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Leon
09-27-2017, 11:00 AM
Here will be a fun little contest and we'll see how long it takes to answer. In the current thread on the Sotheby's Copeland sale (great read btw) there is a glaring error. First one to post what it is wins. Good luck to all!!
There is 1 answer that will be obvious when pointed out.
ps....had to add a crazy picture for the heck of it.

**Also, the prize is going to change periodically and whomever guesses correct will win the prize at that time.

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KMayUSA6060
09-27-2017, 11:13 AM
Is it the measurement of the Wagner? It's stated as 1 7/16" by 2 5/8", which would be the standard T206 measurement. However, that Wagner was trimmed so it technically shouldn't measure properly.

Leon
09-27-2017, 11:19 AM
Is it the measurement of the Wagner? It's stated as 1 7/16" by 2 5/8", which would be the standard T206 measurement. However, that Wagner was trimmed so it technically shouldn't measure properly.

Well, that is not the glaring mistake looked for. It is more obvious. Thanks for guessing. Also, the prize is going to change periodically and whomever guesses correct will win the prize at that time.

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 12:00 PM
T206 Honus Wagner is described as "the rarest and most coveted card in existence."

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:05 PM
T206 Honus Wagner is described as "the rarest and most coveted card in existence."

debateable but not it..(could arguably be the most coveted)....what I am looking for is definitive....and was shown to me this morning....

clydepepper
09-27-2017, 12:13 PM
is it 'Nodgrass' error? - I do not recall hearing of that one before.



Got it...I think...


Post 1990 Tobacco Baseball Issues, lots 184-238.

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:15 PM
is it 'Nodgrass' error? - I do not recall hearing of that one before.

No not that.....I think this is going to be difficult and possibly impossible upon further review. :( But we will see....

t206wagner
09-27-2017, 12:17 PM
The Wagner was not the first card graded by PSA?

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:19 PM
The Wagner was not the first card graded by PSA?

Not the correct answer. I thought about closing the contest but went ahead and opened it back up.....

sterlingfox
09-27-2017, 12:19 PM
"This included the Wagner, which Copeland bought from Mastro in 1988 for $110,000..."

This happened in 1987, not 1988.

sam majors
09-27-2017, 12:19 PM
Wasn't Lelands around then? They could have handled it.

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:20 PM
"This included the Wagner, which Copeland bought from Mastro in 1988 for $110,000..."

This happened in 1987, not 1988.

Not the correct answer......however, the answer does have to do with a card!!

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:22 PM
is it 'Nodgrass' error? - I do not recall hearing of that one before.



Got it...I think...


Post 1990 Tobacco Baseball Issues, lots 184-238.

Not the answer(s).....

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:26 PM
Wasn't Lelands around then? They could have handled it. not the answer....

clydepepper
09-27-2017, 12:26 PM
Not the answer(s).....

...more glaring than that, huh?


I here bye label myself as stupid :eek:...in this instance.

nat
09-27-2017, 12:33 PM
It says that the T206 set has 520 cards, missing only 3 (which were sold individually), when the set actually has 524 cards?

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:34 PM
It says that the T206 set has 520 cards, missing only 3 (which were sold individually), when the set actually has 524 cards?

sorry, not the answer looked for.....

I will give a hint in a little while if no one gets it. It really is a good one....

frankbmd
09-27-2017, 12:37 PM
Wagner circa 1910

wouldn't 1909 be more accurate for the 150 series?

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:39 PM
Wagner circa 1910

wouldn't 1909 be more accurate for the 150 series?

maybe but not the glaring answer I am looking for....

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 12:40 PM
You can't get much more circa 1910 than 1909.

frankbmd
09-27-2017, 12:42 PM
maybe but not the glaring answer I am looking for....

You can't get much more circa 1910 than 1909.

Well, it was glaring to me.:D:D

edjs
09-27-2017, 12:44 PM
Is it the full set of 520 cards missing only the "big 3?' By the time of this auction, the Doyle error I guess was collector knowledge.

edjs
09-27-2017, 12:45 PM
Ooops, I missed Nat's answer, carry on.

ValKehl
09-27-2017, 12:45 PM
Leon, I doubt this is the "glaring error" you are looking for, but the T213 Coupon cards with the "16 for 10 cts." back were issued in 1919, not 1914 as stated by Sotheby's. Do I receive a consolation prize?

x2drich2000
09-27-2017, 12:49 PM
How about the T213-2 cobb "a vertical printer's crease is common"? I don't recall seeing many coupons with a vertical crease like the e105s

Aquarian Sports Cards
09-27-2017, 12:49 PM
Leon, I doubt this is the "glaring error" you are looking for, but the T213 Coupon cards with the "16 for 10 cts." back were issued in 1919, not 1914 as stated by Sotheby's. Do I receive a consolation prize?

Yup, a Mike Mamula autographed 8 x 10

ValKehl
09-27-2017, 12:50 PM
Leon, I believe I now see the "glaring error." The pics of many of the cards are identified by an incorrect ACC number!

Whoops, my bad! These are lot numbers, not ACC numbers. A perfect example of an old man's brain freeze!

ValKehl
09-27-2017, 12:51 PM
Yup, a Mike Mamula autographed 8 x 10

Scott, this is too funny!! Hope Joe D. reads your post!

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:51 PM
Yup, a Mike Mamula autographed 8 x 10

Actually, only a picture of his brother.

None of the answers are correct so far so maybe it isn't that glaring? But it could be chatter fodder when found out.

ullmandds
09-27-2017, 12:53 PM
lorillard cards from 1886?

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:54 PM
lorillard cards from 1886?

not what I am looking for....
..hint, this could be nefarious....

edjs
09-27-2017, 12:54 PM
How about 1888 Kalamazoo Bats, not 1887?

Leon
09-27-2017, 12:55 PM
How about 1888 Kalamazoo Bats, not 1887?

Not it...and the more hints I give the lower the prize ... :eek:

sfmays24
09-27-2017, 01:03 PM
Under Order of Sale

Post 1990 Tobacco Baseball Issues, Lots 184-238

Aquarian Sports Cards
09-27-2017, 01:05 PM
Under Order of Sale

Post 1990 Tobacco Baseball Issues, Lots 184-238

that's gotta be it

Leon
09-27-2017, 01:06 PM
Under Order of Sale

Post 1990 Tobacco Baseball Issues, Lots 184-238

Not it... and instead of always posting in this thread it will be monitored and updated. If the winner isn't declared the contest is going. And of course if someone guesses the same as someone else the first guess wins. :)

remember the last hint......

frankbmd
09-27-2017, 01:08 PM
Not it...and the more hints I give the lower the prize ... :eek:

With the glare seemingly decreasing, the prize should increase with each incorrect guess.;)

Leon
09-27-2017, 01:11 PM
With the glare seemingly decreasing, the prize should increase with each incorrect guess.;)

It has to do with a famous card.....

ullmandds
09-27-2017, 01:14 PM
bb card collecting is the most popular hobby in the world????

Leon
09-27-2017, 01:15 PM
bb card collecting is the most popular hobby in the world????

who said anything about popular?

t206wagner
09-27-2017, 01:17 PM
Mastro sold the card in 1987 not 1988.

Leon
09-27-2017, 01:18 PM
Mastro sold the card in 1987 not 1988.

Close but no banana. Your id is quite close too....

frankbmd
09-27-2017, 01:25 PM
I know the answer, but am waiting for the prize to drop to $0.77.

x2drich2000
09-27-2017, 01:27 PM
On the Wagner, the description lists Pittsburgh, but the card is Pittsburg?

fduran27
09-27-2017, 01:32 PM
is it the comment that states he did not approve of smoking and that is why the cards were pulled? From what i understand, he did not want to have children have to buy tobacco products to get his card.

CTDean
09-27-2017, 01:35 PM
T206 Wagner has a yellow background on the cover

ullmandds
09-27-2017, 01:43 PM
I know the answer, but am waiting for the prize to drop to $0.77.

right! trying to get into leon's head as to what is obvious...is not obvious at all!

frankbmd
09-27-2017, 01:45 PM
right! trying to get into leon's head as to what is obvious...is not obvious at all!

Pete, can't get into Leon's head. The door is not big enough. (Hi, Leon)

nat
09-27-2017, 01:45 PM
If repeat guesses aren't allowed ignore this, but we're not making much progress even when we know which listing it's about. T206 museum says that there are three Piedmont Wagners, not two? I mean, that's not a glaring mistake, but apparently neither is whatever Leon noticed.

Cliff Bowman
09-27-2017, 01:53 PM
Is it the measurement of the Wagner? It's stated as 1 7/16" by 2 5/8", which would be the standard T206 measurement. However, that Wagner was trimmed so it technically shouldn't measure properly.

If you are referring to the Gretzky/McNall T206 Honus Wagner, it's always been my understanding that the card measures correctly, Mastro used a knife to cut off the excess sides of an oversized T206 Wagner to greatly improve the condition and to bring it to the same size as a normal T206.

DVCARDS
09-27-2017, 02:11 PM
Cover has St Louis Browns Champions of the World medal. Dont think they ever won

MR RAREBACK
09-27-2017, 02:13 PM
the flag

Buythatcard
09-27-2017, 02:13 PM
Article mentions that there are only 2 known Wagner Piedmont 150 backs. I thought there were 3.

MrSeven
09-27-2017, 02:15 PM
Did Wagner ever request withdrawal of his card? I thought he never authorized/refused the use of his image in the first part.

bn2cardz
09-27-2017, 02:17 PM
Is it that it sold for $110,000, yet 3-4 years later the estimate in the catalog was $125,000-$150,000, then sold for $451k?

bn2cardz
09-27-2017, 02:19 PM
cover has st louis browns champions of the world medal. Dont think they ever won

1886

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 02:29 PM
The scan of the back of the Wagner is some other Piedmont 150 card, not actually the back of the Wagner they were selling (which is trimmed but not miscut).

Leon
09-27-2017, 02:38 PM
The scan of the back of the Wagner is some other Piedmont 150 card, not actually the back of the Wagner they were selling (which is trimmed but not miscut).

winner...Please PM me...

bn2cardz
09-27-2017, 02:41 PM
The scan of the back of the Wagner is some other Piedmont 150 card, not actually the back of the Wagner they were selling (which is trimmed but not miscut).

winner...Please PM me...

I was wondering about this, but couldn't find any pictures of the back of the Gretzky Wagner to confirm. For this reason I didn't think it was glaring.

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 02:45 PM
Found it here:

https://www.psacard.com/articles/articleview/4906/finest-known-t206-honus-wagner-baseball-card-sells-record-2-35-million

Leon
09-27-2017, 02:54 PM
I was wondering about this, but couldn't find any pictures of the back of the Gretzky Wagner to confirm. For this reason I didn't think it was glaring.

It was an enigma wrapped in a bologna sandwich. The real question is why the different back?
(as this was pointed out to me by an interested 3rd party today)

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GasHouseGang
09-27-2017, 04:56 PM
Maybe it got rebacked before it was graded by PSA!:D

ValKehl
09-27-2017, 05:02 PM
bb card collecting is the most popular hobby in the world????

Pete, are you suggesting that it's not? If so, damn, how depressing! :D

clydepepper
09-27-2017, 08:56 PM
Leon

I still say listing any Tobacco Issues in the hobby as 'post 1990' is pretty darn glaring!


Could you just send me the 77 cents?

Thanks - I know you'll do the right thing...