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insidethewrapper
02-21-2018, 03:56 PM
The 1908 Dietsche Cobb comes with his name on the front printed in White Letters (Cobb). It appears his name is printed "in the shadow "and "out of the shadow" to the left. The team poster shows it "out of the shadow" ( hard to see in scan).
This card is very rare, but which of these 2 varieties is the rarest ??? Any opinions ? See attachment scans. Since the poster shows " out of shadow" I was thinking " in shadow " may be rarer.

BobC
02-21-2018, 04:32 PM
So is that the definitive way to determine a 1907 versus a 1908 Cobb postcard, the 1908 version has his name on the front and the 1907 version does not?

insidethewrapper
02-21-2018, 06:11 PM
All of the 1907 issues have no name on the front of the card. The 1908 issue has "White Name" on the front if also issued in 1907 and "black name " on the front if 1908 is their initial postcard in the set ( not issued in 1907) . To complicate things , some 1908 copyrights have no names on them.

BobC
02-21-2018, 07:31 PM
Wow, did not know that. Thanks for the valuable information.

h2oya311
02-22-2018, 09:19 AM
The truly definitive way is to look on the back where the copyright shows 1907 vs. 1908. ;)

But it is nice to know that there’s a way to tell by looking at the front. Nice job pointing out the two 1908 “name on front” variations. I hadn’t noticed the subtle difference in placement before.

BeanTown
02-22-2018, 01:17 PM
The truly definitive way is to look on the back where the copyright shows 1907 vs. 1908. ;)

But it is nice to know that there’s a way to tell by looking at the front. Nice job pointing out the two 1908 “name on front” variations. I hadn’t noticed the subtle difference in placement before.

+1

My guess is equally rare but not a price difference. Would like to know what Robert S thinks.

Baseball Rarities
05-25-2018, 12:37 PM
The truly definitive way is to look on the back where the copyright shows 1907 vs. 1908. ;)

But it is nice to know that there’s a way to tell by looking at the front. Nice job pointing out the two 1908 “name on front” variations. I hadn’t noticed the subtle difference in placement before.

Just to note, that there are also several players (Beckendorf, Delahanty, T. Jones, Moriary, Stanage and Works) issued in 1909 and these often come with a 1908 copyright on the back.

timn1
05-26-2018, 12:11 PM
As Kevin just mentioned, the players only issued in 1909 (not with the team until then) are seen with 1908 copyrights.

Also, I know of at least one case where a player thought only to be in the 1908 set can be found with a 1907 copyright (name in black lettering on the front). In this case the player bio on the back is also different from the standard 1908 card. This player was acquired by the Tigers in December 1907, and I think you could argue that the 1907 card is a rare but legitimate part of that year's set.

It's a confusing but fun series.

Tim

insidethewrapper
11-13-2018, 12:42 PM
I know that not many people have the 1908 Dietsche Cobb Batting, but if you do , is the name "Cobb", in the shadow or outside the shadow ? If you don't own but can lead me to any offered in auctions let me know, as I'm doing additional research on this set and I noticed this variation. thanks

mechanicalman
11-13-2018, 02:10 PM
Mine is out of the shadow, but in a glare from the scanner.

jeffmohler
05-08-2019, 10:07 PM
I finally found mine after about a year of looking:eek:

Has a 1908 copyright

insidethewrapper
05-09-2019, 05:05 PM
Thanks Jeffery, another one "outside the shadow". Still only "one inside the shadow". Post has been on here for 15 months with no others listed. Doesn't appear to be many 1908 Dietsche Cobb in either variation !!

Nonsensename1
05-09-2019, 11:48 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/16cd83bd0d48d539a12201e33ee40e0e.jpg

Mine is out of the shadows as well.


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BobbyVCP
05-10-2019, 04:02 AM
It seems looking through all the images on VCP that 90% or more of this card comes without the name COBB on it at all. So you would think that having this card with the COBB on it would carry a premium?

Baseball Rarities
05-10-2019, 08:18 AM
It seems looking through all the images on VCP that 90% or more of this card comes without the name COBB on it at all. So you would think that having this card with the COBB on it would carry a premium?

Most people want a “rookie” from 1907. Both versions with “COBB” printed on it are from 1908.

calvindog
05-10-2019, 08:18 AM
It seems looking through all the images on VCP that 90% or more of this card comes without the name COBB on it at all. So you would think that having this card with the COBB on it would carry a premium?

The cards with the Cobb writing are from a different year. There’s definitely a premium for these cards. Not very much though in my estimation.

calvindog
05-10-2019, 08:20 AM
Most people want a “rookie” from 1907. Both versions with “COBB” printed on it are from 1908.

And Kevin just explained why. The cards with the “Cobb” written on them are not the 1907 cards. So while rarer they are later. As for in the shadow or outside, I think it’s a distinction without much of any monetary difference.

insidethewrapper
05-11-2019, 11:35 AM
1907 Dietsche Cobb - Higher Supply- Higher Demand
1908 Dietsche Cobb - Lower Supply - Lower Demand

Note: What is a "Calvindog" ? What does this mean ?

Leon
05-14-2019, 09:39 AM
As a rookie collector it would seem a clear choice. Great info in this thread.

Most people want a “rookie” from 1907. Both versions with “COBB” printed on it are from 1908.