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unamuzd1
01-07-2018, 10:51 PM
I recently bought a t206 Charlie Rhodes from another board member that has a pretty cool ghost image/print offset on it. From the auction scan, I could see that Charlie had been replicated to the right of his main image, by about half a card length.

https://i.imgur.com/fLA612A.jpg?1

Once I got it home I scanned it and fiddled with the settings a bit, adjusting the gamma and contrast so I could try and see if that was also Charlie to the left.

https://i.imgur.com/gXSZPeQ.jpg?1

I'm pretty sure it isn't. The light/shadow pattern doesn't seem to match his face, and what looks like a central jersey seam is too far left compared to where his is.

What I think, having stared at it for a long time (and repeatedly paged through the images on t206museum...), is:

It's another portrait.
It's a player whose face is angled toward the left edge of the card, based on where the dark and light spaces are in the left-side ghost image of the face. The player is also "lit" from the right side of the card, again based on the pattern of light and dark.
It's someone who has a central jersey seam visible (you can see this in the left border beside Charlie's shoulder).
It's someone who probably has black text for the team name on his jersey (if that's part of a letter in the border just below the seam-line).

So the question becomes... who's haunting Charlie Rhodes? It's possible I'm wrong, and Charlie is haunting himself on both sides, but my experiments with cropping and moving elements around make me think that's unlikely.

Or, to put it differently: Who was directly to the left of Charlie Rhodes on this Piedmont 350 sheet?

I know we have some photoshop wizards who have been able to take apart layers of images in the past, but I'm not one of them! Any thoughts and help on this would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Pat R
01-08-2018, 06:50 AM
Two members that are really good at identifying these types of ghosts
haven't logged in or posted here in quite awhile but Jantz is really good
with these too.

It's not two Rhodes ghosts and the other ghost should be a print group
2 subject.

Jason
01-08-2018, 06:52 AM
Rhoades on the right. I def see a other subject to the left trying to match it now.

Possibly Atz.

Aquarian Sports Cards
01-08-2018, 06:53 AM
It's tough because the left ghost is so much fainter, but I do believe it is also Rhodes. I can line up the shadows of nose and lips and the hairline. I may do a graphic of this later to show it. The odd part is the forehead, but with everything else matching I still think it's Rhodes.

asoriano
01-08-2018, 07:10 AM
Butler? Arndt?

Pat R
01-08-2018, 07:17 AM
How about Brashear?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=192935&highlight=Rhodes

Webster
01-08-2018, 07:24 AM
Try Dick Rudolph.

That't the "O" on his shirt on the left...

Jantz
01-08-2018, 10:56 AM
I'm going with Rudolph as well.

As MOrrie posted, can see part of the "O" in the left border as well as the line just slightly above it that trails down along side the buttons on Rudolph's shirt.

Good eye Webster!

Thank you for the compliment Pat!

Definitely a cool card MOrrie!

Jantz

unamuzd1
01-08-2018, 05:14 PM
Net54 continues to amaze! I'd looked hard at Rudolph earlier, but managed to convince myself that was part of a "U" rather than an "O." When you overlay the ghost with Rudolph, though...

https://i.imgur.com/fiqOAbS.jpg

Which means that on at least one version of one Piedmont 350 sheet, these guys were neighbors. :)

https://i.imgur.com/OO8iGgo.jpg

Thanks, everyone!

Edited to add:

https://i.imgur.com/ahmyUzn.jpg