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Davino
01-27-2018, 05:00 AM
How would PSA, BGS, or SGC be able to identify if employees/executives from, say, Fleer, were to just print a ton of Jordan rookies that would be indistinguishable from the originals issued years earlier? Are the printing plates destroyed?

jason.1969
01-27-2018, 05:29 AM
Upper Deck actually did do this!

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bnorth
01-27-2018, 06:45 AM
Upper Deck actually did do this!

^^This^^ They done it with several products. I believe another company done it also because of slight cropping differences in their entire sets. Have no proof so won't name them.

Davino
01-27-2018, 07:08 AM
Wow, they did do this, huh? I suspected so...

jason.1969
01-27-2018, 07:22 AM
I can't say I have firsthand knowledge. Rather, it's what I read in the book "Card Sharks." The examples I remembered involved bonuses to execs and possibly some preferred dealers. I think it might have involved Griffey RC, Murphy error, and some previously rare Canadian hockey cases.

Now the reality is there were (seemingly) so many billions of Griffeys (Griffies?) that printing and giving each VP 500 more didn't fundamentally alter the global pop. Not sure about Murphy ERR.

Anyone have the real scoop here?

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Rookiemonster
01-27-2018, 10:08 AM
Now they give away the pruning plates so if they wanted to reprint them they would have to start all over again.

nebboy
01-27-2018, 12:02 PM
Remaking printing plates from a prepress ready electronic file is a simple, easy and cheap, it only takes less than an hour to run the C,M,Y,K and spot color plates needed.

steve B
01-27-2018, 04:39 PM
Remaking printing plates from a prepress ready electronic file is a simple, easy and cheap, it only takes less than an hour to run the C,M,Y,K and spot color plates needed.

Yep, it would be pretty easy today.

Back in the day, the shop I worked for saved the masks for a few years just in case someone wanted more of a particular item. When the Hunts tried to corner the market in silver, I got to disassemble a few hundred so the film could get sent to the recycler.

Upper deck also got caught faking their own products. I think Yugioh cards. Someone bought a box of repacked cards at retail and complained that the rare card was fake. The yugioh people went to Treat (the repacker) and demanded to know where they'd gotten them, and the answer was "from Upper deck, the manufacturer" You'd think they'd do better, but they made the same sort of mistakes as most other fakers wrong cropping, different or no copyright notice, logos in the wrong spot.....