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Reggiejackson563
09-26-2017, 07:58 PM
How high can these Ty cobb green backs go. $16000a PSA 4 Goodwin & company Wow

MR RAREBACK
09-26-2017, 08:10 PM
30,000

calvindog
09-26-2017, 08:44 PM
At least $30,000. Imagine what a miscut, one of a kind version would go for?

One. Million. Dollars.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3232/2909241061_b11f8c8777_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/5r5C1D)

ullmandds
09-26-2017, 08:58 PM
the one in goodwin has an ex-mt front

Reggiejackson563
09-26-2017, 09:00 PM
Now that is what you call a miscut..

Reggiejackson563
09-26-2017, 09:01 PM
Yea its nice really nice

CMIZ5290
09-26-2017, 09:10 PM
the one in goodwin has an ex-mt front

Goldin sold a 4 for $17,200 recently...

ullmandds
09-26-2017, 09:13 PM
Goldin sold a 4 for $17,200 recently...

that one also very nice...albeit kinda soft corners...very well centered and registered.

CMIZ5290
09-26-2017, 09:15 PM
that one also very nice...albeit kinda soft corners...very well centered and registered.

Yep, you're right Pete about the corners...

mrvster
09-26-2017, 09:23 PM
are going nuts! "poor man's" Wagner.....:D

all grades and conditions....

Jeff

that has always got my blood pumping! Iconic card.....sick 50/50 mc :eek:

congrats on that beauty!

some 4's present as 6 and some 6s present as 4's.....

still, they are continuing to rise.....I really don't see a slowdown yet

Pete....spot on!

Reggiejackson563
09-26-2017, 09:29 PM
So you think $30,000 for a PSA 4 is legit In the near future ??? So a psa 1 would be around $3500

Reggiejackson563
09-26-2017, 09:30 PM
$30,000 for a PSA 4 sounds legit in the near future ???

ullmandds
09-26-2017, 09:36 PM
So you think $30,000 for a PSA 4 is legit In the near future ??? So a psa 1 would be around $3500

no...i don't think! the recent run up has been great...it will not continue to double again in the near future.

Republicaninmass
09-26-2017, 09:37 PM
$30,000 for a PSA 4 sounds legit in the near future ???


Nice card...

Wait wrong thread

MR RAREBACK
09-26-2017, 09:37 PM
Psa 1 6400
Psa 2 10,000
psa 3 18,000
Psa 4 30,000
I think they will get to these prices before we see a slow down not sure how long it will take but don't think they will go down in price anytime soon. For nice looking cobbs

Rhotchkiss
09-26-2017, 09:57 PM
Psa 1 6400
Psa 2 10,000
psa 3 18,000
Psa 4 30,000
I think they will get to these prices before we see a slow down not sure how long it will take but don't think they will go down in price anytime soon. For nice looking cobbs

If that the case, I am a seller of my PSA 6 for $40k all day long....

DeanH3
09-26-2017, 10:09 PM
I keep asking myself when will they slow down. However, look at what '52 topps mantles bring. Maybe green cobby's still have room to grow?

ullmandds
09-26-2017, 10:14 PM
I keep asking myself when will they slow down. However, look at what '52 topps mantles bring. Maybe green cobby's still have room to grow?

good point...how do the pops compare?

Reggiejackson563
09-26-2017, 10:28 PM
Wow Those are huge prices Mr. Rare back time will only tell and I hope you're on the money

ullmandds
09-26-2017, 10:46 PM
Wow Those are huge prices Mr. Rare back time will only tell and I hope you're on the money

so does he!!!

100backstroke
09-26-2017, 11:51 PM
What the population numbers don't tell - how many have been resubmits that boost the pops? Then how many have really nice centering. How many have nice registration. How many are crease free (minimum EX 5)? How many are we now really left with? Who knows, but not that many.

Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 12:16 AM
Well there's only 16 of the sweet Corporal 150/25 three 4s two 4.5s and two 5s The other 9 are lower

Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 12:17 AM
I'm only referring to that card because I have that card got it from goodwin & company last auction

DeanH3
09-27-2017, 12:53 AM
Pop numbers for the green cobby are tougher to determine due to SGC's pop report but my best combined guess is;

Green Cobb - 1252
'52 Mantle - 1955

What the population numbers don't tell - how many have been resubmits that boost the pops? Then how many have really nice centering. How many have nice registration. How many are crease free (minimum EX 5)? How many are we now really left with? Who knows, but not that many.

Really nice centering - check!
Nice registration - check!
Crease and wrinkle free - check! But not minimum EX 5 :(
Not as cool as Jeff's miscut - check!

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=19639http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=669&pictureid=19620

Sean
09-27-2017, 01:32 AM
There is a PSA 7 right now in Memory Lane. Let's guess what that will go for. I'm thinking $48K.

Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 01:49 AM
Memory lane PSA7 Greenback cobb $75000+

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 06:04 AM
$60,000 for the 7.

celoknob
09-27-2017, 07:27 AM
so does he!!!

Lol

3-2-count
09-27-2017, 10:27 AM
Who knows what the Memory Lane 7 will end at. The image/registration on this example is quite hideous though in my opinion.

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/memorylanecobb.jpg

MR RAREBACK
09-27-2017, 11:27 AM
I say the green Cobb psa 7 goes for 88,000

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 12:04 PM
Who knows what the Memory Lane 7 will end at. The image/registration on this example is quite hideous though in my opinion.

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/memorylanecobb.jpg

Yep, disgusting. Nobody else bid on it, okay?

rats60
09-27-2017, 12:37 PM
Who knows what the Memory Lane 7 will end at. The image/registration on this example is quite hideous though in my opinion.

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/memorylanecobb.jpg

But it is a rare 3D t206 Green Cobb.

mechanicalman
09-27-2017, 12:57 PM
I'm only referring to that card because I have that card got it from goodwin & company last auction

So I am understanding this, the thread you started by exclaiming a "Wow" in regards to the price of the $16K Cobb sold in Goodwin is the one you purchased? If so, I can't say I've seen that before on this board.

Either way, congrats on a nice card, and hopefully the price will continue to rise. (I think threads like this certainly can't hurt in that capacity.)

CardMD
09-27-2017, 12:58 PM
that one also very nice...albeit kinda soft corners...very well centered and registered.



I commissioned that Cobb. Was very surprised and happy with closing price! Thought I paid too much about two years ago. Finally didnít lose money on a sale. Centering...centering...centering.


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Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 01:30 PM
What is PSA waiting for this card has been selling strong in all grades but the smr guide price has not moved...

Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 01:33 PM
Haha You're right Mechanicalman I was just needing some reassurance that I didn't overpay

Bored5000
09-27-2017, 01:37 PM
What is PSA waiting for this card has been selling strong in all grades but the smr guide price has not moved...

I am looking to scoop up all the 1915 Cobb Cracker Jacks in PSA 1 for $800 that I can as well as 1915 Matty CJs for $225 and WaJo Cracker Jacks for $225 -- since that is what SMR says they go for. The minor Hall of Famers for $30 sure seem like a nice deal as well on the 1915 Cracker Jacks, according to SMR.

mechanicalman
09-27-2017, 01:55 PM
Haha You're right Mechanicalman I was just needing some reassurance that I didn't overpay

Ha! I admire your gusto. Earlier this summer I paid low five figures for a PSA 3, and I was dreading someone would start a thread about it (they did.) I personally believe nice examples have upside, so I think you did well.

Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 02:17 PM
Thanks

Reggiejackson563
09-27-2017, 02:56 PM
Good luck with that..

calvindog
09-27-2017, 03:17 PM
What is PSA waiting for this card has been selling strong in all grades but the smr guide price has not moved...

Those bastards. They really hate the hobby. Agreed.

1952boyntoncollector
09-27-2017, 03:20 PM
I am looking to scoop up all the 1915 Cobb Cracker Jacks in PSA 1 for $800 that I can as well as 1915 Matty CJs for $225 and WaJo Cracker Jacks for $225 -- since that is what SMR says they go for. The minor Hall of Famers for $30 sure seem like a nice deal as well on the 1915 Cracker Jacks, according to SMR.

You laugh but when i was selling green cobbs on this site there were members on this forum quoting SMR prices in their counter offers. I kept saying that private sales were going for more but again SMR SMR..

Exhibitman
09-27-2017, 05:14 PM
Coincidentally (?) the cover story of the new SMR is on collecting Cobb.

orly57
09-27-2017, 06:22 PM
You laugh but when i was selling green cobbs on this site there were members on this forum quoting SMR prices in their counter offers. I kept saying that private sales were going for more but again SMR SMR..

And so began one young man's quest to preserve 1% of sales on the net54 BST.

botn
09-27-2017, 06:38 PM
You laugh but when i was selling green cobbs on this site there were members on this forum quoting SMR prices in their counter offers. I kept saying that private sales were going for more but again SMR SMR..

I get that BS several times a day through ebay. I respond to most of them the same way. If that is what SMR has the card for then go buy one from SMR. I have not looked at the pricing in an SMR for years. I just get it for the pictures!

darwinbulldog
09-27-2017, 10:06 PM
I read it for the articles.

David R
09-28-2017, 12:18 AM
I picked up this one many years ago for the price of a PSA 1. I don't have any other trimmed cards in my collection but I have been very happy with this one.

Reggiejackson563
09-28-2017, 12:44 AM
Yea thats nice even being trimmed .

Billy5858
09-28-2017, 05:15 AM
5 pages of comments equals bubble
Look where they ain't

100backstroke
09-28-2017, 10:39 AM
Pretty sure I have seen supposedly non-trimmed examples with less white boarder.

MVSNYC
09-28-2017, 10:55 AM
Who knows what the Memory Lane 7 will end at. The image/registration on this example is quite hideous though in my opinion.

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetwocount/threetwocount/websize/memorylanecobb.jpg

+1 Tony.

Not all Cobbs were created equal. Seems like 150 series examples are a bolder, deeper green...and crisper clarity, right?

Even the PSA 7 Cobb Bat Off in ML seems to have registration/clarity issues.

Sean
09-28-2017, 01:53 PM
+1 Tony.

Not all Cobbs were created equal. Seems like 150 series examples are a bolder, deeper green...and crisper clarity, right?


Yes. I've noticed the same thing regarding Planks: the 150 Series is a deeper blue.

ls7plus
09-28-2017, 04:01 PM
+1 Tony.

Not all Cobbs were created equal. Seems like 150 series examples are a bolder, deeper green...and crisper clarity, right?

Even the PSA 7 Cobb Bat Off in ML seems to have registration/clarity issues.

+1 to that. The registration/clarity issues would be a deal breaker for me.

Regards,

Larry

pencil1974
09-28-2017, 08:27 PM
I'll toss in my favorite 4 into the mix. :)

100backstroke
09-28-2017, 08:39 PM
Wow, nice!

Reggiejackson563
09-28-2017, 09:22 PM
Sgc 4 is nice

T206Collector
09-28-2017, 09:48 PM
5 pages of comments equals bubble
Look where they ain't

+1

Did a little research into market bubbles. This seems about right:


Behavioral finance theory attributes market bubbles to cognitive biases that lead to groupthink and herd behavior. Other theoretical explanations of market bubbles have suggested that they are intrinsic and contagious.

Emotional and cognitive biases seem to be the causes of bubbles, but often, when the phenomenon appears, pundits try to find a rationale, so as not to be against the crowd. Thus, sometimes, people will dismiss concerns about overpriced markets by citing a new economy where the old valuation rules may no longer apply. This type of thinking helps to further propagate the bubble whereby everyone is investing with the intent of finding a greater fool. Still, some analysts cite the wisdom of crowds and say that price movements really do reflect rational expectations of fundamental returns. Large traders become powerful enough to rock the boat, generating market bubbles.

pencil1974
09-28-2017, 11:07 PM
Thanks!

David R
09-29-2017, 03:55 AM
That 4 looks great - better than the 7 in the auction. If my trimmed Cobb were a Wagner it probably would have received an 8.

iwantitiwinit
09-29-2017, 06:23 AM
Here's the question in the nearer term (say within 2 yrs) will a comparably graded Green Cobb exceed a Magie error in value/sales price.

Paul S
09-29-2017, 08:57 AM
5 pages of comments equals bubble
Look where they ain't

If you go into your User CP and change the default posts-per-page to 80, the bubble is shorter (and so is the clicking) :)

Leon
10-01-2017, 02:27 PM
I personally think the market on Green Cobbs is a bit inflated. That means everyone thinking of getting one should get one now as they are probably about to take off :(.

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1952boyntoncollector
10-01-2017, 08:17 PM
I personally think the market on Green Cobbs is a bit inflated. That means everyone thinking of getting one should get one now as they are probably about to take off :(.

.

whoever bought that cobb for 16k just got it as I was contacted by PSA to remove it from my registry. Of course i wasnt the one that consigned it....i wonder how many times it changed hands. I did have the card for sale here on net54.....people kept quoting SMR to me..(you know who you guys are)

CMIZ5290
10-01-2017, 08:44 PM
whoever bought that cobb for 16k just got it as I was contacted by PSA to remove it from my registry. Of course i wasnt the one that consigned it....i wonder how many times it changed hands. I did have the card for sale here on net54.....people kept quoting SMR to me..(you know who you guys are)

OK....So what's your point Jake?

1952boyntoncollector
10-01-2017, 09:05 PM
OK....So what's your point Jake?

Sad to see for me. I didnt realize it was my card that got the records market high price until today. Not everyday you see that.. Good luck to the new buyer with it.

nameless
10-03-2017, 04:44 PM
Pretty beat up. Still 3.5k This just sold.

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Neal
10-04-2017, 10:06 AM
any thoughts on the M116 Cobb? Not to go off topic, but it is kinda a "poor mans" T206 portrait. Pop doesn't seem to be that high as well.

1952boyntoncollector
10-04-2017, 10:13 AM
Pretty beat up. Still 3.5k This just sold.


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Never trust BIN prices on ebay...its hard enough to trust regular auctions on ebay but at least you can see some bidding behaviors

Always a ton of psa 1-2.5 1933 ruths, t206 cobbs etc out there on ebay BINs..... no significant price jumps on those unlike the psa 4s +

nameless
10-04-2017, 10:36 AM
I hear ya about bin prices but I did see one end for 4700 the other day and Cobb had a crease in his head! A lot of bids as well.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171004/d2ddeb80df822ffaca0605c4d996f7ce.png

I have an SGC 40 I'm gonna move soon. Let's see what happens with a no reserve auction I guess. [emoji3]


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Reggiejackson563
10-04-2017, 01:33 PM
whoever bought that cobb for 16k just got it as I was contacted by PSA to remove it from my registry. Of course i wasnt the one that consigned it....i wonder how many times it changed hands. I did have the card for sale here on net54.....people kept quoting SMR to me..(you know who you guys are)

Hello i bought it and its super nice the card looks to be undergraded .

Aaron Seefeldt
10-04-2017, 01:45 PM
Hello i bought it and its super nice the card looks to be undergraded .

Congrats on the sweet pick up! It's a beauty

Reggiejackson563
10-04-2017, 02:54 PM
Congrats on the sweet pick up! It's a beauty

Thanks i wanted it i may have over paid but it had my name all over it .

Sean
10-04-2017, 03:50 PM
Thanks i wanted it i may have over paid but it had my name all over it .

When it comes to high end cards like this one, I think that you can never pay too much, only too soon. If the card isn't worth quite what you paid for it today, it soon will be. :)

bn2cardz
10-04-2017, 04:12 PM
at least $30,000. Imagine what a miscut, one of a kind version would go for?

One. Million. Dollars.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3232/2909241061_b11f8c8777_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/5r5c1d)

...$12,500

1952boyntoncollector
10-04-2017, 04:35 PM
Hello i bought it and its super nice the card looks to be undergraded .

If you get it re-graded higher then its undergraded for sure

pokerplyr80
10-04-2017, 07:03 PM
Sad to see for me. I didnt realize it was my card that got the records market high price until today. Not everyday you see that.. Good luck to the new buyer with it.

I'm in the same boat. Let mine go before the run up. Oh well. It was the best decision at the time with the information I had available.

Reggiejackson563
10-10-2017, 01:58 PM
Green cobb cant be stopped PSA 3 sells for $7100 PWCC

ullmandds
10-10-2017, 02:01 PM
Green cobb cant be stopped PSA 3 sells for $7100 PWCC

dunno...it is/was pwcc after all. rounded corners and all thats a strong price.

Reggiejackson563
10-10-2017, 02:54 PM
dunno...it is/was pwcc after all. rounded corners and all thats a strong price.

Right PWCC always gets Huge prices.

Sean
10-15-2017, 12:33 AM
There is a PSA 7 right now in Memory Lane. Let's guess what that will go for. I'm thinking $48K.

Last few hours of bidding and it's $44,000 with commission.

MVSNYC
10-15-2017, 07:35 AM
Memory Lane Cobbs-

Green Port 7- $67k
Red Port 7- $35k
Bat on 8- $66k
Bat off 7- $29k

Some incredible prices in the auction last night...The HOF T206's especially (mostly 7's & 8's), went for insane numbers.

Sean
10-15-2017, 07:40 AM
Two Mordecai Browns, an Evers and two Joe Tinkers, all PSA 8, each went over $20K. :eek: