Potential very interesting experiment with t206 Plank

[Rhotchkiss]

I have been watching (and bidding on) the two planks in REA, and just this morning I think I noticed something interesting - I am pretty sure that the T206 Plank SGC 60 in REA is the same exact card that was sold in the February 2017 Heritage Auction. Now here is the fun part: in the Heritage auction, the card was in a PSA 5 slab and it sold (according to VCP) for $114k. The card in REA, if the exact same, sits in an SGC 60 flip and has been stuck at $72k with buyer's premium for weeks (I know the auction is not over yet....).

If it is same card, so many questions, but few specifically: (1) is this the same exact card? (2) why would someone go from PSA to SGC if they were going to flip the thing 8 months later (personally I prefer SGC on old cards)? (3) how much do you think the same card will trade for in the SGC flip vs the PSA flip, and (4) if there ends up being a difference in price, do you think it's merely the flip, the auction house (heritage vs REA), the time of the year, less bidder factor, or something else?

I am on a phone and technologically stunted so can't include links or pics, but will try later, unless, someone is able to do so for me - the current plank SGC 60 in REA vs the plank PSA 5 that VCP says sold in February of 2017....

[Brian Weisner]

It’s not the same card... It’s been in an SGC holder the entire time. It sold for $106K in Rea in 2013.

Hope you are well Brian

[x2drich2000]

Personally, I don't think they are the same card. Below are my reasons along with very large scans of both cards.

on the front
- REA (SGC) copy, the blue background at about top of head level, bleeds slightly into the border on the left side, Heritage (PSA) copy stops short of the border line

- Heritage has a blue mark in upper right corner only on the border, REA copy does not.

on the back
- REA copy has small stains/issues in the upper right corner, just above "for", and just above "Corporal", none of these are present in the HA copy.

- Heritage has small brown circle stains/marks just below the bottom left design element and along right border slightly above the level of the factory designation. Neither of these are on the REA copy.


Fronts
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/item_45913_1.jpg
https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F0%2F0%2F3%2F15003337%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D



Backs
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/item_45913_2.jpg
https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F0%2F0%2F3%2F15003339%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D

[Rhotchkiss]

Ok, maybe it's not (I really thought they may be), but they are remarkably similar. Thanks guys. So that solves some of my questions, but it will be interesting to see the final prices on two very similar looking cards, in two different flips, turn out on final hammer prices. Seems to me, based on the PSA plank comp and the SGC comp Brian pointed out, there is some runway on the REA plank.

[iwantitiwinit]

Here's an interesting question on the REA Plank. As you can see from the white borders the card appears, in my opinion, to have borders that are less than average size on both the top and bottom of the card yet it appears to fit snugly within the sgc sized gasket. On high value cards does SGC cut custom gaskets? If they do does it mask the fact that certain cards are short because honestly that Plank looks short to me (and yes I know t206s can vary in length).

[Rhotchkiss]

i believe SGC does generally cut its inner pieces to fit the card type the case holds; I think I was told this sometime back and the purpose was presentation (better framing than standard casing), but I am sure there are folks here who know better than I.

[iwantitiwinit]

i believe SGC does generally cut its inner pieces to fit the card type the case holds; I think I was told this sometime back and the purpose was presentation (better framing than standard casing), but I am sure there are folks here who know better than I.


Right they cut the gasket for card type but in this case did they cut it for this specific card? For instance look at this card, I'd say the sum of the top and bottom borders are equal to or slightly more than the REA Plank yet there is a lot of extra room at the top of the gasket.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Roger-Bresnahan-Bat-SGC-40-3-Piedmont-350-Hall-of-Fame-Centered/152755712872?hash=item2390f33368:g:x48AAOSw-K9ZHe8O

[Bradyhill]

Look back at the PSA 6MC from REA a few years ago... I think maybe the same card.

[Brian Weisner]

Hey Brady,
You are correct... It is the same card as the PSA 6 MC that sold in REA 2012.

Be well Brian

[Luke]

Right they cut the gasket for card type but in this case did they cut it for this specific card? For instance look at this card, I'd say the sum of the top and bottom borders are equal to or slightly more than the REA Plank yet there is a lot of extra room at the top of the gasket.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Roger-Bresnahan-Bat-SGC-40-3-Piedmont-350-Hall-of-Fame-Centered/152755712872?hash=item2390f33368:g:x48AAOSw-K9ZHe8O

Yes, they will often cut the gasket specifically to fit and protect the card inside. Here's a good example:

[iwantitiwinit]

Yes, they will often cut the gasket specifically to fit and protect the card inside. Here's a good example:


Thanks Luke!!