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Jcfowler6
03-19-2018, 11:58 AM
Iconic cards T206 Wagner & 1952 Topps Mantle are without question monster cards to our hobby.

I would be willing to bet that most non-collectors are at least familiar with these images. Many may even have some idea to the value of the cards.

My question. Besides these two cards what would you consider iconic cards to our hobby. Not thinking value is everything here. Some could are that the Billy Ripken “f face” is one.

What cards are the pillar of our hobby?

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Peter_Spaeth
03-19-2018, 12:01 PM
I am sure there are prior threads on this but off the top of my head
89 UD Griffey
Cobb red portrait
41 PB DiMaggio maybe

commishbob
03-19-2018, 12:15 PM
‘53 Satchel Paige
‘57 Brooks Robinson RC (my prejudices shown)

joshuanip
03-19-2018, 12:16 PM
Cracker Jack ty Cobb / joe jax
M101-5 Ruth rookie
33 Goudey Ruth #144
1933 Goudey lajoie

WWG
03-19-2018, 12:21 PM
1925 Exhibits Lou Gehrig

joshuanip
03-19-2018, 12:26 PM
I don’t think the Lou is there yet. I would vote for his 33 Goudey above the exhibit. Plane beauty of the card and popularity of the type.

MattyC
03-19-2018, 12:30 PM
In the PreWar space, I concur on the CJs of Shoeless and Cobb. After those two, for iconic, maybe the 14 CJ Matty.

Perhaps the 33 Goudey Ruth #53 and the other three Ruths from the set, even over the M101, in terms of "iconic" to the broadest swath of people.

Maybe the T206 Cobbs and D304 Cobb.

As Peter said, perhaps the 41PB Joe D.

I'm a Yankee and Gehrig fan but don't think he has any cards that compete with the above in the iconic category. The 33 Goudey over the 1925 Exhibit though, in terms of "iconic."

PostWar, the 51B and 56T Mantles are pillars to many. The popular RCs are all iconic to their respective decades, i.e., Rose, Ryan, and Reggie. Schmidt and Brett. Then come the 80s guys. Canseco RR was huge. 89 Griffey. 84D Mattingly was a craze to so many boys in that era. 85 Mcgwire USA. Certainly some other images really capture that halcyon time, lol. 86TT Bo Jackson.

commishbob
03-19-2018, 12:33 PM
FWIW....which isn’t much.... the Wikipedia entry for ‘baseball cards’ has displayed a ‘88 Goodwin Champions King Kelly, T206 Wagner, ‘33 Goudey Fox and a 1954 Bowman Vern Bickford. :)

samosa4u
03-19-2018, 12:51 PM
I don’t think the Lou is there yet.

I agree.

Touch'EmAll
03-19-2018, 12:59 PM
T206 Cobb red
1933 Ruth cards
1933 Gehrig
1941 Teddy
1941 Joe
1952 Topps Mantle
1968 Ryan
1986 Jordan

clydepepper
03-19-2018, 12:59 PM
I don’t think the Lou is there yet. I would vote for his 33 Goudey above the exhibit. Plane beauty of the card and popularity of the type.


I MO, the '34 Goudey Gehrigs (especially #37) rate above the '33 issues (I've never been a fan of the same picture being used twice in the same set).

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clydepepper
03-19-2018, 01:02 PM
...and this has always been high on my list:

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ullmandds
03-19-2018, 01:32 PM
...and this has always been high on my list:

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very tough card to find centered!

joshuanip
03-19-2018, 01:33 PM
I MO, the '34 Goudey Gehrigs (especially #37) rate above the '33 issues (I've never been a fan of the same picture being used twice in the same set).

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Hi Clyde,

I struggled between those myself given the 34 IMO looks better with the closeup and has a lower pop than the 33. I actually own a 34 and not the 33. But I honestly think the 33 is more popular in our hobby so it gets the nod between the two.

bauce
03-19-2018, 01:46 PM
How about those which showed up in TV shows and movies?
The prop (baseball card) used must have been known in general to the casual audience.

T206 Wildfire Schulte (move: "Diminished Capacity")
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (ST: DS9 - ep."In The Cards")
1952 Topps Andy Pafko (movie: "Cop Out")
1962 Topps Roger Maris (ST:TNG - ep. "The Most Toys" - the card used belonged to Gene Roddenberry. I would LOVE to have that card.)

Rookiemonster
03-19-2018, 01:56 PM
1951 Bowman Mantle

1951 Bowman Mays

1954 Topps Hank aaron

1948 leaf Jackie Robinson

Pretty iconic cards in my opinion. I didn’t see anyone mention these.

ullmandds
03-19-2018, 01:56 PM
In the Gehrig world...I believe the 34 goudy portrait to be the quintessential iconic gehrig card hands down.

Rhotchkiss
03-19-2018, 02:11 PM
Hands down, the 1914-15 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson (dont have pic) and this

MattyC
03-19-2018, 02:58 PM
I MO, the '34 Goudey Gehrigs (especially #37) rate above the '33 issues (I've never been a fan of the same picture being used twice in the same set).

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I love that yellow Gehrig. Hugely popular and yet somehow still underrated. Just like Lou himself :)

kailes2872
03-19-2018, 03:01 PM
How about those which showed up in TV shows and movies?
The prop (baseball card) used must have been known in general to the casual audience.

T206 Wildfire Schulte (move: "Diminished Capacity")
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (ST: DS9 - ep."In The Cards")
1952 Topps Andy Pafko (movie: "Cop Out")
1962 Topps Roger Maris (ST:TNG - ep. "The Most Toys" - the card used belonged to Gene Roddenberry. I would LOVE to have that card.)

'54 Aaron in Sandlot with the guy playing Babe Ruth that doesn't look like Babe Ruth at all...(There was also a '63 on the wall of Aaron, I believe, and the movie was supposed to take place in the summer of '62)

JeffPrice
03-19-2018, 04:25 PM
Aaron Rookie, 86-87 Fleer Jordan, Any 33 Goudey Ruth, UD Griffey, Namath Rookie, 1990 Score Bo Jackson (Black & White)

Throttlesteer
03-19-2018, 04:40 PM
A few more

N162 Anson
Just So Young
1914 BN Ruth
T206 Cobb/Cobb Back
T210 Jackson
1968 Ryan
1982 TT Ripken
1984 Donruss Mattingly
1985 Topps Oly Mcgwire

pokerplyr80
03-19-2018, 05:25 PM
Aside from those mentioned I'd add the e90-1 Jackson, 55 clemente, and 48 Paige. If the standard is those outside of the hobby would recognize the card I'd guess the 33 Ruth #144 and 86 fleer Jordan would be at the top of the list.

luciobar1980
03-19-2018, 08:25 PM
These 5 come to mind:

t206 Cobb (red is my favorite)
86 Jordan (of course)
53 Paige (great portrait)
58 Jim Brown
55 Koufax

edjs
03-19-2018, 08:50 PM
When I first read the title, I thought it was "ironic cards," and was very confused when reading the replies. Funny how one letter sure changes perspective.

As far as the question goes, I would say the Clemente is iconic.

AddieJoss
03-19-2018, 09:02 PM
How about those which showed up in TV shows and movies?
The prop (baseball card) used must have been known in general to the casual audience.

T206 Wildfire Schulte (move: "Diminished Capacity")
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (ST: DS9 - ep."In The Cards")
1952 Topps Andy Pafko (movie: "Cop Out")
1962 Topps Roger Maris (ST:TNG - ep. "The Most Toys" - the card used belonged to Gene Roddenberry. I would LOVE to have that card.)

Joe Nuxhall rookie card is in an episode of Married with Children.

pokerplyr80
03-19-2018, 11:22 PM
They briefly discuss and show a t206 Wagner in the accountant that Ben Affleck received as payment for a job.

The Mays in ds9 wasn't actually a real card, the back was blank. Kind of cool that it was part of a major story line though.

I remember an episode of family matters from when I was a kid and Urkel has a mint 52 Mantle he trades for something. I also remember him saying it was worth 25k at the time.

vintagerookies51
03-20-2018, 12:31 AM
As far as iconic in general, I would bet that a decent amount of people would recognize a ‘54 aaron (it was in the sandlot), maybe a ‘33 Goudey Ruth, ‘89 UD ken Griffey jr, Jordan rookie, and maybe a Red Cobb because of those finds in the news. Also maybe a Baltimore news Ruth

As far as iconic to us collectors that no one else probably knows about, T210 joe Jackson, Cracker Jack Cobb, ‘33 Goudey Lajoie etc.

TheBig6
03-20-2018, 01:02 AM
N172 Anson uniform

Big Six
03-20-2018, 04:26 PM
Would make my short list...

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esd10
03-20-2018, 04:40 PM
1869 peck & snyder cincinnati red stockings

Gobucsmagic74
03-20-2018, 05:15 PM
No one’s mentioned 52 Topps Jackie. Probably more iconic for non-collectors than the 48 Leaf

Neal
03-20-2018, 05:39 PM
Here are two

1989 Upper Deck Griffey
2011 Topps Update Trout

ejharrington
03-20-2018, 05:54 PM
1957 Topps Ted Kluszewski has always been iconic to me.

Jcfowler6
03-20-2018, 05:57 PM
‘53 Color Bowman Pee Wee Reese?



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bauce
03-20-2018, 07:29 PM
Joe Nuxhall rookie card is in an episode of Married with Children.

I was going to add that but I didn't know which episode it was. Jefferson just bent it right there - I cringe everytime I see that.

Bigshot69
03-20-2018, 08:34 PM
My fab 5:
1948 Leaf Ted Williams
1934 Goudey Lou Gehrig #37
1965 Topps Joe Namath
1953 Topps Mickey Mantle
1914-5 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson

Yoda
03-20-2018, 08:53 PM
How about the card of the Joe player, whose last name escapes me, beloved by Charley Brown from Peanuts.

the 'stache
03-20-2018, 11:07 PM
The T206 portrait Johnson would make my short list.

http://net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=636&pictureid=15396

In my opinion, the most beautiful card ever issued, and the greatest pitcher to ever play the game. If that doesn't make for an iconic card, I don't know what does.

EddiesDryGoods
03-21-2018, 11:05 AM
but I think it should!

guy3050
03-21-2018, 11:16 AM
The 5 cards that i was drawn to when I got into vintage cards in 1987 were

#1 1933 goudey Babe Ruth #144

#2 T206 Cobb Bat Off

#3 T205 Cobb

#4 T205 Cy Young

#5 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson

jbl79
03-21-2018, 12:10 PM
T206 Cobb Red
1933 Goudey Ruth (I prefer the #144)
1934 Goudey #37 Gehrig
1986 Fleer Jordan
1989 UD Griffey

tedzan
03-21-2018, 01:09 PM
In my opinion, any one (if not all) of these GOODWIN CHAMPIONS (N162) are the "elite". The artwork and the lithography on these cards is at its best.

Especially, the Mike "King" Kelly card. Note the stormy-looking clouds the artist painted behind Kelly (perhaps to match his "stormy personality").

And, did you know that Kelly is the subject of America's first "pop hit" record......the song, "Slide, Kelly, Slide".


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/N162starsBBxFBetc75x.jpg





Post WWII era

1949 LEAF baseball

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/1949LEAFJoeDiMaggio25.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/1949LeafPaige25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/1949LeafPaige25xb.jpg

Joe DiMaggio's last BB card (in a major issue). And, Satchell Paige's first BB card (in a major issue).



TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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ZenPop
03-21-2018, 03:13 PM
...how is this not on anybody's list:

http://bmwcards.usanethosting.com/img/full/1915_e145_2_cracker_jack_70_fred_clarke_fr.jpg

ZenPop
03-21-2018, 03:23 PM
...I think these are all iconic (in design)... absolutely stunning stuff... (yeah, I know the quality of the player is usually important in this discussion... but without the sheer beauty of the card illustration / design, what have you got?)

...also... my Giants flag is obviously flying... ha ha.

https://i.imgur.com/YFlKOix.jpg

CW
03-21-2018, 06:01 PM
How about the card of the Joe player, whose last name escapes me, beloved by Charley Brown from Peanuts.

Haha, that would be Joe Shlabotnik. :)

bauce
03-21-2018, 06:09 PM
Haha, that would be Joe Shlabotnik. :)

OMG, that happened to me! And from that day on I only collected singles instead of taking a lottery chance at packs.

Peter_Spaeth
03-21-2018, 08:03 PM
The 5 cards that i was drawn to when I got into vintage cards in 1987 were

#1 1933 goudey Babe Ruth #144

#2 T206 Cobb Bat Off

#3 T205 Cobb

#4 T205 Cy Young

#5 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson

For me, it was

Leaf DiMaggio
US Caramel Hornsby
Yellow Gehrig
Red Portrait and CJ Cobb
Portrait Young
T205 Mathewson
Green Ruth
49B Paige
CJ Wagner

Bored5000
03-22-2018, 12:57 AM
Maybe some people don't realize that it was a card, but the 1985 Nike promo card of Michael Jordan in the Jumpman pose would be right there with the Wagner T206 and 52T Mantle, IMO. The Jumpman logo that came from that card is ubiquitous.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-ROOKIE-RC-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-PWCC/142727735427?hash=item213b3c6883:g:DzcAAOSwOtVasB-O

rgpete
03-22-2018, 05:23 PM
Players from the Negro Leagues

w7imel
03-23-2018, 09:19 PM
What about my latest buy? I remember this one as a kid never seen one whole when I was a kid.

Rucc_31
03-24-2018, 01:04 AM
I think the 10 most iconic cards in baseball alone are (Not in order):

T206 Wagner
52T Mantle
T206 Cobb Red
54T Hank Aaron
55T Clemente
56T Mantle
33 Goudey Ruths (all)
89 Fleer Billy Ripken FF bat
89 UD Griffey
2011 Topps Update Trout (making its way up the list due to the generation of kids getting into the hobby)

the 'stache
03-24-2018, 04:07 AM
Why would the 2011 Topps Update of Trout be iconic? The 2009 Bowman Chrome certified auto is way, way, way more in demand. That's the card to have.

aconte
03-24-2018, 06:46 AM
Why would the 2011 Topps Update of Trout be iconic? The 2009 Bowman Chrome certified auto is way, way, way more in demand. That's the card to have.

Not positive on the why, but would agree it is the 2011 Topps Update over
the 2009 Bowman Chrome. The 2009 Bowman Chrome is the most expensive
and I guess true rookie card but 2011 is working its way up the list as the
next UD Griffey card for sure.

GaryPassamonte
03-24-2018, 06:46 AM
How about the one that started it all.

joshuanip
03-24-2018, 12:39 PM
If we are including non vintage.

Bill Ripken FF card!

bnorth
03-24-2018, 12:59 PM
If we are including non vintage.

Bill Ripken FF card!

Can you even consider yourself a collector if you don't own a copy?:D:D:D

bauce
03-24-2018, 01:00 PM
Can you even consider yourself a collector if you don't own a copy?:D:D:D

Oh maaaan..... *adds to wantlist*

tedzan
03-26-2018, 09:50 AM
I thought this thread needed a bump, so displayed here is my team card of the 1904 Buffalo Bisons.....Eastern League Champions.

Note....1904 was the year that there was no Major League World Series. The New York Giants refused to play Boston (A.L.)



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/1904BuffaloBisonsTeam50.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237816)
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Jcfowler6
03-26-2018, 11:54 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180326/b8af7160c6212eb459dedc57d36fe3eb.jpg

3 different versions.




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WWG
03-26-2018, 01:33 PM
Here's one from an old episode of the Simpsons.

RedsFan1941
03-26-2018, 04:30 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180326/b8af7160c6212eb459dedc57d36fe3eb.jpg

3 different versions.




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definitely iconic! still remember the excitement surrounding that!!!

irv
03-26-2018, 05:52 PM
I was going to add that but I didn't know which episode it was. Jefferson just bent it right there - I cringe everytime I see that.

I've had no luck finding that vid/episode doing a Google search. Was it a real 52 Topps Joe Nuxhall card?