the best. No doubt.

100% agree

iowadoc77
04-15-2018, 05:28 AM
REA has always been the auction we talk the most about. It is the catalog I most look forward to and spend the most time with. It feels more exclusive since they only do 2 auctions a year. I have bought from Heritage and REA regularly and both are certainly top of the list, but it isn’t quite as worthy of a lengthy thread when Heritage puts out several big auctions each year.
Both have great stuff and it is difficult to truly compare them. Both also have terrific customer service in my opinion.
REA catalog is iconic. It’s like Christmas when it arrives. And delivery people everywhere flood their chiropractor offices after delivery.
I enjoy both auction houses but twice a year we get to see REA’s catalog and have a few threads like this. Good stuff.

mechanicalman
04-15-2018, 06:42 AM
REA has always been the auction we talk the most about. It is the catalog I most look forward to and spend the most time with. It feels more exclusive since they only do 2 auctions a year. I have bought from Heritage and REA regularly and both are certainly top of the list, but it isn’t quite as worthy of a lengthy thread when Heritage puts out several big auctions each year.
Both have great stuff and it is difficult to truly compare them. Both also have terrific customer service in my opinion.
REA catalog is iconic. It’s like Christmas when it arrives. And delivery people everywhere flood their chiropractor offices after delivery.
I enjoy both auction houses but twice a year we get to see REA’s catalog and have a few threads like this. Good stuff.

Very well said.

Stonepony
04-15-2018, 06:50 AM
They're both fantastic of course. I'd have to compare their current auctions relevance to me by the number of placer bids. I have about 8 in Heritage and 25 in REA. I don't place bids on cards I want badly but could never afford. ( except that Mantle Dice game:D)

Snapolit1
04-15-2018, 07:29 AM
The difference for me with REA and other auctions is that they come up with items that Ive been looking for years and have not seen anywhere for sale or auction. There are 2 such cards in the current auction. One of which I’ve never seen once elsewhere. While Heritage has a lot of quality items over the course of a year, I don’t see the obscure items as much.

CharleyBrown
04-15-2018, 10:08 AM
A lot of rarities in this auction. Is one of the Serota brothers selling their collection?

sflayank
04-15-2018, 10:12 AM
its only the beginning
october might even be better:)

bobfreedman
04-15-2018, 11:20 AM
I feel like REA is for collectors and heritage is for investors. I know that’s an oversimplification but just my two cents

iowadoc77
04-15-2018, 11:27 AM
I feel like REA is for collectors and heritage is for investors. I know that’s an oversimplification but just my two cents

Interesting. I can certainly see that point.

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 11:29 AM
Interesting. I can certainly see that point.

I can't at all.

Bored5000
04-15-2018, 11:57 AM
Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out why a huge rarity is a $6,000 card and why a different huge rarity is a $60,000 card. I know that the Stanky, Konstanty and Roberts cards from the 1951 Topps All-Stars are legendary rarities, but I didn't realize that the Roberts card was a $62,000 card when the last example sold. The current Roberts card at REA is sitting at $48K with the buyer's premium.

I guess it just surprises me that the Roberts card sells for 10 times that of a huge Phillies rarity of the same era like a Lummis Peanut Butter Richie Ashburn card. Of course, it could be the aesthetics of the Topps All-Stars card that makes it a $60,000 item. ;)

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=48918

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2015/fall/1319/1949-lummis-peanut-butter-phillies-richie-ashburn-sgc/

Snapolit1
04-15-2018, 12:06 PM
Explain to me how some dog eared 1951 cut out card sells for multiples of a 1920s Ruth Champions Exhibits card that is stunning and seldom seen. But there are so many examples one could come up with. I guess it's the vagaries of collecting.



Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out why a huge rarity is a $6,000 card and why a different huge rarity is a $60,000 card. I know that the Stanky, Konstanty and Roberts cards from the 1951 Topps All-Stars are legendary rarities, but I didn't realize that the Roberts card was a $62,000 card when the last example sold. The current Roberts card at REA is sitting at $50K with the buyer's premium.

I guess it just surprises me that the Roberts card sells for 10 times that of a huge Phillies rarity of the same era like a Lummis Peanut Butter Richie Ashburn card. Of course, it could be the aesthetics of the Topps All-Stars card that makes it a $60,000 item. ;)

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=48918

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2015/fall/1319/1949-lummis-peanut-butter-phillies-richie-ashburn-sgc/

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 12:13 PM
Is that a cross between vagaries and vulgarities? :D

iowadoc77
04-15-2018, 01:28 PM
Or peculiarities?
It makes little to no sense. But I get it as a back collector for T206 McGraw cards. Some of them have very very few copies and if two people have to have them, they go for a ton. Many times, if only one person wanted the card it would go for a fraction of the price. Those prices on the 1951 All Stars make absolutely no sense to me, but I don’t collect them so that’s understandable. That’s one of the great things about these auctions. I see a lot of things I haven’t seen before.

barrysloate
04-15-2018, 02:08 PM
And what's the deal with the Green Cobbs? I thought I might spring for one since there are a few nice lower grade examples. On the third day a few already have 30-35 bids and are deep into four figures, and these are a 2 and a 2.5. Is this market real, or is someone manipulating it? I mean folks, this just isn't a rare card. What are there, like two or three thousand of them out there? I call foul.

oldjudge
04-15-2018, 02:41 PM
Barry-buy what is overlooked, not what is hot. Is there a more overhyped T206 than the green Cobb?

philliesphan
04-15-2018, 02:43 PM
I guess it just surprises me that the Roberts card sells for 10 times that of a huge Phillies rarity of the same era like a Lummis Peanut Butter Richie Ashburn card. Of course, it could be the aesthetics of the Topps All-Stars card that makes it a $60,000 item. ;)


Eddie, I internalize this with the "Honus Wagner" theory. The T206 Honus Wagner is neither the most scarce in supply nor the most aesthetically pleasing Honus Wagner card. However, it is nearly orders of magnitude more in demand than other Wagners, thus the six figure price tags for deplorable examples.

It's all about Supply and Demand. I can name a handful of collectors whose entire collecting focus is Topps cards from 1951 through the modern era (wherever you'd like to define that cutoff). The Stanky, Roberts and Konstanty cards have been known, reported on and discussed throughout the hobby for many decades, thus increasing their sex appeal.

You're absolutely right about the Lummis Peanut Butter Ashburn card. However, it's a curious use case: 1) Some collectors eschew the set because they look identical to the Sealtest, but for the card backs 2) They're so rare to find, set "completion" is a fairy tale for all but a handful of collectors and 3) there are many other Ashburn cards that are much more plentiful, but cost must more $$$ because of the many collectors who want the card.

If the Ashburn Lummis ever becomes a hot commodity worth $60k, I'll be the first to sell :) I've only ever seen a single example - and was happy to purchase it a number of years ago

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 02:45 PM
:DBarry-buy what is overlooked, not what is hot. Is there a more overhyped T206 than the green Cobb?

The Magee/Magie error. Who cares? :D

iowadoc77
04-15-2018, 02:47 PM
Barry-buy what is overlooked, not what is hot. Is there a more overhyped T206 than the green Cobb?

True. True. But it is so easy to go after what is hot because you feel like if it is that hot you have to have one. I have been guilty of this several times. Never seem to notice until after I have purchased for too much.

barrysloate
04-15-2018, 02:51 PM
I agree Jay. I think it is also a case of panic buying, that if I don't buy one today it will just cost more tomorrow. As such, I will live without a Green Cobb. I can't tell you how many dozens of them I had in my early years in the hobby, so the appeal just isn't there at this price point.

sflayank
04-15-2018, 02:51 PM
am i missing something here
ive seen 8 or 10 lummis ashburns which appear every year
there are only 2 or 3 of each current all stars which appear once a decade or more
rarity for the currents is greater and the demand is greater
therefore the price is greater

ricktmd
04-15-2018, 02:59 PM
And what's the deal with the Green Cobbs? I thought I might spring for one since there are a few nice lower grade examples. On the third day a few already have 30-35 bids and are deep into four figures, and these are a 2 and a 2.5. Is this market real, or is someone manipulating it? I mean folks, this just isn't a rare card. What are there, like two or three thousand of them out there? I call foul.

To Barry's point here. The Green Cobb and Bat On have nearly the same population on the PSA pop report. Two factors here . One is the popularity of the Green Cobb. Just a typical supply and demand curve. While no more rare than Bat On the popularity (demand) has increased the value. Second and more to Barry's point is several people are buying the Green Cobb's paying what they have to and then holding/hording or reselling at a substantial profit . There were dealers at the 2017 National with as many as 20 Green Cobb's who admit to buying all the Green Cobb's they can find. All Cobb T206's are up big though. I purchased a Red Portrait in a 2.5 with a PB back 2 years ago for 800.00. Now a PSA 2.5 goes for 2k or more

Snapolit1
04-15-2018, 03:12 PM
To Barry's point here. The Green Cobb and Bat On have nearly the same population on the PSA pop report. Two factors here . One is the popularity of the Green Cobb. Just a typical supply and demand curve. While no more rare than Bat On the popularity (demand) has increased the value. Second and more to Barry's point is several people are buying the Green Cobb's paying what they have to and then holding/hording or reselling at a substantial profit . There were dealers at the 2017 National with as many as 20 Green Cobb's who admit to buying all the Green Cobb's they can find. All Cobb T206's are up big though. I purchased a Red Portrait in a 2.5 with a PB back 2 years ago for 800.00. Now a PSA 2.5 goes for 2k or more

I guess like the 52 Mantles, there is a nice supply of them and good demand so is it's a great card to build a market around. Hard to get excited about a one of seven card that no one ever sees if your goal is a quick buck.

And what's with the photo of Ruth and his Dad behind the bar? Was there a law passed somewhere that every major auction now has to have one of these. The first 4 or 5 times I saw one was kind of interesting but now just seems like a hot potato people buy and quickly pass to someone else.

philliesphan
04-15-2018, 03:18 PM
ive seen 8 or 10 lummis ashburns which appear every year

No you haven't, Larry. There have been less than two Lummis Ashburn's to trade publicly over the last decade. You are probably thinking of the Sealtest Ashburn - which is a sticker, not a card, a slew of which found their way to market over the past few years.

I am agreeing with you that the demand is (much, much) greater for the Currents than the Lummis. You are perhaps current that the Lummis are slightly more plentiful than the Current - but only slightly. I'd argue that fewer than fifteen examples exist of some of the Lummis Phillies

Bored5000
04-15-2018, 03:36 PM
Eddie, I internalize this with the "Honus Wagner" theory. The T206 Honus Wagner is neither the most scarce in supply nor the most aesthetically pleasing Honus Wagner card. However, it is nearly orders of magnitude more in demand than other Wagners, thus the six figure price tags for deplorable examples.

It's all about Supply and Demand. I can name a handful of collectors whose entire collecting focus is Topps cards from 1951 through the modern era (wherever you'd like to define that cutoff). The Stanky, Roberts and Konstanty cards have been known, reported on and discussed throughout the hobby for many decades, thus increasing their sex appeal.

You're absolutely right about the Lummis Peanut Butter Ashburn card. However, it's a curious use case: 1) Some collectors eschew the set because they look identical to the Sealtest, but for the card backs 2) They're so rare to find, set "completion" is a fairy tale for all but a handful of collectors and 3) there are many other Ashburn cards that are much more plentiful, but cost must more $$$ because of the many collectors who want the card.

If the Ashburn Lummis ever becomes a hot commodity worth $60k, I'll be the first to sell :) I've only ever seen a single example - and was happy to purchase it a number of years ago

Thanks for the thoughtful post, Marc. If the Lummis Ashburn card would ever climb to $62,000, I would hope that a Puddinhead Jones card from the set would at least hit low five figures the way Stanky and Konstanty Topps All-Star cards have. ;) I bought my Jones card on eBay from John Rumirez; he wrote me that he has been working on the set for 30 years and only has nine of the 12 Lummis Peanut Butter cards.

I know there is also another member on this board who has a Lummis Ashburn card.

sflayank
04-15-2018, 03:48 PM
delete

barrysloate
04-15-2018, 05:10 PM
To Barry's point here. The Green Cobb and Bat On have nearly the same population on the PSA pop report. Two factors here . One is the popularity of the Green Cobb. Just a typical supply and demand curve. While no more rare than Bat On the popularity (demand) has increased the value. Second and more to Barry's point is several people are buying the Green Cobb's paying what they have to and then holding/hording or reselling at a substantial profit . There were dealers at the 2017 National with as many as 20 Green Cobb's who admit to buying all the Green Cobb's they can find. All Cobb T206's are up big though. I purchased a Red Portrait in a 2.5 with a PB back 2 years ago for 800.00. Now a PSA 2.5 goes for 2k or more

Thanks Rick. So if many people are hoarding Green Cobbs then that creates an artificial price point. No need for me to get caught up in it. There are plenty of other great cards to buy that are not in such great demand.

oldjudge
04-15-2018, 05:36 PM
Just don't start vacuuming up 19th Century. The last thing we need is a new whale.

mechanicalman
04-15-2018, 06:29 PM
Thanks Rick. So if many people are hoarding Green Cobbs then that creates an artificial price point. No need for me to get caught up in it. There are plenty of other great cards to buy that are not in such great demand.

I don’t think your point jives with Rick’s. He said that people are buying a bunch of Green Cobbs and then selling them for substantial profit. So how is “hoarding” creating an artificial “price point” if the hoarders are selling at a higher price?

Republicaninmass
04-15-2018, 06:31 PM
The greater fool theory

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 06:36 PM
I don’t think your point jives with Rick’s. He said that people are buying a bunch of Green Cobbs and then selling them for substantial profit. So how is “hoarding” creating an artificial “price point” if the hoarders are selling at a higher price?

Rick said holding/hoarding OR reselling. In other words they are depressing the available supply and trickling them out at an inflated price.

mechanicalman
04-15-2018, 06:46 PM
Rick said holding/hoarding OR reselling. In other words they are depressing the available supply and trickling them out at an inflated price.

Peter, it was mentioned that there are display cases of 20+ Green Cobbs offered at the National by these “hoarders.” And they’re selling. How is that trickling out supply?

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 06:47 PM
Peter, it was mentioned that there are display cases of 20+ Green Cobbs offered at the National by these “hoarders.” And they’re selling. How is is trickling our supply?

I am just trying to interpret Rick's words, I have no idea about the Green Cobb market. Though if they're all priced to the moon, then they might as well not be for sale at all, unless you're someone who is price inelastic and just has to have one.

PiratesWS1979
04-15-2018, 06:52 PM
Peter, it was mentioned that there are display cases of 20+ Green Cobbs offered at the National by these “hoarders.” And they’re selling. How is that trickling out supply?

Didn't a member show a pic a few months ago of a couple dozen green Cobb's he's hoarding?

barrysloate
04-15-2018, 06:56 PM
I don’t think your point jives with Rick’s. He said that people are buying a bunch of Green Cobbs and then selling them for substantial profit. So how is “hoarding” creating an artificial “price point” if the hoarders are selling at a higher price?

As Peter mentioned it is creating a price spiral. The hoarding causes greater demand and the price keeps going up. If dealers or collectors decide they no longer want to keep buying them, the price will go down. Cards that get very hot typically cool off. Can't say for sure, but right now it looks terribly overpriced.

mechanicalman
04-15-2018, 07:02 PM
I am just trying to interpret Rick's words, I have no idea about the Green Cobb market. Though if they're all priced to the moon, then they might as well not be for sale at all, unless you're someone who is price inelastic and just has to have one.

I am just trying to replay Rick’s words (hi Rick), not interpret them. At the end of the day, he’s right, there are tons of guys who buy cards at auction and then offer them up at the National at significant markups. A bunch of guys on this board do it. And it must work, because it keeps happening. Not for me as I’m purely a collector, but as a capitalist, I can’t begrudge someone else for doing it.

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 07:02 PM
As Peter mentioned it is creating a price spiral. The hoarding causes greater demand and the price keeps going up. If dealers or collectors decide they no longer want to keep buying them, the price will go down. Cards that get very hot typically cool off. Can't say for sure, but right now it looks terribly overpriced.

These things usually self correct. Ultimately the supply is too big to control although you can create some short to medium term dislocations.

mechanicalman
04-15-2018, 07:04 PM
Didn't a member show a pic a few months ago of a couple dozen green Cobb's he's hoarding?

Yeah, that’s mr rareback. Don’t know him personally, but I think he’s just generally buying a bunch of Cobbs. To own. For a long time. I don’t get the sense he’s trying to manipulate price as he’s said in posts that nothing is for sale. But he can speak for himself if he wishes.

Vintageclout
04-15-2018, 07:44 PM
PSA & SGC, combined, have Encapsulated over 1,100 T206 green portrait Cobbs. I don’t think anyone could possibly be buying enough of them to actually create a “hoarding” scenario. For the record, while the price of the green Cobb has drastically escalated, its only those somewhat scare “dead-centered” and rich green background examples that are realizing the super high price tags.

ullmandds
04-15-2018, 08:16 PM
Green Cobb is hot alright...nice looking 2-2.5 over 5K...already in REA?

RedsFan1941
04-15-2018, 08:17 PM
PSA & SGC, combined, have Encapsulated over 1,100 T206 green portrait Cobbs. I don’t think anyone could possibly be buying enough of them to actually create a “hoarding” scenario. For the record, while the price of the green Cobb has drastically escalated, its only those somewhat scare “dead-centered” and rich green background examples that are realizing the super high price tags.

excellent points. anyone who thinks that 20-30 cards of any t206 cobb is a "hoard" doesn't understand how many t206s exist.

ricktmd
04-15-2018, 08:24 PM
One dealer at the National mentioned that he buys all the Green Cobb's he can by bidding high. It is a very popular card with plenty of demand to start with. I definitely believe if two, or even one dealer with deep pockets speculated and bought all they could it impact the supply and create hungry buyers. A PSA Cobb PSA 2 being at 6k in only 2 days of bidding is hard to believe

Peter_Spaeth
04-15-2018, 08:32 PM
excellent points. anyone who thinks that 20-30 cards of any t206 cobb is a "hoard" doesn't understand how many t206s exist.

But in the short term, the "float" isn't that great, not that many are for sale, so it is possible for a few people to buy most of the ones that come on the market or at least most of the ones meeting certain criteria.

DeanH3
04-16-2018, 02:07 AM
The population of '52 topps mantles haven't hurt its value. Not saying a green Cobb is more iconic than a '52 Mick. However, the green Cobb is an iconic card. These prices might be the new normal. Who knows, maybe today's prices will be viewed as a bargain at some point.

joshuanip
04-16-2018, 07:54 AM
The population of '52 topps mantles haven't hurt its value. Not saying a green Cobb is more iconic than a '52 Mick. However, the green Cobb is an iconic card. These prices might be the new normal. Who knows, maybe today's prices will be viewed as a bargain at some point.

+1,

notwithstanding the rise past 2 years, I took the plunge and bought a green Cobb last month. Had to fill a hole in my collection, I’m sure there are more others like me... compared to what you see on the pop report.

oldjudge
04-16-2018, 09:49 AM
'52 Mantle is another hyped card. Think about it, to get hyped a card needs to be available, but not so much that you are tripping over it, and have a story. No sense hyping a card if you can't acquire a bunch of before the ad campaign begins.

Peter_Spaeth
04-16-2018, 09:52 AM
52 Mantles at least in midgrade seem to have come down back towards the earth. I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see 4s selling for 50 or even 60K for quite some time.

MattyC
04-16-2018, 10:01 AM
52 Mantles at least in midgrade seem to have come down back towards the earth. I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see 4s selling for 50 or even 60K for quite some time.

I'd take the wager that a dead-centered PSA 4 with a great image hits 50k— in the right setting, i.e., Heritage, REA, etc.

Peter_Spaeth
04-16-2018, 10:18 AM
I'd take the wager that a dead-centered PSA 4 with a great image hits 50k— in the right setting, i.e., Heritage, REA, etc.

If we bet, you can't bid. :D

MattyC
04-16-2018, 10:36 AM
If we bet, you can't bid. :D

Deal. I will be tapped for years anyway after all these Spring auctions end :)

iowadoc77
04-16-2018, 10:55 AM
Deal. I will be tapped for years anyway after all these Spring auctions end :)

Dang. Isn't that the truth. Amazing stuff all around

Vintageclout
04-16-2018, 10:57 AM
I'd take the wager that a dead-centered PSA 4 with a great image hits 50k— in the right setting, i.e., Heritage, REA, etc.

+1

T206Collector
04-16-2018, 11:31 AM
I'd take the wager that a dead-centered PSA 4 with a great image hits 50k— in the right setting, i.e., Heritage, REA, etc.

#this

I sold my crispy clean SGC 50 Green Cobb two years ago, and have been really sweating the rising prices. I was SHOCKED when it was resold by Goodwin just a couple of weeks ago for "only" $6,400. The reason -- CENTERING!

http://goodwinandco.com/1910_Piedmont_T206_350_Subjects_Factory_25_Ty_Cobb-LOT37476.aspx

Top to bottom centering like this never bothered me on a T206, but it obviously keeps this card out of the stratosphere!

Snapolit1
04-16-2018, 12:03 PM
It's the debate we always have. Why do some cards explode and other don't. Why the Eddie Plank card? Why Chief Bender? The card has the wow factor. I will never buy one and never own one yet every time I see the card I think "wow, that's a beautiful really really neat card." (Sanitized reaction of course. Actual reaction more like "damm, that's an 'effin great card.")

Rhotchkiss
04-16-2018, 12:25 PM
#this

I sold my crispy clean SGC 50 Green Cobb two years ago, and have been really sweating the rising prices. I was SHOCKED when it was resold by Goodwin just a couple of weeks ago for "only" $6,400. The reason -- CENTERING!

http://goodwinandco.com/1910_Piedmont_T206_350_Subjects_Factory_25_Ty_Cobb-LOT37476.aspx

Top to bottom centering like this never bothered me on a T206, but it obviously keeps this card out of the stratosphere!

In my opinion, the issue with this card is not as much the top-bottom OC, as it is the fact that his name is partially cut. The card is virtually miscut and I think you are smart to have sold it when you did. Minor top-bottom OC that does not effect the name does not bother me (see this Cobb by comparison -- sorry the pic sucks, the card is much prettier in person)

mechanicalman
04-16-2018, 12:49 PM
+1

I’m aware of at least one private sale in the last couple months that confirms this bet.

Snapolit1
04-17-2018, 07:09 AM
I love the smell of the REA catalog in the morning.

iowadoc77
04-17-2018, 08:01 AM
I love the smell of the REA catalog in the morning.

In the morning. In the afternoon. Pretty much anytime!

insidethewrapper
04-17-2018, 09:26 AM
I was told that everybody's mother threw out their cards and then I continue to receive auction catalogs filled with cards from the pre war years and the '50's. How did all these cards survive the WWI and WW2 wars and our mothers ? And in Mint condition !!! We all played with our cards. Who stored these cards and never played with them ?

Leon
04-17-2018, 09:52 AM
I was told that everybody's mother threw out their cards and then I continue to receive auction catalogs filled with cards from the pre war years and the '50's. How did all these cards survive the WWI and WW2 wars and our mothers ? And in Mint condition !!! We all played with our cards. Who stored these cards and never played with them ?

Probably not the buying group.
Got the catalog yesterday. There will be several hours of reading enjoyment over the next few weeks.

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Pat R
04-18-2018, 06:56 AM
My wife and I took a ride down to REA yesterday. We chatted with
Michael and Brian and we got to see the Cobb Broad Leaf and Conroy
Drum, Brian and the group at REA couldn't be more accommodating.

tennisguy
04-18-2018, 03:24 PM
Anyone else having trouble viewing the auction? Page won’t load?

guy3050
04-18-2018, 03:25 PM
Anyone else having trouble viewing the auction? Page won’t load?


Same problem for me

spacktrack
04-18-2018, 03:29 PM
The company that hosts our servers is currently experiencing a major outage. Fixing it and going back online is their primary concern right now. We are in constant contact with our auction hosting provider and the support team at the server company, and we are hopeful there will be a speedy resolution.

Brian

tennisguy
04-18-2018, 03:44 PM
The company that hosts our servers is currently experiencing a major outage. Fixing it and going back online is their primary concern right now. We are in constant contact with our auction hosting provider and the support team at the server company, and we are hopeful there will be a speedy resolution.

Brian

Thanks Brian.

iowadoc77
04-18-2018, 04:00 PM
Sorry to hear about problems with the site Brian, but glad to hear it is not just my computer!

spacktrack
04-18-2018, 04:08 PM
This is a good reminder for everyone to spend some quality time with the 720-page catalog that has hopefully arrived to most bidders by now. The digital catalog is also available to anyone who wants to browse on their computer:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/about/catalog.php

Brian

ejharrington
04-18-2018, 04:32 PM
Good news, now no one can outbid me!

esd10
04-18-2018, 04:54 PM
This auctions is what dreams are made of

spacktrack
04-18-2018, 05:08 PM
and we're back!

Thank you for your patience.

Brian

iowadoc77
04-18-2018, 05:13 PM
Thanks for letting us know.

Vintageclout
04-19-2018, 11:59 AM
I'd take the wager that a dead-centered PSA 4 with a great image hits 50k— in the right setting, i.e., Heritage, REA, etc.

Nicely centered SGC 5 ‘52 Topps Mantle now over $50K....and counting! You are spot on Matty!

iowadoc77
04-19-2018, 12:03 PM
Nicely centered SGC 5 ‘52 Topps Mantle now over $50K....and counting! You are spot on Matty!

Such a difficult card to find nicely centered in that mid grade area with only minor flaws. That is a real nice example.

Vintageclout
04-19-2018, 12:15 PM
Such a difficult card to find nicely centered in that mid grade area with only minor flaws. That is a real nice example.

+1

MVSNYC
04-19-2018, 12:59 PM
Which 52 MM are you guys referring to? the only well centered example I see is the PSA 9, all others are OC, or tilted.

Touch'EmAll
04-24-2018, 06:13 PM
Oh my, the current bids of decent REA stuff is already high, and going higher I am sure. A lot of what used to be in my budget isn't anymore, sigh. What do you all do, drop your standards from 5-6 grade and start looking at 2-4 grade stuff? Or bag it on the Iconic names and go for 2nd tier HOF players? Or save up to just buy 1, maybe 2 cards all year? Maybe start to downsize, sell a few to buy one? Decisions, decisions. Glad I picked up what I did 10-20 years ago, whew.

DeanH3
04-24-2018, 06:38 PM
What do you all do, drop your standards from 5-6 grade and start looking at 2-4 grade stuff?.

This is what I have been doing. Going after grades 1-3. I'm officially an armpit collector. Sigh.

T_Hamilton
04-25-2018, 07:51 AM
I’m with you...I’d rather have iconic cards of the greats in low grades vs. higher grades of second tier HOFers...

whiteymet
05-21-2018, 11:54 PM
Thanks for the thoughtful post, Marc. If the Lummis Ashburn card would ever climb to $62,000, I would hope that a Puddinhead Jones card from the set would at least hit low five figures the way Stanky and Konstanty Topps All-Star cards have. ;) I bought my Jones card on eBay from John Rumirez; he wrote me that he has been working on the set for 30 years and only has nine of the 12 Lummis Peanut Butter cards.

I know there is also another member on this board who has a Lummis Ashburn card.

Hey! I resemble that last remark!

Fred

hcv123
10-06-2018, 08:46 PM
Kahns sets and test issues
And bazookas are in next auction
There are 4 dice games a cloth sticker a 55 stamp 66 punchouts? 3d sheet..3d brooks....and lots of other stuff
Glendales..stahls felin franks
Come on guys....truth in advertising
You know the stuff is out of south florida
I think howard is just looking for my harmony milk clemente

So,

I do see (translate - drooling over) - all of the Kahn's, Where are the Bazooka boxes, 67 giant stand ups, 67-68 discs, 67 punchouts etc?

Howard