psa 1 grading help( poor VS poor-fair)

[g_vezina_c55]

why sometime when you see a psa graded card 1 the designation ir poor and sometime poor to fair ?

is it before the mid grade .5 ? and poor to fair is like the 1.5 now ?

[bobbyw8469]

why sometime when you see a psa graded card 1 the designation ir poor and sometime poor to fair ?

is it before the mid grade .5 ? and poor to fair is like the 1.5 now ?

I think it was an older style label between a certain time period. I guess it's still technically a '1', but I have one that could certainly be a 1.5.

[bobbyw8469]

https://imgsrv.sellersourcebook.com/users/73693/dsp_img252_1510141186.jpg

[glynparson]

I believe the cards designated poor to fair predate the .5 system.

[DeanH3]

I believe the cards designated poor to fair predate the .5 system.

This is my belief as well.

[g_vezina_c55]

so that equal the 1.5 of today ?

[DeanH3]

I would say it equals a 1 today. Of course it could be bumped to a 1.5 if resubmitted.

Edited to add some clarification. There are possible 1.5 grades in the poor-fair (1) grade because PSA did not have a 1.5 prior to implementing their .5 grades.

[g_vezina_c55]

i just send a e-mail to psa to ask question WHY some cards have a PR label and other PR-FR label.

[Bocabirdman]

Until a couple years ago, there were only whole number grades (1,2,3 etc.) PSA added the 1.5 grade then. Any card graded before then could not get a 1.5 because there WASN'T one.

[smallpaul2002]

There were only .5 grades added to the PSA grading system about about 2 1/2 years ago..So the card you are questioning, was likely graded before then...

[swarmee]

Yeah, it's currently a 1, but at the time was considered Poor to Fair. That means if you send it in for "review" they could bump it to a 1.5, or even a 2. Or they could leave it a 1. They will apply the current grading standards to the card.

[glynparson]

What i stated above is correct according to PSA. I knew it was but just verified to be sure. So an old grade 1 could either be poor or fair (if reevaluated)if its that important to you to find out if it deserves the .5 bump you need to pay psa to find out, the fee is dependent on the cards value.

[g_vezina_c55]

yeah i think its 1K for grade a mantle :)

[g_vezina_c55]

Just received answer from psa
The guy from psa said to me a psa 1 pr-fr now os = to psa 1.5

[bobbyw8469]

Just received answer from psa
The guy from psa said to me a psa 1 pr-fr now os = to psa 1.5

So I can turn my Babe Ruth in and get a 1.5?

[g_vezina_c55]

You need send for a review to know