The Old Judge Newsletter 1985-1994 - Lew Lipset

[Leon]

Lew Lipset put out The Old Judge Newsletter from 1985 -1994 (Jan.) In it he discussed all aspects of the hobby. There were 50 issues, with a few supplements, and as far as I can tell, no number 49. They are some fun reading.

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[trdcrdkid]

Yep, Lew pulled no punches in that newsletter, at a time when the hobby was undergoing a lot of changes. He's a member of this board and used to lurk, though I don't think he does that much any more.

[Fred]

Leon,

Do you have the full run of that publication?

[Leon]

Leon,

Do you have the full run of that publication?

I do, just picked it up (had a full run of copies previously.) Lew and I chatted about it very briefly this morning. He has always been a big help to me (and the hobby) in collecting endeavors.

[Fred]

Does that mean you have the complete run without any missing issues (1-50)? I think there's a 5A and 6A along with the regular 5 and 6.

I believe you indicated that 50 wasn't published so that would mean a run of 1-49. Do you have any dupes?

[Tao_Moko]

I still have mine from the eighties. I'm going to dig them up tonight.

[Rich Klein]

1985 such a different world. What we were thought were unacceptable conflicts of interest in those days today would be just shrugged aside.

The whole thing with SCD was because they, as a publication, tended to truly dislike the east coast and the Midwest was their strong hold.

Would the show in 1986 had been better than Arlington TX. I don't think so but I don't know but in terms of the concept of the National trying the Southwest was a better idea

Rich

[Jason]

I rteally enjoy seeing these old price lists and those look like they would be alot of fun to own. Never had the pleasure of talking to or dealing with Lew but he from what ever one says seems like a hobby legend.

[oldjudge]

Lew was a hobby giant during his time. Not only did he have encyclopedic knowledge of cards, he was a gifted writer who could present his research, and views, in an interesting way. All his content was self generated, unlike later publications which needed to rely on the kindness of others to do their research.

[gnaz01]

I have an entire run I will be putting up on the BST soon.....

[barrysloate]

I wrote a few articles for TOJ. It was the best of its kind while it lasted. I also have a complete run. And Leon is correct, there was no issue #49.

[darwinbulldog]

"At the same time [1980] a T3 set in excellent condition was sold for $5,000."

[jcmtiger]

Does that mean you have the complete run without any missing issues (1-50)? I think there's a 5A and 6A along with the regular 5 and 6.

I believe you indicated that 50 wasn't published so that would mean a run of 1-49. Do you have any dupes?

I have the complete run, there is an issue #50, January 1994.
I have issue 6A, I don't think there is an issue 5A. Issue 5 is spring 1986, issue 6 is Summer 1986. Issue 6a is Summer Supplement 1986 ,

There is no issue 49.


Joe

[botn]

There are supposed to be 51 different issues in the complete run.

[jcmtiger]

There are supposed to be 51 different issues in the complete run.

There are 50 issues, but that includes 6A, there is no issue 49 that I know of.

Joe.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

There is a 5A the lead story is on card restoration.

[trdcrdkid]

I think I might have 5A and 6A. I'll try to look when I get home.

[t206wagner]

5A is shown on page 2 of the card doctoring thread.

[Fred]

I have a 5A (and 6A).

Leon, if you ever speak to Lew again in the near future, can you please ask him if he ever ran into an Anson in Uniform (N172). It's listed in the price guide (your post) at $1K.

Will be willing to trade issues to make a complete run. I have the near run but I think I'm missing 2 or 3.

[trdcrdkid]

I e-mailed Lew and alerted him to this thread. Here is what he said, straight from the horse's mouth:

"A complete run of TOJ is 1-5, 5A, 6, 6A, 7-46, 47-8 (one issue) and 50.Thats 50 issues."

He also said that he did once own an Old Judge Anson in uniform, which he may have gotten from Wharton-Tyger, but he sold it years ago. Also, he still checks in on Net54 every day, though just as a lurker.

[botn]

I e-mailed Lew and alerted him to this thread. Here is what he said, straight from the horse's mouth:

"A complete run of TOJ is 1-5, 5A, 6, 6A, 7-46, 47-8 (one issue) and 50.Thats 50 issues."


Then he must have miscounted in his own auction listing or he was "counting" 47-48 as two issues? http://www.oldjudge.com/archive/20100401/publications/242/

[Yoda]

I have a 5A (and 6A).

Leon, if you ever speak to Lew again in the near future, can you please ask him if he ever ran into an Anson in Uniform (N172). It's listed in the price guide (your post) at $1K.

Will be willing to trade issues to make a complete run. I have the near run but I think I'm missing 2 or 3.

About 20 some odd years ago, Lew had an Anson in uniform in one of his auctions. I remember talking to him about it. Believe it might have fetched
around 50k or so. Of course, the card was reputedly Anson's head but another player's uniformed body.

[gnaz01]

Also, at issue 34 the paper style changed to, what looks and feels like, newspaper pulp.......

[Fred]

Of course, the card was reputedly Anson's head but another player's uniformed body.

Not reputedly, definitely. Abner Dalrymple's uniform. You wanna know how I know? Because the Bible told me so... see page 94 of the OJ book!

[trdcrdkid]

About 20 some odd years ago, Lew had an Anson in uniform in one of his auctions. I remember talking to him about it. Believe it might have fetched
around 50k or so. Of course, the card was reputedly Anson's head but another player's uniformed body.

Lew said that in the last issue of The Old Judge (January 1994), he gave a value of $18,000 for the OJ Anson in uniform. That's quite an increase from $1000 nine years earlier in the first issue of TOJ, yet not as high as it got a few years later. The auction you're thinking of was in 2001, and the Anson in uniform went for $66,503:

https://www.psacard.com/articles/articleview/3020/market-report-cap-anson-rarity-stuns-hobby-66-503-winning-bid

[jcmtiger]

My issue 38 does not have an issue number or date. Also, if anyone who has issue 5A wants to post it I would appreciate it.

Thanks Joe

[Leon]

I have a 5A (and 6A).

Leon, if you ever speak to Lew again in the near future, can you please ask him if he ever ran into an Anson in Uniform (N172). It's listed in the price guide (your post) at $1K.

Will be willing to trade issues to make a complete run. I have the near run but I think I'm missing 2 or 3.

No dupes it was only a full run.

Joe- I can post up 5a tomorrow but the restoration article is already posted here..

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250171

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[Fred]

I'd post something for 5A but I'd feel odd not doing without Lew's permission.
Besides, I'm horrible with adding graphics to forum.

5A content:

COVER
"The Restoration of Cards", "Opening Comments" and "National Registration News"

pages 2 and 3 are 20th Cent. Tobacco Price Guide content.

BACK
Continuation of "The Restoration of Cards" from the cover page.

One thing that really tripped me out was that 5A is on the back, Julie Vognar wrote a paragraph about her thoughts on altering cards. Holy crud , I haven't seen or heard of Julie in ages. Total trip.

[Yoda]

Lew said that in the last issue of The Old Judge (January 1994), he gave a value of $18,000 for the OJ Anson in uniform. That's quite an increase from $1000 nine years earlier in the first issue of TOJ, yet not as high as it got a few years later. The auction you're thinking of was in 2001, and the Anson in uniform went for $66,503:

https://www.psacard.com/articles/articleview/3020/market-report-cap-anson-rarity-stuns-hobby-66-503-winning-bid

Absolutely right.

[Leon]

I'd post something for 5A but I'd feel odd not doing without Lew's permission.
Besides, I'm horrible with adding graphics to forum.

5A content:

COVER
"The Restoration of Cards", "Opening Comments" and "National Registration News"

pages 2 and 3 are 20th Cent. Tobacco Price Guide content.

BACK
Continuation of "The Restoration of Cards" from the cover page.

One thing that really tripped me out was that 5A is on the back, Julie Vognar wrote a paragraph about her thoughts on altering cards. Holy crud , I haven't seen or heard of Julie in ages. Total trip.

I knew posting these would raise concerns and that is why I spoke with Lew before doing it. He is fine with us posting any of them, he told me. Yes, I thought Julie was an interesting write-in too as I subtly mentioned in the post when I made it, in the other thread.

[jcmtiger]

No dupes it was only a full run.

Joe- I can post up 5a tomorrow but the restoration article is already posted here..

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250171

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Thanks for the heads up Leon. I Wonder why I did not receive the 5A issue from Lew, have all the others.

Joe

[brianp-beme]

I Wonder why I did not receive the 5A issue from Lew, have all the others. Joe

Probably stuck in the cogs of the sorting machine at the post office...you might ask them to check again.

Brian

[darwinbulldog]

One thing that really tripped me out was that 5A is on the back, Julie Vognar wrote a paragraph about her thoughts on altering cards. Holy crud , I haven't seen or heard of Julie in ages. Total trip.

I had a nice email exchange with Julie about 5 years ago, prompted by happening to have read a book review on Amazon and realizing she was the one who had written it.

[Leon]

Here are a few pages from number 2...

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[rainier2004]

Thanks for posting this stuff Leon, its all pretty cool and gives a good understanding of the vibe of the hobby 30+ years ago.

[arcadekrazy]

Unopened Mono Cigarette package....Groovy

I have a full set of these newsletters; guess I should actually get around to reading them to see what other treasures lie therein

[Rich Klein]

Leon:

I wish you'd reprint page 2 so we can see the conclusion of the conflict of interest article. It would help to explain the different world of 1985-86 versus today

Rich